Differences between sets or slight changes to figures (1 Viewer)

It has been a long time since anyone has posted on this thread, yesterday I managed to find the later version of set#BD4 - SAVAGE FURY, here are a couple of comparison pictures with the original set

First version

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Second version

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Martyn:)
 
Very cool Martyn, does the soldier on the box have his base made to look like the top of the box he is stood on? or is it just a green base and the box is just open.

You just have to love the cottage industries as finding differences between sets is a hobby in itself. Much like how Britians used to be many years ago. I have paint variants of some of the hollowcast stuff and also the plastic items.
 
Very cool Martyn, does the soldier on the box have his base made to look like the top of the box he is stood on? or is it just a green base and the box is just open.

You just have to love the cottage industries as finding differences between sets is a hobby in itself. Much like how Britians used to be many years ago. I have paint variants of some of the hollowcast stuff and also the plastic items.

Many thanks Scott.

The soldiers base is indeed a box top, he will stand quite freely when not on the box

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Martyn:)
 
Many thanks Scott.

The soldiers base is indeed a box top, he will stand quite freely when not on the box

Cheers

Martyn:)

Thanks Martyn, I like it when manufactures do this, use another item as the base, unfortunately it doesn't happen all that often.
 
Here is the little dog from the BOER WAR set# SAS2 - THE COLUMN and, almost, the same little dog out walking with his elegant young lady owner set# C42A

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Martyn
 
Here are a couple of examples of Lieutenant Coghill, one in a white helmet and one in a stained helmet, the one in the stained helmet has a red stripe on his trousers. Both figures have HZ6 (Hand2Hand set) stamped in the base but the one with the larger, terrain base also has 03 stamped denoting it as a very late version

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Martyn:)
 
Set# HZ25 - LOAD FAST OR DIE - ZULU WITH AXE

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Set# HZ25 - LOAD FAST OR DIE - ZULU WITH KNOBKERRI

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The two sets together

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Martyn:)
 
THE CRIMEAN WAR

Single figure set# CW1 - GUARDS OFFICER

At one time they appeared in the Trophy catalogue as single figures, this allowed collectors to mix and match their sets



These two figures show the different way the sword is held.

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Martyn:)
 
THE CRIMEAN WAR

Single figure set# CW1 - GUARDS OFFICER

At one time they appeared in the Trophy catalogue as single figures, this allowed collectors to mix and match their sets



These two figures show the different way the sword is held.

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Martyn:)

A very good illustration Martyn, of how a lot of figures are made up - when they are at the castings stage. Most painters of castings are well aware, that many, if not most figures are made this way.

The manufacturer usually has one or even two or three basic body shapes - and then makes up various arms, heads, weapons - or even musical instruments to make their various "sets" - such as bands or even action figures like your two worthies here. Thus, when a purchaser buys a set - all of the decisions like poses, paint schemes etcetera, have already been made for him. He likes what he sees - and buys it - - and is very pleased with what he has. And very nice too.:D

The buyer of castings in kit form, however - often has a lot more choices available - including going elsewhere for the various bits and pieces he would like to use - to get the figures and poses he wants - by conversion. Once the various parts are assembled - the amount of detail and finish - is only retrained by the eyesight and ability of the painter. In the hands of an expert like "beating retreat", for example - the results are frequently stunning.

Not to say either way is right or wrong by the way - but your illustration of a minor difference to the figure by component choice shows it very neatly.


(Still wish Len's pieces were available as casrtings!!):D jb
 
A very good illustration Martyn, of how a lot of figures are made up - when they are at the castings stage. Most painters of castings are well aware, that many, if not most figures are made this way.

The manufacturer usually has one or even two or three basic body shapes - and then makes up various arms, heads, weapons - or even musical instruments to make their various "sets" - such as bands or even action figures like your two worthies here. Thus, when a purchaser buys a set - all of the decisions like poses, paint schemes etcetera, have already been made for him. He likes what he sees - and buys it - - and is very pleased with what he has. And very nice too.:D

The buyer of castings in kit form, however - often has a lot more choices available - including going elsewhere for the various bits and pieces he would like to use - to get the figures and poses he wants - by conversion. Once the various parts are assembled - the amount of detail and finish - is only retrained by the eyesight and ability of the painter. In the hands of an expert like "beating retreat", for example - the results are frequently stunning.

Not to say either way is right or wrong by the way - but your illustration of a minor difference to the figure by component choice shows it very neatly.


(Still wish Len's pieces were available as casrtings!!):D jb

Many thanks jb :salute::

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Martyn:)
 
Here are a couple of York and Lancs/Grenadier Guards Officers from the EGYPT and THE SUDAN series. One Officer uses a Dervish spear as a weapon to defend himself and the other Officer has a sword. The helmets are different and there is a pistol on the base of the Officer with the spear.



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Martyn:)
 
I recently discovered that there are two slightly different poses for Colonel Travis in the Texas War for Independence range. I will try to post a photo tonight.

Brad
 
I recently discovered that there are two slightly different poses for Colonel Travis in the Texas War for Independence range. I will try to post a photo tonight.

Brad

Please do Brad :salute::

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Martyn:)
 
This may not qualify as as slight difference but Trophy did two versions of Travis. The one on the right was its own separate set whereas the figure on the left was part of a hand to hand set.
 

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This may not qualify as as slight difference but Trophy did two versions of Travis. The one on the right was its own separate set whereas the figure on the left was part of a hand to hand set.

He qualifies Brad :salute:: the right arm has been changed from one figure to the other and it looks like the heads have also been changed from the style of the hat.

Thanks for posting the pictures

Martyn:)
 
He qualifies Brad :salute:: the right arm has been changed from one figure to the other and it looks like the heads have also been changed from the style of the hat.

Thanks for posting the pictures

Martyn:)


Another difference is in the scabbarded sword which just shows on the figure with two pistols on the right. The figure with drawn sword in hand either has an empty scabbard - or none at all (doesn't show from these photo angles). In sum - two similar figures with quite a number of differences between them, done at the assembly stage - before painting. Both versions are very nice indeed, of course.:D jb.
 
Here are a couple of Naval Brigade Officers from the Anglo Zulu War series.



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Martyn:)
 
This may not qualify as as slight difference but Trophy did two versions of Travis. The one on the right was its own separate set whereas the figure on the left was part of a hand to hand set.
Brad: I have two just like yours. Tommy
 
Here are a couple of early Afghans, the arms have been changed to give different poses



They are set#A.45 - Standing at the ready and set# A.44 - Standing at ease

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Martyn:)
 
Amazing to see how rather small changes create a completly new figurine.
Allways nice to watch and compare. Thanks for shareing.
Kind Regards
Wolfgang
 

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