21st century Long Tom (1 Viewer)

[woodenwarriors]

Just received my 21st century Long Tom from TSSD what a great addition to my little army artillery unit.
Heres a couple of pics for the ones that havent seen it yet.
Charlie

 

[woodenwarriors]

21st Century long Tom in field position Accompanied by some timmee soldiers.

 

[woodenwarriors]

Long Tom in transport mode. Wish they would make the big weapons carrier that transported these that would be a great set.
Charlie

 

[woodenwarriors]

The Long Tom and the 8 inch gun together. Nice pieces in my mind.
Charlie

 

[woodenwarriors]

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And The Marx Long Tom for comparison of old to new. With a truck I converted to pull it into the field.
Charlie

 

[maddadicus]

Charlie, is that gun metal or plastic? Michael

 

[woodenwarriors]

Plastic right up my ally and a great addition to my army.
Charlie

 

[binder001]

They are some of the nicest pieces that 21C has done yet!

By the way, in "field position" the bogies stayed attached to the gun mount. The gun was lowered to the ground via screw jacks on the bogies. The bogies (the 4-wheel unit) didn't get removed from the gun. The limber (the 2-wheel dolly) DID get pulled out of the way, but stayed close enough that the gun could be moved. I think the "official" time to get a 155mm gun into action was about an hour (I'm working just from memory here - I haven't read the FM in a long time).

Gary

 

[binder001]

PS - for anybody who might want to show these guns in "action" - no brass cartridges. Both the 155mm (gun and howitzer) and 8"howitzer were "bag" guns. The projectile was placed in the chamber, rammed tight and then a bag of propellant would be inserted. A primer, about the size of a .30cal cartridge was inserted into the breech block. Pulling the lanyard tripped a hammer that fired the primer, detonating the propellent and sending the shell on its way.

Gary

 

[woodenwarriors]

Thanks Gary
I was curious about that all the pictures I have seen of this the wheels were still attached. The directions that came with the gun showed it with them removed in the firing position. My brother and I discussed that thanks for the great info.
Have you bought one of these yet?
The 8 inch gun is exactly like the long tom except they made the barrell shorter more bang for the buck I guess.
Wish they would make the prime mover also.
Have Fun
Charlie

 

[woodenwarriors]

PS - for anybody who might want to show these guns in "action" - no brass cartridges. Both the 155mm (gun and howitzer) and 8"howitzer were "bag" guns. The projectile was placed in the chamber, rammed tight and then a bag of propellant would be inserted. A primer, about the size of a .30cal cartridge was inserted into the breech block. Pulling the lanyard tripped a hammer that fired the primer, detonating the propellent and sending the shell on its way.

Gary

Thanks seargeant major looks like I goofed all the way around. Will have to see if I can create some projectiles and propellent bags to set beside this piece.
Charlie

 

[modwalls]

Charlie, great pics, I like how you combine old with new. Binder, great history, I had no idea of that info either. Charlie, the missle do look cool, the Timmee converts look great. Looks like a great bang for the buck, just had to say that, Mike

 

[The Lt.]

They are some of the nicest pieces that 21C has done yet!

By the way, in "field position" the bogies stayed attached to the gun mount. The gun was lowered to the ground via screw jacks on the bogies. The bogies (the 4-wheel unit) didn't get removed from the gun. The limber (the 2-wheel dolly) DID get pulled out of the way, but stayed close enough that the gun could be moved. I think the "official" time to get a 155mm gun into action was about an hour (I'm working just from memory here - I haven't read the FM in a long time).

Gary

As a former XO of a 155mm gun battery if it took me an hour to get a piece into action by butt woud be in a sling. I've had my 1st round fired in less than 20 mintues from the hip once my guns where dropped in place if my memory's correct it's been over 40 year since my las hip shoot....The Lt.

 

[woodenwarriors]

As a former XO of a 155mm gun battery if it took me an hour to get a piece into action by butt woud be in a sling. I've had my 1st round fired in less than 20 mintues from the hip once my guns where dropped in place if my memory's correct it's been over 40 year since my las hip shoot....The Lt.

Any Idea where I could find a picture of the projectile and powder charge ? Would like to build some to go with these. How about the Vehicle that pulled them what were they called. Guess i could do a google search .
Thanks guys
Charlie

 

[binder001]

1) Lt. - thanks for the info on time to emplace. You have the actual experience, where I just read the books. My dad was a "redleg" but he was in 105's, then went to Ordnance.

2) The two authorized towing vehicles during WW2 were the M4 18-ton High Speed Tractor and the Mack model NO 7 1/2- ton 6X6 truck. That goes for both the 155 gun and 8" howitzer.

3) Yes, it is quite correct for the guns to share the common carriage. The US Army planned it that way.

4) Here's a photo of an 8" howitzer in a park in Pierce, NE. I find it unusual as the Nebraska National Guard never used 8" howitzers, so it must have come by a different route.

 

[binder001]

Any Idea where I could find a picture of the projectile and powder charge ? Would like to build some to go with these. How about the Vehicle that pulled them what were they called. Guess i could do a google search .Thanks guys Charlie

I did a quick search and here's the ammo for a 155 gun. Note the lifting ring, this was unscrewed and replaced with a detonating fuze before firing. Lt. could probably describe the process better as he was involved with the real deal.

The HE shell would have been Olive Drab with a copper rotating ring and the fuze a metallic (silver) color.

Gary

 

[woodenwarriors]

Seargeant Major and Lt. Thank you very much very helpfull and interesting. I can produce these from a dowell just have to work the scale out.
Thanks again guys. Have saved the pic. on my computer and will do some more research on the ammo and the tow vehicle.
Charlie

 

[gk5717]

Your not alone Woodenwarriors. I also followed the directions and the piece did not look right without the wheels. I then attached them and wa la, now everything came into place.
Gary

 

[binder001]

Attached here is a photo from Korea in 1951. I had to resize it to post on the forum, but in the larger version one can see that the wheels are not in contact with the ground.

 

[gk5717]

Just read on another board that 21st Century also has a camoflauged version of the cannons. Binder I guess that would be accurate?
Gary