What about the early 18th century? Sneak peak (1 Viewer)

[Poppo]

Hi everyone.
It is known that this hobby is based on a commercial activity: it produces what is sold in greater quantities. For this reason, some important historical moments are neglected,or only touched or as in this case, ignored.

I am very interested in the European period between the 17th and 18th centuries, the era of Louis 14, of the glories of the European courts. An important period, but ignored by the toy soldier industry. They produced the 1600s, musketeers, English civil war (not the pirates) and then we jump to the end of 1700: the American war of independence, but there remains a void that I want to fill)

I found a few kits to paint and unfortunately one is lost due to an address error in the shipment that I hope to recover. Please note below a style of dress, and attitudes different from previous and following historical periods.WHat do you think?

 

[theBaron]

...I am very interested in the European period between the 17th and 18th centuries, the era of Louis 14, of the glories of the European courts. An important period, but ignored by the toy soldier industry. They produced the 1600s, musketeers, English civil war (not the pirates) and then we jump to the end of 1700: the American war of independence, but there remains a void that I want to fill)...

Sorry, but that is simply not true. CBG, Lucotte, and Mignot certainly produced figures of Louis XIV and his soldiers. There are figures of Marlborough's army out there, also represented in both classic toy soldier catalogs and in more modern maker's catalogs. And you ignore the Seven Years War, heavily represented in the catalogs of both classic toy soldier manufacturers and more contemporary makers.

You want to rephrase your lament?

 

[Poppo]

Sorry, but that is simply not true. CBG, Lucotte, and Mignot certainly produced figures of Louis XIV and his soldiers. There are figures of Marlborough's army out there, also represented in both classic toy soldier catalogs and in more modern maker's catalogs. And you ignore the Seven Years War, heavily represented in the catalogs of both classic toy soldier manufacturers and more contemporary makers.

You want to rephrase your lament?

I don't lament because I have found what I wish and in a highly detailed sculpts.

The brands you name are not enough detailed for my taste as I pretend modern, detailed sculpts....Moreover, I am not interested in "soldiers" but in "courts"...I am sorry for example that I haven't found high level sculpts of princesses, queens, servants, valets of this period...

 

[blaster]

Hi Poppo,

This company supplies 17-18th century figures, but no "court" figures.

http://www.figurines.com.pl/EN/about.html


Rgds Victor

 

[Obee]

Hi Poppo,

This company supplies 17-18th century figures, but no "court" figures.

http://www.figurines.com.pl/EN/about.html


Rgds Victor

Victor,

they look really nice, I'm sure I could add a few of them to my collection, and great to see that you can buy castings

JOhn

 

[theBaron]

Hi Poppo,

This company supplies 17-18th century figures, but no "court" figures.

http://www.figurines.com.pl/EN/about.html


Rgds Victor

Hi, Victor, I'm not sure Krakus is still in business, though. I reached out to him via his email link a couple years ago, because a member of the Figure-Mad Forum mentioned that he knew Krakus from the Kulmbach show. He thought Krakus might have the old PZ Miniatures molds. But I never got a response.

Another maker who has a catalog specifically on the Ancien Regime is Art Miniature, whose website is here: www.figurine-artminiature.com/ They have great figures, civilian as well as military, and available as kits or finished to different levels of quality. But they, too, have never responded to email contacts. And about 5 years ago or so, the address on the website changed from Paris, to Madagascar.

So again, it's simply not true to say that the period is ignored.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Poppo]

Hi, Victor, I'm not sure Krakus is still in business, though. I reached out to him via his email link a couple years ago, because a member of the Figure-Mad Forum mentioned that he knew Krakus from the Kulmbach show. He thought Krakus might have the old PZ Miniatures molds. But I never got a response.

Another maker who has a catalog specifically on the Ancien Regime is Art Miniature, whose website is here: www.figurine-artminiature.com/ They have great figures, civilian as well as military, and available as kits or finished to different levels of quality. But they, too, have never responded to email contacts. And about 5 years ago or so, the address on the website changed from Paris, to Madagascar.

So again, it's simply not true to say that the period is ignored.

Prost!
Brad

Art miniatures shows three fig. about 18th century! And the other company you mention pratically doesn't exist, as you say...
You didn't get or you fake not to get my post..I am not looking for childish quarrels about any existant figure in the world,I was just saying that I am going to make a diorama that pratically nobody has done...Please, don't lose your time to show me that a guy somewhere in the world has made a dio on the 18th century court! Also, I meant that no major company like King and country, first legion, thomas gunn ever did this. Ciao.

 

[paxtoysoldier]

Art miniatures shows three fig. about 18th century! And the other company you mention pratically doesn't exist, as you say...
You didn't get or you fake not to get my post..I am not looking for childish quarrels about any existant figure in the world,I was just saying that I am going to make a diorama that pratically nobody has done...Please, don't lose your time to show me that a guy somewhere in the world has made a dio on the 18th century court! Also, I meant that no major company like King and country, first legion, thomas gunn ever did this. Ciao.

I get it. I'd say it's more under-done than non-existent. I love Mignot's Ball at Malmaison scene. Wish I had it.
Your dio is off to a good start. Looking forward to seeing it completed!
Best Wishes, Paddy

P.S. - How about Ben Franklin at the French court or John Adams meeting King George III? American requests, yes, but important 18th Cent. court scenes. Good luck finding the figs though...

 

[blaster]

Hi All,

From what I understand, Poppo is looking for court figures of Louis XIV. Many of these male figures would be wearing the justacorp coat. Besides the Russian EK figures 60mm, there are still some suitable figures in 54mm with this sort of costume, probably requiring conversions. Eg Tradition of London, Errolljohn Rose figures (?). Historex has some figures in Louis XV outfit which can be converted as well besides the Louis XVI and Maria Leszczynska couple.

If you are lucky, the OOP Le Cimier historical couples has some suitable male and female figures in period costume. Also the Mokarex Cafe Storme figures would be suitable for conversion.

Perhaps also S&D models Georgian range for the ladies might work.
https://www.sanddmodels.co.uk/products_32.htm

Here is an interesting website which showcases other makes which might promote further possibilities.
http://www.femalemodelsinscale.com/422864662

Rgds Victor

 

[blaster]

Hi All,

Correcting my post below:

John Eden Studios is (was?) producing the Rose figures. Recently, the website seems to be down.

Historex's couple was Louis XV and Marie Le....

There are also Peipp figures which are dressed in court costumes suitable for this period.

Rgds Victor

 

[Poppo]

The display is ready{sm3} Soon on the diorama section.