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Mike57

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Just finished painting this Six Pounder and crew, cannon is made by Barzso and the figures are by Conte.

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Superb finish as usual Mike!......really like the cannon. {bravo}}

Jeff :salute::
 
Another fine example of your painting skills.The gun is very well done.The barrel is most realistic.I am not familiar with either Barzso or Conte plastic figures,but I imagine they are 54mm? Your painting really brings these figures to life.Again,well done that man.
 
The hard part is getting the man thumbing the vent in there. I haven't figured it out yet with my Alamo gun crew.



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farmertony said:
Another fine example of your painting skills.The gun is very well done.The barrel is most realistic.I am not familiar with either Barzso or Conte plastic figures,but I imagine they are 54mm? Your painting really brings these figures to life.Again,well done that man.
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Many thanks for your kind comments. Yes all 54mm.
Mike
 
Scott said:
I haven't found a cannon that fits the figure. I guess I need Mr. Conte's offering.
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I was always curious that Conte made alamo cannon crew figures, but not the actual cannon, never seen one. !
 
CHuDWah said:
What's the guy in the blue vest doing? Maybe supposed to be holding onto a wheel, manhandling the piece?
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Not exactly sure, I think he's just in mid move, as you suggest manhandling the piece into position.
 
Mike57 said:
Not exactly sure, I think he's just in mid move, as you suggest manhandling the piece into position.
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Try putting "blue vest" and "green shirt" on the left side of the gun. They act at the #5 man bringing the shot from the limber chest and # 2 man who places the shot on the muzzle. #5 passing to # 2. artillerycrewpositions.gif

If the Alamo men drilled more to the earlier drill (makes sense) "green shirt" is # 4 servant ammunition man and "blue vest" is # 1.
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As it's unlikely the Alamo men had limbers, what ever magazine they used would be "green shirt's" position.
 
Mike57 said:
I was always curious that Conte made alamo cannon crew figures, but not the actual cannon, never seen one. !
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I think it was a garrison carriage and a Rev War era field piece. I can't find an image all the men in that set at a gun.
 
Yeah, after I posted, it occurred to me that blue-vest might be receiving the round from green-shirt. Course, the diagrams show regulation crews, which weren't always available in the field (or included in toy soldier sets) - sometimes crew members had to double-up on their tasks.

A bit off-topic but my understanding relative to the first diagram is the team made a 180-degree turn when bringing the piece onto the field, the gun was unhitched, the limber was withdrawn some distance, and the horses were unhitched and withdrawn. But here's something I've never understood...the limber was turned back 180 degrees. I've heard that was to lessen the chance of an errant spark from the gun igniting the ammunition, although I can't see that would make much difference. But it would take more time to turn the limber before putting the gun into action and to turn it again before hitching the piece to withdraw it. It also meant a round had to be carried a bit farther to the gun.


Scott said:
Try putting "blue vest" and "green shirt" on the left side of the gun. They act at the #5 man bringing the shot from the limber chest and # 2 man who places the shot on the muzzle. #5 passing to # 2. View attachment 178404

If the Alamo men drilled more to the earlier drill (makes sense) "green shirt" is # 4 servant ammunition man and "blue vest" is # 1.
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As it's unlikely the Alamo men had limbers, what ever magazine they used would be "green shirt's" position.
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CHuDWah said:
Yeah, after I posted, it occurred to me that blue-vest might be receiving the round from green-shirt. Course, the diagrams show regulation crews, which weren't always available in the field (or included in toy soldier sets) - sometimes crew members had to double-up on their tasks.
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During my thirteen years in the US Army Field Artillery I worked three different gun systems - the M110 8-inch howitzer SP, the M114 155mm How, towed; and the M102 105mm How, towed (my personal favorite) - I don't ever remember having a full section to man those guns - but we made do as you said. Add to the shortage of personnel, troops detached for perimeter guard and other tasks and it put us even more short-handed. The only guys we really needed other than the Chief, Gunner, and A/G out of an authorized 10-13 man crew were two to three men to handle the ammo and an RTO.

After Gallant Eagle 82, which was the worst parachute disaster in 82nd Abn history some of our gun crews were down to two or three men due to injuries. They still did the job for an almost two week exercise.

I hope this adds some perspective.
 
Oldallamerican said:
During my thirteen years in the US Army Field Artillery I worked three different gun systems - the M110 8-inch howitzer SP, the M114 155mm How, towed; and the M102 105mm How, towed (my personal favorite) - I don't ever remember having a full section to man those guns - but we made do as you said. Add to the shortage of personnel, troops detached for perimeter guard and other tasks and it put us even more short-handed. The only guys we really needed other than the Chief, Gunner, and A/G out of an authorized 10-13 man crew were two to three men to handle the ammo and an RTO.

After Gallant Eagle 82, which was the worst parachute disaster in 82nd Abn history some of our gun crews were down to two or three men due to injuries. They still did the job for an almost two week exercise.

I hope this adds some perspective.
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The Conte crew might represent the Alamo men working in the extreme. There is a case (Off the top of my head w/o citation) of an Indian war battle with a mountain howitzer crewed by one man.
 
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