"Are you as good as the Kentucky National Guard" - Aussie General to Officer Cadets. (1 Viewer)

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"Are you as good as the Kentucky National Guard" - Aussie General to Officer Cadets.

Hi Guys,
I have just been reading a book by MAJGEN Jim Moylan (retired) of the Australian Army. He served as Chief of Operations in Iraq under General Casey in Iraq in 2004/05. He was in charge of planning the first election.

He mentioned an ambush of a convoy in Iraq in great detail. It involved a convoy of 30 trucks that was ambushed and the subsequent counter attack by 9 MP's and a medic in 3 Humvee's (under call sign Raven 42, 617th MP Co, Kentucky National Guard, assigned to the 503rd MP Bn (Fort Bragg), 18th MP Bde).

He particularly mentioned the fact all three vehicles had the same weapons and equipment and that they and the spare ammo were located in the same position in each vehicle. Each team member was trained in all the weapons with one new member trained the day before. This was important to their success.

I had not heard of this incident before but a quick Google seach revealed it was well reported upon in the USA.

A detailed after action report can be found at
http://www.blackfive.net/main/2005/03/after_action_re.html

(some of the comments below the AAR are also interesting).

and details of the subsequent medal awards (3 Silver Stars, 3 Bronze Stars, Purple Hearts and Army Commendation Medals) and group photo can be found at
http://thedonovan.com/archives/004161.html

plus there are multiple others sites that mention it.

MAJGEN Moylan ended the story by saying that everytime he speaks to young Australian officer cadets he mentioned this story and emphasised that the MP"s were part time soldiers. He is a former Commandant of Duntroon (the Australian West Point). He challenges them as young professional full time soldiers with the closing
line "Are you as good as the Kentucky National Guard".

Recently there has been much debate in Australia about women in combat roles and I am surprised this incident has not been mentioned as one of the Silver Stars was awarded to a female SGT.

Most US forum members may be aware of this fine action by a group of part timers but others may be interested.

Regards
Brett
 
Re: "Are you as good as the Kentucky National Guard" - Aussie General to Officer Cade

She's a hard charger- there was an excellent article about her in Soldier of Fortune magazine a couple years ago. This situation brought to the point what Iraq and Afghanistan Command have been saying since day 1- with the current situation, the "front line" is very blurry, it could very well be 100 miles in the rear area. This SGT did an awesome job. This article also points out a bigger point in that NG Command needs to perform the highest level of training because it could be their soldiers in the rear that are getting shot up!!
 
Re: "Are you as good as the Kentucky National Guard" - Aussie General to Officer Cade

The British army now relies heavily on the Territoria Army. The Iraq/ Afganistan situation caused a lot of re-thinking from high. Anyone that has been involved with the T.A will freely admit that up to 2005 there were a lot of T.A. units that acted more as a "private drinking club"! They have all been weeded out now and the T.A. is now equaly as good as the regular army but on a part time basis. As a R.E. WOII said to me "If you get served a pint, how can you tell if the barman is full or part time, as long as the jobs done right?" They are definatly doing the job right and it looks to be the same with the National Guard. Stag on!

Martin
 
Re: "Are you as good as the Kentucky National Guard" - Aussie General to Officer Cade

Considering it's been since 2003, I'd think any unit would be up snuff by now. My father would have been home from Europe and starting our family by now in that amount of time, and he was already in the Massachusetts National Guard when Pearl Harbor happened!
 

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