Any Info Input About Stadden (2 Viewers)

[Cardigan600]

Yo Troopers, anyone one have any info about Stadden. Its great when you buy something that you have never owned before, then you start to look into all the pros & cons of it.IE: Bought the 1970s Queens Own Hussar Drum Horse yesterday (see Britains thread), and noticed in their description that it was painted at Stadden Studios, not the later TKS painted model. So not being that knowledgeable about Toy Soldiers as some of you guys who have been collecting a long time, I decided to make some enqueries today as to who were TKS. It turns out that they are a group called Toye, Kenning, & Spencer, and if my info is right that they own Stadden. This really surprised me because I was looking at the Stadden site last week and it seemed to me that it was still run by the Stadden family. So if I had gone ahead and bought the Drum Horse today from the site at £615.00 painted, I would have been totally mislead that I was buying a Chas Stadden piece, but in theory its a company that now own Stadden and just using the name. If I am wrong about this OK its down to ignorance of the fact, but if my info is correct, I think these points should be made clear to the buyer. Would like to hear your thoughts on this subject Troopers.
Bernard.

 

[theBaron]

Hi, Bernard,

As far as I know, Charles Stadden remained associated with Tradition right up to his passing, and they hold the molds and any rights to produce his figures. However, that wouldn't rule out that he made other figures on commission for other clients, or otherwise outside the relationship with Tradition. I know that Tradition's catalog encompasses several different sculptors, too.

If TKS can show the provenance, that, as I suggested above, this was a commission for Stadden, it would seem reasonable enough.

I'd have to look through my materials at home, to be able to say anything more specific or with more authority behind it.

Prost!
Brad

 

[trooper]

Chas Stadden originally produced figures under the name Chas Stadden Miniatures. This company was taken over by Norman Newton Ltd (later Tradition) Chas continued making masters for Tradition and at the same time accepted commissions from other companies (including Airfix). He later started producing figures under the banner of Chas Stadden Studios which was later taken over by Toye, Kenny and Spencer. All of TKS figures are genuine Staddens.

 

[theBaron]

Thanks for the clearer info, Trooper! And Trooper Bernhard, sounds like you have made a decent catch there, with that figure!

Prost!
Brad

 

[Cardigan600]

Chas Stadden originally produced figures under the name Chas Stadden Miniatures. This company was taken over by Norman Newton Ltd (later Tradition) Chas continued making masters for Tradition and at the same time accepted commissions from other companies (including Airfix). He later started producing figures under the banner of Chas Stadden Studios which was later taken over by Toye, Kenny and Spencer. All of TKS figures are genuine Staddens.

Yo Trooper & Brad, thanks for the input guys. Vectis as you know are well rated in the Toy World for their expertise, and seem to think that a original Chas Stadden Studio painted model is rated a lot higher than one painted today by TKS. Also Chas Stadden only made one Drum Horse the QOH, so does that tell you something, we were the cream of the Cavalry So that will do for me my son lol.
Bernard.

 

[trooper]

Yo Trooper & Brad, thanks for the input guys. Vectis as you know are well rated in the Toy World for their expertise, and seem to think that a original Chas Stadden Studio painted model is rated a lot higher than one painted today by TKS. Also Chas Stadden only made one Drum Horse the QOH, so does that tell you something, we were the cream of the Cavalry So that will do for me my son lol.
Bernard.

I had the privilege of knowing and working with Chas, and he was, and in my opinion still is, head and shoulders above the rest. An extraordinary talent, he sculpted in metal and in wood, painted in oils and watercolours, wrote books and was one of the most informed historians of the British army. He was a gentleman and a gentle man. Our world was lessened by his passing. Vectis is quite right, a Stadden Studios figure would have been produced and passed by the eye of the man himself.

 

[Leadmen]

Interesting discussion about Stadden. I enjoy his books and other materials. I have about five Staddens. One large 90mm and four 54mm which he signed. Leadmen

 

[Leadmen]

Rear view of figures.

 

[Leadmen]

Stadden autograph on base bottom. Is that one he painted personally? John

 

[trooper]

Hi John,
The four 54mm figures are standard Tradition figures with their distinctive tin bases with clipped corners. However the painting style is not that of their commercial painters. Although the signature is very similar to that of Chas I doubt if they were painted by the man himself. Chas normally animated any figures he worked on himself and presented them in a more involved position and usually on a small wooden base with groundwork. In my opinion they are commercial figures which have been purchased and painted by a collector. The 90mm figure looks like a standard Tradition piece. Alan

 

[Leadmen]

Thanks Alan: I bought the four 54mm figures at the Military Miniature Society of Illinois Show years ago. The larger figure I bought at a antique shop.The close up painting on the 54mm figures was not done by a amateur hobbyist. Someone in Tradition must have painted them.. Three figures are painted better then the ranger figure. Thanks. John

 

[Artillery_crazy]

Any Info Input About 54 mm Stadden or Lasset figures ?

Hi All,
I am looking for 54mm STADDEN and LASSET figures from the period late Victorian to WW2, in case you have or knows someone that has sets from these periods please advise me via a pvt note. I would be interested in purchasing them.
Best Regards,

Luiz aka Artillery_Crazy

 

[Mirof]

The story and life of Charles C. Stadden here
http://www.acstadden.co.uk/Pages/CCStadden.aspx

in the 60ies ( studio painted )


He worked a lot for Tradition of London 1000nd of models( still existing )
http://www.traditionoflondon.com/


There was also a range in kit form under the name Standish 1970 - 1972 delivered as they came from the molds ( on sprue )

Better view in my Nostalgia compilation essai in PDF from
http://www.traditionoflondon.com/
at the same place a complete catalog Stadden Studio

And again is range 80mm in Pewter ( this one painted by me in the early 80ies )


Enjoy

 

[Artillery_crazy]

Hi Mirof,

Thank you very much for the wealth of details related to Stadden and the current options for items still being produced.
I have already checked them and seen some interesting sets.....
Having said that I still wish to tap into the series that Staden used to issue in the past, it seems that not all are present in Traditions offerings .....:salute::
Will keep them as source and will keep an eye for any one wishing to part with some of their late 1989 - WW2 period sets....painted or not..

Cheers

Luiz

The story and life of Charles C. Stadden here
http://www.acstadden.co.uk/Pages/CCStadden.aspx

in the 60ies ( studio painted )
View attachment 151984

He worked a lot for Tradition of London 1000nd of models( still existing )
http://www.traditionoflondon.com/


There was also a range in kit form under the name Standish 1970 - 1972 delivered as they came from the molds ( on sprue )
View attachment 151987
Better view in my Nostalgia compilation essai in PDF from
http://www.traditionoflondon.com/
at the same place a complete catalog Stadden Studio

And again is range 80mm in Pewter ( this one painted by me in the early 80ies )
View attachment 151985 View attachment 151986

Enjoy

 

[Artillery_crazy]

A few more Stadden sets.....thanks to Obee.....

 

[Artillery_crazy]

A few more STADDEN joining the troops.....in the WW1 Slide there are 3 Hope and one unknown Russian manufacturer that made a nice British officer

 

[Artillery_crazy]

A rare to find 40 pdr British siege gun manned by a garrison of Charles Stadden Royal Artillery......Manning the 40 pdr - Tradition of London artillery piece...great set...
We normally see it being limbered up on a Mountford version or limbered and being dragged along.....Well now, thanks to Obee we have it in action!
Cheers A_C

 

[Artillery_crazy]

 

[Artillery_crazy]

Hi All,
Fresh from the troop ship coming from down under the latest Jock Battalion has arrived, this time with the HQs officers.
Along the marching contingent and officers, Obee also sent me a squad ready to repel an assault to the square section allotted to the Scot´s to hold while their Sgt has some time to enjoy his pipe....
This Stadden Scottish Regiment now taking form has grown substantially these months thanks to Obee´s great expertise and dedication...Without Obee, these over 30 years old sets would be sitting lost at the Virginian fair from which they were rescued and given new life in the New World.......
Pitty I do not have pics of what these sets looked like when I bought them...with no lick of paint and just a grey prime over them all...no wonders they were hard to spot....But a keen eye always has a chance to scoop a treasure trove.
Of all these sets, considering that the whole contingent of around 84 soldiers between officers and rank and file....Obee is gradually painting them and 35 are now ready... and as he goes along some rank and file is given a promotion to Sgt and Corporals so as to develop a real sense of working Battalion...Other than the great luck of literally tripping over the box they were in at the fair, what is more remarkable ( on top of Stadden Scots are rare to find ) were the set of officers...one even with a Glenmore broad sword drawn out ready to slash in half a Fuzzy Wizzy that by fate crossed his path...
To be fair there are two Tradition From London in the group, just to show how these two brands complemented each other, they blend very well indeed...
More to come.....And looking forward to taking pics of the whole Battalion together in field maneuvers soon....
Cheers
Artillery_Crazy

 

[DMNamiot]

Very lucky find!