1911 Delhi Durbar and other info (1 Viewer)

[ROAN]

For all you Delhi Durbar and/or diorama fans out there:

The roll of units that participated in the 1911 Coronation Durbar at Delhi:

Cavalry Division

9th Brigade RHA
10th Brigade RHA
1st Kings Dragoon Guards
8th Cavalry
36th Jacob's Horse
13th Hussars
3rd Skinner's Horse
18th Lancers
10th Hussars
9th Hodson's Horse
30th Lancers
Field Troop, Sappers & Miners
No.41 Wireless Signal Co

Third Division

10th Lancers
46th Brigade RFA
3rd Mountain Artillery Brigade
6th Co., 1st Sappers & Miners
3rd Divisional Signal Co
23rd Pioneers
1st Connaught Rangers
57th Rifles
18th Infantry
1st Manchester Regt
53rd Sikhs
28th Punjabis
47th Sikhs
1st West Riding Regt
1/1st Gurkha Rifles
2/1st Gurkha Rifles
2/4th Gurkha Rifles

Seventh Division

17th Cavalry
5th Brigade RFA
7th Mountain Artillery Brigade
2nd Co., 1st Sapper & Miners
32nd Divisional Signal Co
128th Pioneers
4th Kings Royal Rifle Corps
130th Baluchis
1/9th Gurkha Rifles
2/2nd Gurkha Rifles
1st South Lancashire Regt
2/3rd Gurkha Rifles
1/39th Garwhal Rifles
2/39th Garwhal Rifles
4th Worcestershire Regt
16th Rajputs
1/3rd Gurkha Rifles
2/10th Gurkha Rifles

Composite Division

6th Inniskilling Dragoons
4th (Howitzer) Brigade RFA
11th Co., 2nd Sappers & Miners
33rd Divisional Signal Co.
48th Pioneers
1st Northumberland Fusiliers
2nd Royal Fusiliers
2nd Royal Highlanders
2nd Gordon Highlanders
1st Durham Light Infantry
90th Punjabis
116th Mahrattas
45th Rattray'sSikhs
1st Highland Light Infantry
74th Punjabis
36th Sikhs
41st Dogras
11th Lancers

Delhi Garrison

59th Company RGA
4th Co., 1st Sappers & Miners
2nd Royal Berkshire Regt
1st Seaforth Highlanders
3rd King's Royal Rifle Corps
33rd Punjabis
34th Sikh Pioneers
107th Pioneers

Volunteer Contingent

2 composite squadrons Light Horse
1 composite company Mounted Rifles
Composite company Artillery & Port Defense Volunteers
Composite Battalion Infantry

Imperial Service Troops

Alwar, Bhopal, Gwalior, Hyderabad, Jodhpur, Kashmir, Mysore, Patiala & Rampur Lancers, Bahawalpur Mounted Escort, Bikaner Camel Corps & Khairpur Mounted Escort, Faridkote, Maler Kotla, Sirmoor & Tehri Sappers & Miners, Alwar, Bharatpur, Bikaner, Gwalior, Jind, Kapurthala, Kashmir, Nabha, Patiala & Rampur Infantry

Source(downloadable Excel file) :

http://www.themanchesters.org/dehli durbar.htm



This is a page listing the units that participated in the march past honoring the Prince and Princess of Wales held at Rawalpindi in December, 1905. The roll includes unit commanders, key personnel, i.e. Kitchener as Commander-in- Chief India, facing colors, etc.

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~clday/rawal2.htm

and a link to a close-up of the 1911 Delhi Durbar medal:

http://www.northeastmedals.co.uk/britishguide/the_delhi_durbar_medal_1911.htm



Enjoy!

 

[wadepat]

Hi ROAN,

I very much appreciate the information you have presented. Thanks a bunch for all the effort to which you have gone to organize and post this data. It is excellent and useful information!

Warmest personal regards,

Pat

 

[kilted vampire]

Hi ROAN,

I very much appreciate the information you have presented. Thanks a bunch for all the effort to which you have gone to organize and post this data. It is excellent and useful information!

Warmest personal regards,

Pat

What he said in spades. Also because he says it better than anyone I know.

 

[DMNamiot]

Hi Roan,

Good posting. I have an email into a dealer in medals who recently sold a nice miniture of the Durbar medal you posted. I am looking for the full size one for the 03 Durbar of the basic grade since they came in three grades. I hope he will get his hands on one sometime this year.

On a another good bit of news I found a copy of Wheelers Book and its on its way as we speak so I will finally have that one next one to find is Menpes book but thats one will be pricey so its on the back burner for a while. I also scored two sets from the Britains Durbar display that should be what I need to complete the series I have to make sure but I think it will be time to kick back and enjoy the show! So all in all its been a very exciting week of acquisitions. Hope everyone else is have as good a week.

All the best

Dave

 

[Currahee Chris]

That list reads like a who's who of the British Military during that time. Nice post, very informative. Must have been quite a show.

 

[ROAN]

Hi Roan,

On a another good bit of news I found a copy of Wheelers Book and its on its way as we speak so I will finally have that one next one to find is Menpes book but thats one will be pricey so its on the back burner for a while. I also scored two sets from the Britains Durbar display that should be what I need to complete the series I have to make sure but I think it will be time to kick back and enjoy the show! So all in all its been a very exciting week of acquisitions. Hope everyone else is have as good a week.

All the best

Dave

Dave,

Refresh my memory about the Menpes and Wheeler books-I know there was a discussion about books on British India, the Mutiny etc., but I don't recall these.

Geoff

 

[ROAN]

Hi ROAN,

I very much appreciate the information you have presented. Thanks a bunch for all the effort to which you have gone to organize and post this data. It is excellent and useful information!

Warmest personal regards,

Pat

And next time I start a thread I’ll be more careful about posting it under the correct discussion heading…..

 

[DMNamiot]

Hi Geoff,

The two books I refered too are the following:

THE DURBAR
Menpes, Mortimer & Dorothy
Publisher: Adam & Charles Black, London
Publication Date: 1903

The first Durbar was held in 1877 to proclaim Queen Victoria as Empress of India. This is the second Durbar to proclaim Edward VII as king, in 1902 but was not attended by the King either. It was not until the 1911 Durbar, when George V and Queen Mary went to India, was the Emperor and his Empress proclaimed in person to the people of India.

The authors stayed in Camp Number One called "The Millionaires' Camp." in Delhi. The illustrations have been engraved and printed at the Menpes Press under Mr. Menpes's direction. 210 pp.

History of the Delhi Coronation Durbar Held on the First of January 1903 to Celebrate the Coronation of His Majesty King Edward VII, Emperor of India
S Wheeler
ISBN: 8185318565
Publication Date: 1991


I recently have found Wheelers book so I am waiting for it to arrive. The other book is far more problematic since it was run in 1903 and from what I can tell in extremely limited numbers. My estimate is probably fewer than 1500 but I could well be wrong here and its simply a difficult book to find due to its age and at the time very colourful plates along with the very good materials used to put it together make it a valuable addition to any library. I have been watching ebay and one or two other book specific sites and the opening bid for one on ebay recently was 150 GBP and it was being bid on so I dont know how high it will go. There are some other references to this event but none are more comprehensive.

Hope this helps. All the best

Dave

 

[ROAN]

Hi Geoff,

The two books I refered to are the following:

THE DURBAR
Menpes, Mortimer & Dorothy
Publisher: Adam & Charles Black, London
Publication Date: 1903

The first Durbar was held in 1877 to proclaim Queen Victoria as Empress of India. This is the second Durbar to proclaim Edward VII as king, in 1902 but was not attended by the King either. It was not until the 1911 Durbar, when George V and Queen Mary went to India, was the Emperor and his Empress proclaimed in person to the people of India.

The authors stayed in Camp Number One called "The Millionaires' Camp." in Delhi. The illustrations have been engraved and printed at the Menpes Press under Mr. Menpes's direction. 210 pp.

History of the Delhi Coronation Durbar Held on the First of January 1903 to Celebrate the Coronation of His Majesty King Edward VII, Emperor of India
S Wheeler
ISBN: 8185318565
Publication Date: 1991


I recently have found Wheelers book so I am waiting for it to arrive. The other book is far mor problematic since it was run in 1903 and from what I can tell in extremely limited numbers. My estimate is probably fewer than 1500 but I could well be wrong here and its simply a difficult book to find due to its age and at the time very colourful plates along with the very good materials used to put it together make it a valuable addition to any library. I have been watching ebay and one or two other book specific sites and the opening bid for one on ebay recently was 150 GBP and it was being bid on so I dont know how high it will go. There are some other references to this event but none are more comprehensive.

Hope this helps. All the best

Dave

Wow!-amazing-what a find!

The info I posted about the 1911 Durbar was all based on research done by Peter Duckers. He and Ian McInnes have written The Delhi Durbar 1903: A Complete Roll and Index of Recipients.

Info:
Paperback
Publisher: Jade Publishing Ltd (2002)
ISBN-10: 190073401X
ISBN-13: 978-1900734011

Good luck in locating a copy of this book though. Jade Publishing’s web site is difficult to navigate around-but heard on another discussion board that they are planning another print run of the ’03 Durbar book.

Best,

Geoff

 

[DMNamiot]

Hi Geoff,

Very good information. I will see if I can find the book you mention I tend to poke around on a few of book sites a month and with the ISBN may be able to find it.

I need to make a correction to the cost on the Menpes book its opening bid was 129.50 GBP with a 15-20 GBP shipping cost to the states because of the weight of the book.

Have a great day

All the best

Dave

 

[ROAN]

Hi Geoff,

I need to make a correction to the cost on the Menpes book its opening bid was 129.50 GBP with a 15-20 GBP shipping cost to the states because of the weight of the book.

Have a great day

All the best

Dave

That's the thing about buying books from overseas-the postage is astronomical esp. with the current exchange rates but in your case it was well worth it. I bought Opie's Great Britains book from a UK book dealer when it was around $150 and the postage was about $75-thought I was getting a pretty good deal, though.

 

[DMNamiot]

Hi ROAN,

I would give my eye teeth for a copy of Opies book! $225 is a very good price for it. I just lost out on a copy of it on Ebay because I cant bring myself to spend $350 plus shipping. Maybe I find it someday for a price I can justify but 350 would really get me in dutch with my frau!

Now the Wheeler book I got for less than the $75 you paid for shipping so I am very happy. I will probably begin looking very hard for Menpes book especially at used book shops. I sometimes make very good finds at those shops and usually it only costs me a few pennies on the dollar for the books I discover. Today I stumbled into a great find of a book called Something of Value By Robert Ruark. I enjoy his writing style and he writes mainly of hunting in Africa or of African life. I have several of his other books and today I found this one in a pile of books for free. So maybe someday I'll stumble into a deal like that for the Britains Book.

But anyway I will post some more information on the 03 Durbar soon because it has been great getting my hands on Wheelers book.

All the best

Dave

 

[Showman]

Hi Geoff,

The two books I refered too are the following:

THE DURBAR
Menpes, Mortimer & Dorothy
Publisher: Adam & Charles Black, London
Publication Date: 1903

The first Durbar was held in 1877 to proclaim Queen Victoria as Empress of India. This is the second Durbar to proclaim Edward VII as king, in 1902 but was not attended by the King either. It was not until the 1911 Durbar, when George V and Queen Mary went to India, was the Emperor and his Empress proclaimed in person to the people of India.

The authors stayed in Camp Number One called "The Millionaires' Camp." in Delhi. The illustrations have been engraved and printed at the Menpes Press under Mr. Menpes's direction. 210 pp.

History of the Delhi Coronation Durbar Held on the First of January 1903 to Celebrate the Coronation of His Majesty King Edward VII, Emperor of India
S Wheeler
ISBN: 8185318565
Publication Date: 1991


I recently have found Wheelers book so I am waiting for it to arrive. The other book is far more problematic since it was run in 1903 and from what I can tell in extremely limited numbers. My estimate is probably fewer than 1500 but I could well be wrong here and its simply a difficult book to find due to its age and at the time very colourful plates along with the very good materials used to put it together make it a valuable addition to any library. I have been watching ebay and one or two other book specific sites and the opening bid for one on ebay recently was 150 GBP and it was being bid on so I dont know how high it will go. There are some other references to this event but none are more comprehensive.

Hope this helps. All the best

Dave

Dave , I appreciate the information on the books. Is the Wheeler book readily available? I love to read it it...Greg

 

[DMNamiot]

Hi Greag,

I wouldnt say that its readily available but I have seen it several time this past year and finally found one I could afford. Chack on ABE Books website and you should be able to find it. The one I picked up was in NYC and the shipping was reasonable so I snapped it up. The others were in the UK which made it too pricey for me. I have also seen it on ebay but not as often. I suspect that the people who sell them dont use ebay because they probably figure the collectors base is too small to warrent the cost of an ebay auction. But like I said before I found mine on ABE Books and you probably will see one there too.

All the best

Dave

 

[Showman]

Dave- Thanks again for the information...Greg

 

[ROAN]

Hi Geoff,

The two books I refered too are the following:

THE DURBAR
Menpes, Mortimer & Dorothy
Publisher: Adam & Charles Black, London
Publication Date: 1903

The first Durbar was held in 1877 to proclaim Queen Victoria as Empress of India. This is the second Durbar to proclaim Edward VII as king, in 1902 but was not attended by the King either. It was not until the 1911 Durbar, when George V and Queen Mary went to India, was the Emperor and his Empress proclaimed in person to the people of India.

The authors stayed in Camp Number One called "The Millionaires' Camp." in Delhi. The illustrations have been engraved and printed at the Menpes Press under Mr. Menpes's direction. 210 pp.

History of the Delhi Coronation Durbar Held on the First of January 1903 to Celebrate the Coronation of His Majesty King Edward VII, Emperor of India
S Wheeler
ISBN: 8185318565
Publication Date: 1991


I recently have found Wheelers book so I am waiting for it to arrive. The other book is far more problematic since it was run in 1903 and from what I can tell in extremely limited numbers. My estimate is probably fewer than 1500 but I could well be wrong here and its simply a difficult book to find due to its age and at the time very colourful plates along with the very good materials used to put it together make it a valuable addition to any library. I have been watching ebay and one or two other book specific sites and the opening bid for one on ebay recently was 150 GBP and it was being bid on so I dont know how high it will go. There are some other references to this event but none are more comprehensive.

Hope this helps. All the best

Dave

Found a discussion board where someone has posted illustrations of scenes from the 1903 Durbar from the Menpes book here. Apparently, this particular copy of the book once belonged to the Maharaja of Alwar and was acquired on ebay at a "bargain price".

 

[wadepat]

Found a discussion board where someone has posted illustrations of scenes from the 1903 Durbar from the Menpes book here. Apparently, this particular copy of the book once belonged to the Maharaja of Alwar and was acquired on ebay at a "bargain price".

Hi ROAN,

Those are very interesting pictures and Illustrations. Thanks for posting the link. The pictures add some additional charm and character to the Delhi Durbar figures that we collect.

Warmest personal regards,

Pat

 

[DMNamiot]

Hi Guys,

Such a great book I wish they would reprint it. But I have seen this book several times on Ebay and the last one I had to watch go for $365 plus shipping. I was out at $165. Maybe someday. Thanks for posting the link to the pictures.

All the best

Dave

 

[Louis Badolato]

Found a discussion board where someone has posted illustrations of scenes from the 1903 Durbar from the Menpes book here. Apparently, this particular copy of the book once belonged to the Maharaja of Alwar and was acquired on ebay at a "bargain price".

Roan,

Thanks so much for the link! What amazing prints. If I saw that book on Ebay, I think I would have to bid on it. What a treasure. Loved the shots of the proud old veterans with their medals.

 

[sirsydney]

If anyone is still looking for a copy of the Wheeler book, go to Amazon.com and you will find 2 new copies of the 1991 edition available for about $28.50 plus $4 shipping. I ordered a copy on 6/14 and got it today so they ship really quick. Best regards.