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With which he kicked Napoleons A*** at Waterloo!!!:D(sorry Ron couldn't resist that one!)

Rob
 
Rob said:
With which he kicked Napoleons A*** at Waterloo!!!:D(sorry Ron couldn't resist that one!)

Rob
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Just a wonder if ? If the Prussians had not shown up on Nappy's flank, we might be saying Wellington who? Also, it seems those nasty old Prussians never ever get any credit for saving Wellington's royal arse at Waterloo...Why is that? Michael
 
maddadicus said:
Just a wonder if ? If the Prussians had not shown up on Nappy's flank, we might be saying Wellington who? Also, it seems those nasty old Prussians never ever get any credit for saving Wellington's royal arse at Waterloo...Why is that? Michael
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Michael

Thank You and you are right - it seems to be a little British Chest Thumping without any credit to those nasty Prussinas who didnt understand they were suppose to run to Berlin :rolleyes:

The other thing which is interesting - they seem to want to talk only about Waterloo - for getting all the other Great Battles on the Continent of Europe which them shaking in there boots for years. :D
 
maddadicus said:
Just a wonder if ? If the Prussians had not shown up on Nappy's flank, we might be saying Wellington who? Also, it seems those nasty old Prussians never ever get any credit for saving Wellington's royal arse at Waterloo...Why is that? Michael
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Not to mention the fact that Waterloo was a desperation battle to try to defeat the allies in detail before they could unite against him and outnumber him 10 to 1, so he had to attack on ground of Wellington's choosing, giving Wellington every advantage.

Napoleon's defeat should really be credited to (1) Field Marshall Winter in Russia and (2) some dowdy Spanish peasants who invented the concept of "guerilla" tactics. No offense to Wellington, or Blucher (the unsung hero of Waterloo), who were great generals, but I don't think they would have had a snowballs chance in hell against the Napoleonic forces from say Austerlitz or Jenna.
 
Capitolron said:
Michael

Thank You and you are right - it seems to be a little British Chest Thumping without any credit to those nasty Prussinas who didnt understand they were suppose to run to Berlin :rolleyes:

The other thing which is interesting - they seem to want to talk only about Waterloo - for getting all the other Great Battles on the Continent of Europe which them shaking in there boots for years. :D
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I think if you asked any person anywhere in the world who isn't a Napoleonic fan which was the most important/famous battle Napoleon was involved in you would be deafened by the reply.Clue; we named a Train station after it:D

Rob
 
No question the British are greatful for Waterloo - or they would be speaking French right now....:eek::eek::eek:
 
Capitolron said:
Michael

Thank You and you are right - it seems to be a little British Chest Thumping without any credit to those nasty Prussinas who didnt understand they were suppose to run to Berlin :rolleyes:

The other thing which is interesting - they seem to want to talk only about Waterloo - for getting all the other Great Battles on the Continent of Europe which them shaking in there boots for years. :D
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The British fought a little unknown campaign in Spain and Portugal called the Peninsular War!

Jeff
 
I agree, and what everyone seems to overlook is that it was when Kaiser Bill threw a tantrum that the Brits and Germans started off...........before then for centuries we have been natural allies in all sorts of wars, for example - 1600's 30 years war, early 1700's 7 years war (against the French again - e.g Minden (in Germany) - first time infantry stopped cavalry?) and of course all through the alliance changes in the nearly 25 years of the Napoleonic war.

Even our Royal family are actually Gotha Saxe Coburg until that became embarrassing......and there are the small matters of the Angles, Saxons and Jutes..
 
Capitolron said:
No question the British are greatful for Waterloo - or they would be speaking French right now....
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At the risk of appearing a little argumentative, I don't agree. En garde,,,:eek:

Even if Napoleon had won at Waterloo there was still the Channel, the Royal Navy and the vastly overstretched French resources after 25 years of unsuccessful warfare against a much larger alliance - the comparison is much more with the Battle of the Bulge in WW2 than the 1940 Ardennes offensive.;)

He had already lost the war and would lose again - the British talking up the victory into win or lose was probably much more to do with internal politics and the horrible inequalities in Britain at the time.:mad:

BTW, any upper class Brit of the day would already speak French fluently and the rest couldn't even write or read English.

Take that you frenchies - your mother was a hen and whoever was your father drank elderberries in garlic.:D Ni!
 
panda1gen said:
At the risk of appearing a little argumentative, I don't agree. En garde,,,:eek:

Take that you frenchies - your mother was a hen and whoever was your father drank elderberries in garlic.:D Ni!
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Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. Now go away or I will taunt you a second time!
 
Louis is a student of our comedy heritage:D

Rob
 
panda1gen said:
At the risk of appearing a little argumentative, I don't agree. En garde

Even if Napoleon had won at Waterloo there was still the Channel, the Royal Navy and the vastly overstretched French resources after 25 years of unsuccessful warfare against a much larger alliance - the comparison is much more with the Battle of the Bulge in WW2 than the 1940 Ardennes offensive

He had already lost the war and would lose again - the British talking up the victory into win or lose was probably much more to do with internal politics and the horrible inequalities in Britain at the time

BTW, any upper class Brit of the day would already speak French fluently and the rest couldn't even write or read English.

Take that you frenchies - your mother was a hen and whoever was your father drank elderberries in garlic.:D Ni!
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LOL :D

I guess we could play "what if" all day long - however, I really believe that had Wellington lost at Waterloo.....the british government at the time would have had a political change and probally sued for peace - due to the state of affairs with the English economy at that time.

Wellington also was not in the best position early in the 100 DAYS Campaign - Napoleon had popped him (and the Prussians) good at couple nights before Waterloo. He (Wellington) was very good field commander and had chosen a good site for a major battle - but, if Napoleon had Wellington alone that day - well..hehehehe - VIVA LA EMPERUER :eek:

You brits should be very thankful for your Prussian friends :rolleyes: ;)
 
Capitolron said:
LOL :D

I guess we could play "what if" all day long - however, I really believe that had Wellington lost at Waterloo.....the british government at the time would have had a political change and probally sued for peace - due to the state of affairs with the English economy at that time.

Wellington also was not in the best position early in the 100 DAYS Campaign - Napoleon had popped him (and the Prussians) good at couple nights before Waterloo. He (Wellington) was very good field commander and had chosen a good site for a major battle - but, if Napoleon had Wellington alone that day - well..hehehehe - VIVA LA EMPERUER :eek:

You brits should be very thankful for your Prussian friends :rolleyes: ;)
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Dear Ron,

We are in danger of having a severe agreement about our Prussian friends, and my point was they had almost always been our friends, unlike the French until the 'Entente Cordiale', later in the 19th century.

Even if they had been defeated, the war would have gone on and the Coalition was always bigger than France alone so in a war of attrition France was always going to lose. The fact that France did lose despite such brilliant generalship proves the point.

No different than any other empire. Also a point of principle going forward for the USA, as Russia, China, India and Brazil overtake the G6 later this century? Keep up the diplomacy.;)
 
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