12th Dragoon Review (2 Viewers)

U guys are dragging me to FL
Beautiful figures
more poses and expressions than KC
compare to KC
what is general opinion?
is it worth the extra money?
Maple Leaf
Ultimately that is a question that each must answer for himself. I can only say that like most FL collectors, the difference in quality and realism in poses, sculpture and painting are more than worth it to me. I best I can suggest is to try one figure of a line you like. It is a small investment to be sure for yourself and I doubt very much you will be disappointed.
 
Ultimately that is a question that each must answer for himself. I can only say that like most FL collectors, the difference in quality and realism in poses, sculpture and painting are more than worth it to me. I best I can suggest is to try one figure of a line you like. It is a small investment to be sure for yourself and I doubt very much you will be disappointed.

Well said Bill and very sound advise . I think your statements sum up very well the Sentiments of most of the collectors who enjoy First Legions products . I would also add that at the current prices most of us are aware of the Fact that we are getting a bargain . This quality normally comes with a price tag at over $100.00 or more per figure . Even companies producing figures at $100.00+ are not making figures at this level while still offering collectors this Variety of poses, or are they giving a Battle or period the coverage that First Legion are . And First Legion are just getting warmed up :eek: . Now is a Great time to get on board ;) All the best Gebhard
 
An excellent review by Bill, which I would have missed if he has not pointed it out to me.

The pictures showing the engagement with Cuirassiers of other manufacturers are very helpful indeed.

Thank you!
 
Counter Charge of the 12th and 13th Light Dragoons by Chris Collingwood

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Lord Uxbridge commits the Light Dragoons against the French Cuirassiers and Chasseurs, who are driven over the ridge and down the slope.
 
Counter Charge of the 12th and 13th Light Dragoons by Chris Collingwood

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Lord Uxbridge commits the Light Dragoons against the French Cuirassiers and Chasseurs, who are driven over the ridge and down the slope.
Very nice, I like Collingwood's work quite a bit. I also have some more light Dragoon paintings for the "Paintings" thread.;);)
 
The 12th Light Dragoons at Salamanca, July 22nd 1812 by B Granville Baker

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Note the tarleton helmets being worn here, rather than the shakos as depicted by FL.

Wanted to post a bigger picture but limited by the size allowed.
 
The 12th Light Dragoons at Salamanca, July 22nd 1812 by B Granville Baker

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Note the tarleton helmets being worn here, rather than the shakos as depicted by FL.

Wanted to post a bigger picture but limited by the size allowed.
Oh I think we need the largest picture of that you have.:cool: You can post a very large one using Photobucket's free service or send it to me and I will post it for you if you like.

Personally I love the tarletons but they were replaced with Shakos in 1812, before the time of Waterloo, which, of course, is the time FL is modeling. Of course, they were not so popular with the troopers since they tended to be too heavy, not very durable and useless when wet. We have the same issue on timing with the FL British Guard shakos, which I happen to prefer over the earlier stovepipes. That is somewhat the curse of having Waterloo as the British benchmark but it is obviously better than nothing and will have to do until FL turns to the Peninsula. Fortunately, the Rifles uniform didn't change much.;):D
 
...Personally I love the tarletons but they were replaced with Shakos in 1812, before the time of Waterloo, which, of course, is the time FL is modeling. Of course, they were not so popular with the troopers since they tended to be too heavy, not very durable and useless when wet. We have the same issue on timing with the FL British Guard shakos, which I happen to prefer over the earlier stovepipes. That is somewhat the curse of having Waterloo as the British benchmark but it is obviously better than nothing and will have to do until FL turns to the Peninsula. Fortunately, the Rifles uniform didn't change much.;):D

Bill-
Please correct me if I am wrong, but weren't there a couple of line regiments that also retained the 'stovepipe' shako? I seem to remember the 28th Regiment was one of them. This may have been said before, but the 28th would be a good regiment for FL to do, as its uniform would be correct for both the Peninsula and the Hundred Days.

Noah
 
Bill-
Please correct me if I am wrong, but weren't there a couple of line regiments that also retained the 'stovepipe' shako? I seem to remember the 28th Regiment was one of them. This may have been said before, but the 28th would be a good regiment for FL to do, as its uniform would be correct for both the Peninsula and the Hundred Days.

Noah
I think that is correct. They were in midst of things at Waterloo and Quatre Bras and fought at Corunna, Douro, Talavera, Busaco, Barrosa, Albuera, Vitoria, Maya, Niville and Toulouse. Several other units did not change to the Belgic shako until after they returned from the Peninsula but some did, depending on the vagaries of supply and reinforcement.
 
I think that is correct. They were in midst of things at Waterloo and Quatre Bras and fought at Corunna, Douro, Talavera, Busaco, Barrosa, Albuera, Vitoria, Maya, Niville and Toulouse. Several other units did not change to the Belgic shako until after they returned from the Peninsula but some did, depending on the vagaries of supply and reinforcement.

After 1812, the stovepipe shako was replaced with the Belgic shako. However, Light infantry, Rifle regts and the 28th Line regt continued to wear the stovepipe shako.
 
After 1812, the stovepipe shako was replaced with the Belgic shako. However, Light infantry, Rifle regts and the 28th Line regt continued to wear the stovepipe shako.
That was the official policy but policy and supply in the army differed, as always, even now. Based on actual accounts, some line units got the new shakos while in the Peninsula, many, if not most, did not. When the entire Peninsula army was dependent on ships from England for its supply, it is not surprising that even priority items were not always available when scheduled. Then of course, there was the little matter with getting the money out of parliment.;):D Replacements from England after 1812 arrived with the new shako but the soldiers in country were another matter.
 
Indeed, policy is one thing but implementation is another... that's the real world for you.
 
Just a quick question : I was wondering if someone has bought both a FL english dragoon and the FL english artillery set ?

I have the french and russian artillery sets but the english one looks very tempting. I was blown away when I received my 1st english dragoon (the officer) that I've ordered another one (the NCO( and will buy most probably all the figures of this release. For whoever has bought also the english artillery set, do the painting of these figures compares with the one of the english dragoons. I mean are the flesh tones done the same way ?

Thank you !

Alex
 
Just a quick question : I was wondering if someone has bought both a FL english dragoon and the FL english artillery set ?

I have the french and russian artillery sets but the english one looks very tempting. I was blown away when I received my 1st english dragoon (the officer) that I've ordered another one (the NCO( and will buy most probably all the figures of this release. For whoever has bought also the english artillery set, do the painting of these figures compares with the one of the english dragoons. I mean are the flesh tones done the same way ?

Thank you !

Alex
Yes, in my experience through many Napoleonic releases, the FL painting is very consistent.:)
 
I have the First Foot Guard, the Highlanders
and the artillery set also Lord Uxbridge with a dragoon escort
Faces are very well standard even with my Prussians
I have to give it to FL
Faces, no pale canadians or tanned floridians
Those Brits all look alike
Very nice collection
Maple Leaf
 
My prefered 'faces' from FL are the french old guard guys. Simply amazing !

Alex
 

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