Strictly Limits not selling out? (1 Viewer)

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I'm surprised the Panzer Meyer Command Halftrack and General Inspection are still available? I think both pieces are great, especially the halftrack. Is the customer base so small, that 1250 units of such nice pieces take so long to sell out?:confused:
 
Thats a great point. I have both of these pieces and I think that theyre great. My guess is that this is due to such a flood of new K&C pieces and new series that people are forced to be more selective. I dont really know if this is true for everyone but it is certainly the case for me. When I'm going to buy a new piece I find it even more difficult then before to decide.

Take Care

Chris McKenna
 
MCKENNA77 said:
Thats a great point. I have both of these pieces and I think that theyre great. My guess is that this is due to such a flood of new K&C pieces and new series that people are forced to be more selective. I dont really know if this is true for everyone but it is certainly the case for me. When I'm going to buy a new piece I find it even more difficult then before to decide.

Take Care

Chris McKenna
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I'm in the same boat.
 
I think cost could have some factor in the selling of the SL - when you get above $150 USD - people start to calculate more on the purchase IMO.
 
I think it's a combination of cost and amount made; the Winter Tiger sold for the same price but only 999 were made. What is the proper amount that should be made for a SL has been ceaselessly debated (if you do a search, you should be able to find these discussions). Many think 999 is the proper amount and some even think 500 is the right amount (as with the Limited Stug). Whatever the right number might be, 1,250 doesn't seem the right number for a quick sellout but does seem the right number for newer collectors to buy these items.
 
I would like to see all the SL go no higher than 999 being made.
 
For Me it's a combination, of cost, high volume, and quick release.
Even a lot of the dealers are starting to find it hard to keep up the new releases, and restock earlier items.
I'm working on a "working mans'" budget. Limited Eds. come first but then sometimes popular standard items sell out before I can raise the funds.
Then there's the short arms and deep sporan genetics!
 
A normal production run at double the price. Draw your own conclusions.
 
Combat said:
A normal production run at double the price. Draw your own conclusions.
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Combat,
Production numbers aside, you're still getting a fair deal for what you pay for. A vehicle plus 4-5 figures for $200 (WS77 and BBA015) sounds about right.
Justin
 
A better form of SL Items would be a production run 999 and keeping the cost down to less $150.

It would make it more economical to purchase and still have a budget to buy additional items in other ranges you want.

Stacking a SL Set with figures doesnt make it a better set - IMO.
 
Has it occurred to anyone that neither of the last couple of strictly limited sets (the Panzer Meyer Command Vehicle and General Inspection Sherman) really lend themselves to mutiple display purposes whereas most of the earlier limited editions (StuG IV, Winter Tiger, King Tiger, Char B Tank) had the potential for multiple vehicle diorama displays? I think this, factored in with the expense and larger production numbers explains the failure of these vehicles to sell out quickly.

I have been very vocal in criticizing Andy for calling a set with a production run of more than 999 strictly limited, but I think that the failure of these sets to sell out quickly might convince the dealers to more effectively lobby Andy for smaller limited production runs. However, if one of the upcoming Arnhem pieces, such as a para jeep, is a strictly limited, I suspect it will sell out instantly, sending just the opposite message. It this is true, the conclusion drawn might be that the popularity of the subject matter (i.e. Rommel sells out instantly, Panzer Meyer sits on the shelf) may play the biggest roll in determining whether a strictly limited set will sell.
 
Sometimes i think the figures work well as with the Winter Tiger,i love the figures in that set.I think often the number of figures can help to bring the subject to life,look at the new M12 Gun.It really looks like its swarming with activity.

Rob
 
Louis Badolato said:
Has it occurred to anyone that neither of the last couple of strictly limited sets (the Panzer Meyer Command Vehicle and General Inspection Sherman) really lend themselves to mutiple display purposes whereas most of the earlier limited editions (StuG IV, Winter Tiger, King Tiger, Char B Tank) had the potential for multiple vehicle diorama displays? I think this, factored in with the expense and larger production numbers explains the failure of these vehicles to sell out quickly.

I have been very vocal in criticizing Andy for calling a set with a production run of more than 999 strictly limited, but I think that the failure of these sets to sell out quickly might convince the dealers to more effectively lobby Andy for smaller limited production runs. However, if one of the upcoming Arnhem pieces, such as a para jeep, is a strictly limited, I suspect it will sell out instantly, sending just the opposite message. It this is true, the conclusion drawn might be that the popularity of the subject matter (i.e. Rommel sells out instantly, Panzer Meyer sits on the shelf) may play the biggest roll in determining whether a strictly limited set will sell.
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Louis

Great observation - I agree 100%

If you are going to make a "Collector Item" (SL) then make it a collector item by reducing the number of production. Another thought to add to your insightful statement above is "stop cutting corners" The Rommel Half Track and the Meyer Half Track are the same with different paint and figures. Once you have a Rommel ($125-130) why would you buy the Meyer ($199) ?? for the extra figures ??? Well the answer has already been sent by the consumer.

Price is a factor for the collector and it will be harder to expand your collector base if the cost of each Set keeps going up. Hopefully Andy will resist the temptation of making ($199 +) expensive SL sets and bring it down to a little for all of us to enjoy.

Ron
 
Capitolron said:
A better form of SL Items would be a production run 999 and keeping the cost down to less $150.

It would make it more economical to purchase and still have a budget to buy additional items in other ranges you want.

Stacking a SL Set with figures doesnt make it a better set - IMO.
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Capitolron,
It would be nice if the production run and price were lower for SL items. I have no problem with that, especially the lower price. :) Stacking a set with figures may not make for a better set, but my issue was with Combat's "double the price" comment. For what is in the set (BBA15 anyway), the price is fair, there's no doubling of price.
If I am wrong about that, my apologies. :eek:
Justin
 
Capitolron said:
Louis

Great observation - I agree 100%

If you are going to make a "Collector Item" (SL) then make it a collector item by reducing the number of production. Another thought to add to your insightful statement above is "stop cutting corners" The Rommel Half Track and the Meyer Half Track are the same with different paint and figures. Once you have a Rommel ($125-130) why would you buy the Meyer ($199) ?? for the extra figures ??? Well the answer has already been sent by the consumer.

Price is a factor for the collector and it will be harder to expand your collector base if the cost of each Set keeps going up. Hopefully Andy will resist the temptation of making ($199 +) expensive SL sets and bring it down to a little for all of us to enjoy.

Ron
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Hi Ron

The panzer meyer and Rommel halftracks are quite different,
meyers halftrack is a fair bit larger and also has better detail
than the rommel version
cheers Rob
 
Rommel's is a SdKfz 250 and the Panzer Meyer is a SdKfz 251 which is longer.
 
Quite right Rob. The Rommel and Meyer vehicles were differnt size halftracks.
Rommel being a bit more popular an individual than Meyer, and having a slightly cult like following, might explain it's selling out faster.
Both items are wonderful models and well worth the price.
AND! I do believe that 999 is a more limited LE.
 
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