Any updates on "The last full measure"? (2 Viewers)

I thought Duvall played an awful part, Sheen was 10,000 times better as Lee than Duvall was.

Daniels stole the show as Chamberlain; the 20th Maine Little Round Top battle scene was incredible. Their doomed assault in G & G was first rate IMO, as was the entire Fredericksburg battle scene. The rest of the movie was a snooze fest...........
 
Yes the Fredericksburg scenes were OK. The shots of Union Troops coming into Fredericksburg were very effective as they shot them in Harpers Ferry which is like a museum of period buildings. If Peter Jackson could make fantasy battles look real, it was too bad the technology wasn't used in G&G for the big battle scenes.
 
I have a nomination for worst scene/moment in G&G, and possibly any movie. The scene with the southern USO show that has Gen. Lee clapping and singing along with the boys. I feel safe in believing that no such occurrence could have ever taken place. I know I mentioned this scene in a prior thread many moons ago but I just can't get past it when talking about G&G. -- lancer
 
Wow! Pin me down! Looked like Confederate apologist "stuff" like the "1000s of Blacks that fought for the Confederacy" story. OK?
 
That was Harry McCarthy and his wife Lottie Estelle.

"Harry McCarthy was born in 1834 in Brussels, Belgium, where he became a variety entertainer and comedian in the mid 19th century. In 1861 he wrote the song "The Bonnie Blue Flag," about the unofficial first Confederate flag, using the tune from "The Irish Jaunting Car." The song was extremely popular, rivaling "Dixie" as a Confederate anthem. The song lost some of its popularity when, late in the war, McCarthy left the South for Philadelphia, Pennsylvania."

Link to the clip.....Look for Ted Turner and Sen. George Allen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0_8dnMIg5I
 
Wow! Pin me down! Looked like Confederate apologist "stuff" like the "1000s of Blacks that fought for the Confederacy" story. OK?
Ah well, I am afraid that is history, as is the fact that many so called slaves did in fact have much affection for their so called masters. There is nothing apologist about that. It is a pity that facts get overlooked by pre-conceptions.
 
Ah well, I am afraid that is history, as is the fact that many so called slaves did in fact have much affection for their so called masters. There is nothing apologist about that. It is a pity that facts get overlooked by pre-conceptions.

What's a "so-called slave?" We really don't know for sure about Sally Hemming. Self interest and survival is more like it.

There were a some cooks and servants and ditch diggers in the CSA. Some were photographed in uniforms. There was the small unit in Richmond at the end of the war.
 
What's a "so-called slave?" We really don't know for sure about Sally Hemming. Self interest and survival is more like it.

There were a some cooks and servants and ditch diggers in the CSA. Some were photographed in uniforms. There was the small unit in Richmond at the end of the war.
Seems your research is different than mine mate. Best not to let labels confuse the issue, they are simple to apply, more difficult to justify.;)
 
Ah well, I am afraid that is history, as is the fact that many so called slaves did in fact have much affection for their so called masters. There is nothing apologist about that. It is a pity that facts get overlooked by pre-conceptions.

I am not a psychiatrist, but I would think that most of the slaves who fought for their Masters would be suffering from "Stockholm Syndrome". Of course there are limited examples of slaves fighting for the South, but the vast majority when given a choice would fight for the North and did fight for the North or they would escape to Union lines when given the opportunity. I believe that at the end of the war there were over 100,000 "Blacks" in the Union Army.
 
I am not a psychiatrist, but I would think that most of the slaves who fought for their Masters would be suffering from "Stockholm Syndrome". Of course there are limited examples of slaves fighting for the South, but the vast majority when given a choice would fight for the North and did fight for the North or they would escape to Union lines when given the opportunity. I believe that at the end of the war there were over 100,000 "Blacks" in the Union Army.
I freely agree that you are not a psychiatrist, nor I suspect a psychologist and even if you were that would not qualify you or me to diagnose patients that you could not meet, much less interview.;) I would also observe that there was much more to being a black soldier in the Union Army than is portrayed by Glory.
 
I freely agree that you are not a psychiatrist, nor I suspect a psychologist and even if you were that would not qualify you or me to diagnose patients that you could not meet, much less interview.;) I would also observe that there was much more to being a black soldier in the Union Army than is portrayed by Glory.

I know it is off the topic of movies, but if the freed slaves were interviewed and analyzed by psychcologists (using today's knowledge and understanding of behaviours) after the war it would have been interesting study.

Now back to the topic of the thread, I wish they would produce "The Last Full Measure" in the style of Gettrysburg and not G&G. A made for TV Movie might work better than a movie version, but it probably would not be financially viable. I agree with most of the comments here that the acting in G&G was over acted and preachy (a word). Although, the Union charge at Fredericksburg made sitting through the rest of the movie bearable.
 
I also liked the Fredericksburg assaults except I almost missed them because of Jeff Daniels horrendous speech prior to the attack. Laughing too hard. Those writers should be shot. -- lancer
 
I would love to see the footage shot in Antietam - G&G made a huge mistake leaving that out of the film.

Oh and that footage with the little girl and Jackson - Yawn.

Anyone who is a Southern think Sheen was a good Lee ? Just wondering - we got the Yankee votes ;) Sheen is a disgrace IMHO.
 
Ron - I count myself as Southern, and as I mentioned earlier in this thread, I liked Sheen. I would have preferred to see Duvall run with the part but with the results from G&G, maybe not. The writing for G-burg was far superior so maybe Duvall could have done well, but Sheen got it and I believe he did alright. I liked his exchange with Stuart and his seen when Longstreet tried to pass on the third day assault assignment. I thought his interpretation of Lee could have used more "fire" but I still liked it. JMO. -- lancer
 
Labels? Research? It's bad movie that just let's some folks feel "comfortable."
 
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