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Yale University has 2 recently published books that will provide very useful background information about the initial releases in the Real West series. These new figures provide an excellent opportunity to recreate the battles that took place in the 1840s involving the United States, Mexico, the newly created Republic of Texas and indigenous peoples including the Comanches.

The first is a book about those conflicts


War of a Thousand Deserts
Indian Raids and the U.S.-Mexican War
Brian DeLay


In this radically new account of America’s watershed victory in the U.S.-Mexican War, Brian DeLay uncovers the forgotten role of the Comanches and their native allies. For fifteen years, Indian raids devastated northern Mexico, precipitating key events and altering the history of the continent in enduring ways.

In the early 1830s, after decades of relative peace, northern Mexicans and the Indians whom they called “the barbarians” descended into a terrifying cycle of violence. For the next fifteen years, owing in part to changes unleashed by American expansion, Indian warriors launched devastating attacks across ten Mexican states. Raids and counter-raids claimed thousands of lives, ruined much of northern Mexico’s economy, depopulated its countryside, and left man-made “deserts” in place of thriving settlements. Just as important, this vast interethnic war informed and emboldened U.S. arguments in favor of seizing Mexican territory while leaving northern Mexicans too divided, exhausted, and distracted to resist the American invasion and subsequent occupation.

Exploring Mexican, American, and Indian sources ranging from diplomatic correspondence and congressional debates to captivity narratives and plains Indians’ pictorial calendars, War of a Thousand Deserts recovers the surprising and previously unrecognized ways in which economic, cultural, and political developments within native communities affected nineteenth-century nation-states. In the process this ambitious book offers a rich and often harrowing new narrative of the era when the United States seized half of Mexico’s national territory.

Brian DeLay is assistant professor of history, University of Colorado, Boulder. He lives in Boulder.


Reviews:

“Brian DeLay is one of the most articulate and original authors writing in the Western Americana field today.”—Howard R. Lamar, author of The New Encyclopedia of the American West


“With a good sense of drama and narrative, DeLay tells the story of how the interactions and preconceptions of Mexicans, Americans, and independent Indian tribes shaped the borderland region in ways none of the parties expected. This book will force many readers to rethink their basic assumptions about Indians as nineteenth-century political actors. This is not just the most significant work on the U.S.-Mexico War to appear in a generation, but a study with wide-ranging implications for the history of North America. Brian DeLay shows how enlightening transnational history can be when done well.”—Amy S. Greenberg, The Pennsylvania State University


“In supple prose, DeLay analyzes the interactions in the years leading up to the war among three ‘nations’—the struggling new Mexican republic, the confident and opportunistic (but also relatively new) U.S., and the older, highly dynamic peoples of indigenous America—as well as among the compellingly depicted individuals and groups that composed them.”—Margaret Chowning, University of California at Berkeley


"DeLay's*War of a Thousand Deserts*begins with a long-neglected question: what role did Indian Nations of the Southern Plains—Comanches, Kiowas, Apaches—play in the era of the U.S.-Mexican War? *His answers sweep across the borderlands in stories of violence, trauma, and the devastating cultural effects of endemic warfare on indigenous and Mexican peoples alike. A tireless researcher and gifted writer has given us a necessary, if profoundly disturbing, look at the history of our American West."—James F. Brooks, author of*Captives & Cousins: Slavery, Kinship, and Community in the Southwest Borderlands


“Brian DeLay’s compelling and well-documented narrative of a little-known subject—Indian raids into northern Mexico—offers new insights on the impact of those attacks on the affected countries and peoples.”—Pedro Santoni, author of Mexicans at Arms: Puro Federalists and the Politics of War, 1845-1848

"In War of a Thousand Deserts, Brian DeLay tells the fascinating—and long-forgotten—story of the savage, interethnic conflict between independent tribes, Mexicans, Texans and norteamericanos. . . . [DeLay] is an imaginative and resourceful researcher. . . .*Drawing on contemporary accounts by Mexicans and Texans, DeLay provides a sophisticated, speculative, and controversial account of the motivations of Indians."—Glenn Altschuler, Tulsa World
 

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The 2nd book is about the Comanches:


The Comanche Empire
Pekka Hämäläinen



This groundbreaking book uncovers the lost story of the Comanche Indians and the vast and powerful empire they built in the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries. The volume challenges the idea of indigenous peoples as victims of European expansion and offers a new perspective on the history of the colonization of North America.

Winner of the 2008 Kate Broocks Bates Award, presented by the Texas State Historical Association.

In the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries, at the high tide of imperial struggles in North America, an indigenous empire rose to dominate the fiercely contested lands of the American Southwest, the southern Great Plains, and northern Mexico. This powerful empire, built by the Comanche Indians, eclipsed its various European rivals in military prowess, political prestige, economic power, commercial reach, and cultural influence. Yet, until now, the Comanche empire has gone unrecognized in historical accounts.

This compelling and original book uncovers the lost story of the Comanches. It is a story that challenges the idea of indigenous peoples as victims of European expansion and offers a new model for the history of colonial expansion, colonial frontiers, and Native-European relations in North America and elsewhere. Pekka Hämäläinen shows in vivid detail how the Comanches built their unique empire and resisted European colonization, and why they fell to defeat in 1875. With extensive knowledge and deep insight, the author brings into clear relief the Comanches’ remarkable impact on the trajectory of history.


Pekka Hämäläinen is associate professor of history, University of California, Santa Barbara. He lives in Santa Barbara.

Reviews:


“Hämäläinen not only puts Native Americans back into the story but also gives them—particularly the Comanche—recognition as major historical players who shaped events and outcomes.”—Sherry Smith, Southern Methodist University, author of Reimagining Indians: Native Americans Through Anglo Eyes, 1880-1940

“The Comanche Empire is a landmark study that will make readers see the history of the southwestern America in an entirely new way.”—David J. Weber, author of Bárbaros: Spaniards and Their Savages in the Age of Enlightenment

“This exhilarating book is not just a pleasure to read; important and challenging ideas circulate through it and compel attention. It is a nuanced account of the complex social, cultural, and biological interactions that the acquisition of the horse unleashed in North America, and a brilliant analysis of a Comanche social formation that dominated the Southern Plains. Parts of the book will be controversial, but the book as a whole is a tour de force.”—Richard White, author of The Middle Ground: Indians, Empires, and Republics in the Great Lakes Region, 1650-1815

“The Comanche Empire is an impressive achievement.*That a major Native power emerged and dominated the interior of the continent compels a re-thinking of well worn narratives about colonial America and westward expansion, about the relative power of European and Native societies, and about the directions of change.*The book makes a major contribution to Native American history and challenges our understanding of the ways in which American history unfolded.”—Colin G. Calloway, author of One Vast Winter Count: The Native American West before Lewis and Clark
"This comprehensive history of the Comanche people treats them as an independent power rather than as victims of American westward expansion. And though Hamalainen frames his arguments within scholars' debates on proper perspectives toward the Comanche, general readers interested in the history of the Southwest will discover his to be a fascinatingly informative volume in its explanatory and narrative modes. . . . A valuable library resource for its subject."—Booklist
"Cutting-edge revisionist western history. . . . Immensely informative, particularly about activities in the eighteenth century."—Larry McMurtry, The New York Review of Books
"The Comanche Empire is a hugely important documentary survey of the Comanche Nation, as known from documentary sources between the late 17th and the late 19th centuries. . . . By removing the anthropology, material culture, and social history from this study of the Comanche, the author finds room to plunge deeply into the political archives of the time and tell the reader how Comancheria functioned as the midcontinental power brokers of the 1700s and 1800s."—Ed Baker, The Austin Chronicle
"Hämäläinen succeeds in introducing a new perspective on Southwestern history, mastering Spanish and Mexican historic resources to tell of a horse- and bison-based Comanche empire, Comanchería. . . . Enthusiastically recommended for academic and public libraries."—Library Journal
"[A] fascinating and richly detailed study."—Si Dunn, Dallas Morning News
"A fascinating new book, details [the Comanches] unusual and colorful history. . . . Hämäläinen writes well and his narrative has an infectious verve and flow. . . . His broad themes are never in doubt, and the evidence he marshals is both compelling and convincing. He has rescued the Comanches from myth and distortion and given them their due in the sprawling epic that is our American story."—John Sledge, Mobile Press-Register (AL)
 

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The 1840s style uniforms worn by the US Dragoons in the K&C series are nicely illustrated and discussed in the book:

The United States Cavalry: An Illustrated History by Gregory Urwin

Here is the plate showing those uniforms

Followed by the K&C figures

Notice the 'breed" leggings to protect the lower legs
 

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These K&C figures provide a good sequel to their Alamo series.

Wm. Hocker also makes a glossy traditional style Mexican American Wars series that covers both the Texas War of Independence in 1836 and the Mexican-American War of 1846-48.


Here is the description of the Hocker series and the US Dragoons from 1846-48


In 1835 Mexico decrees an end to the immigration of Anglos into its Texas Province, refusing the settlers demands for autonomy. The "Texian" settlers capture San Antonio and declare independence but are defeated by the Mexican Army under Santa Anna at the Alamo. A Texian force under Sam Houston then attacks Santa Anna at San Jacinto and drives him back across the Rio Grande.While the Texians proclaim their republic, Mexico continues to see Texas as a province under rebel control. In 1845, invoking America's "manifest destiny", President Polk offers statehood to the Texians, sends a force under Zachery Taylor to the Rio Grande and declares war when Mexico crosses the river in response. The US steadily pushes the Mexicans southward in several battles. A western front is begun in 1846 when Gen. Kearny subdues the lightly defended New Mexico Territory, then marches on to California to support a "bear flag" rebellion begun by freelance officer John Fremont. The US Navy under Sloat sails into California ports claiming them for the US. Resistance to the occupation by landed Mexican "Californios" is put down by Sloats' and Kearnys' forces. A third front is opened as Winfield Scott takes the coastal city of Vera Cruz, then pushes the Mexican Army in a series of battles back into Mexico City, where Santa Anna surrenders. Santa Anna is exiled. Vast areas of territory are added to the Union, including, for better or worse, the future states of California and Texas.
 

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Very much the same as the illustration in the Katcher book, too. It was noted that in 1845, the dragoons also affected wearing gold earrings, and tended to wear their hair long. The K&C figures really capture the rough look of those men, I think.

Prosit!
Brad
 
Interesting thread. I like reading about the West. Please keep on adding to the stories and the lore of the west. Thanks.
 
Cowboys and indians.What can I say here.Not my cup of tea but they look great.I read a book about indians once I think it was called LEAVE ME TO DIE AT BENDED KNEE but I can't remember . IT was a good read and a eye opener.I can see the appeal for other collectors here.Simmo.
 
Randy does a heck of a job with providing information about our toy soldiers. He is to be really commended. Maybe, in all seriousness, we should make his title Forum Historian. It would be well earned and deserved.
 
Cowboys and indians.What can I say here.Not my cup of tea but they look great.I read a book about indians once I think it was called LEAVE ME TO DIE AT BENDED KNEE but I can't remember . IT was a good read and a eye opener.I can see the appeal for other collectors here.Simmo.
Simmo, it was probably "Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee" by Dee Brown, an outstanding book about the American Indians. -- lancer
 
Randy does a heck of a job with providing information about our toy soldiers. He is to be really commended. Maybe, in all seriousness, we should make his title Forum Historian. It would be well earned and deserved.

Thanks for the compliment Brad.
Having spent my career doing research it makes it fun for me and I enjoy being able to pass on whatever I discover. Andy has definitely delved into a very interesting subject.

Randy
 
Thanks for the info about the books. I'll have to see if the local library has the "Thousand Deserts" book, that sounds like an interesting angle to North American history.

Gary B.
 
Need a little history lesson, if the Dragoons fought the Comanches would it also be correct that they probably fought the Kiowas and Apaches as well? Also at this time these tribes also did alot of fighting with the Mexicans.? Also didnt the Texas Rangers take on the Comanches as well? Looks like alot of different scenarios can evolve from this time period as well as some pretty cool personalities. Quanna Parker Geroniomo etc Any help Thanks Also when did they stop using the word Dragoons and start saying Calvary?
 
Need a little history lesson, if the Dragoons fought the Comanches would it also be correct that they probably fought the Kiowas and Apaches as well? Also at this time these tribes also did alot of fighting with the Mexicans.? Also didnt the Texas Rangers take on the Comanches as well? Looks like alot of different scenarios can evolve from this time period as well as some pretty cool personalities. Quanna Parker Geroniomo etc Any help Thanks Also when did they stop using the word Dragoons and start saying Calvary?

I believe 1850 something....change over in terms. Michael
 
Geronimo,Quanah Parker are more post Civil War.I believe the title change to Cavalry occurred just before the Civil War.Did you also know the designations Troops and Squadrons became offical in the 1880's before that it was companies and battalions.
Mark
 
Geronimo was 1880's and Quanah Parker was 1870's. In the 1850's the cavalry would be dealing with most of the well known tribes. During the Civil War, when the regular army went east. State troops such as the 6th Iowa Cavalry and freed Confederate prisoners performed duty on the frontier dealing with the Dakota, Cheyenne and Kiowa. Texas having seceded, was left to deal with the Comanche on their own.
 
This Dragoons come usually with Mounted Riflemen ( the standard bearer with yellow flag is one of them )
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I have pré-ordered the three.
 
Another group from the same period would be the Seminole wars. Very colorful natives and U.S. Infantry. And although they were out of their element chasing plains indians, Infantry had the larger presence on the plains.
 

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