Battle of Sabbath Day Point (1 Viewer)

mikemiller1955

Lieutenant General
Joined
Aug 3, 2008
Messages
17,490
here is an interesting one I stumbled on...which I'm sure many of you were already aware of...

another lopsided French victory...

The Battle of Sabbath Day Point took place on 23 July 1757, just off the shore of Sabbath Day Point, Lake George, NY and ended in a French victory.

Lieutenant-Colonel George Monro, an officer with virtually no battle experience, decided to risk a reconnaissance in force.

His plan was to gather all available boats, pack them with approximately 350 men and send them north up the lake into an area controlled by an enemy he knew little about. To command this force Monro chose Colonel John Parker of the Jersey Blues unit. It was decided to land Colonel Parker’s flotilla of men on Sabbath Day Point situated approximately 20 miles north of Fort William Henry on the west side of Lake George. On 20 July an advance party of three boats departed for the point with Parker’s main force departing in the pre-dawn hours of 21 July. The departure of the first three boats was spotted by French scouts. On 21 July a force of approximately 450 French and Indian men under the command of Ensign de Corbiere departed Fort Carillon to intercept. The French ambushed Parker’s three lead boats and while under “questioning” by Indians, the Provincials told them exactly where Parker planned to come ashore. The French trap was then set. The ambush plan was to place musket-men along the shore of the point and a flotilla of Indians in fifty canoes out of view on the opposite side of the point.

In the early morning hours of 23 July Parker’s main force approached Sabbath Day Point unaware that the French had intercepted his three lead boats and learned his plan. As Parker’s men approached the shore they noticed the three boats sent out a day ahead and assumed nothing wrong. Three decoys aided the French and Indians in springing the trap by beckoning Parker’s men towards the shore. Once within range Parker’s men came under a withering volley of musket fire from the soldiers and Indians hidden along the shore. At the same time the Indians in the canoes broke around the point and surrounded Parker’s men. The Indians jumped into the water from their canoes and sank, capsized, or captured all but two of Parker’s boats. Once in the water many of the Provincials were speared or drowned. The ensuing battle was severely one-sided as the terrified and overwhelmed soldiers surrendered almost without firing a shot. Barely 100 of Parker’s men, including Parker himself, escaped the onslaught of the French and Indians. Of Parker’s force of 350, nearly 160 drowned or were killed. The remainders were taken prisoner on their way to Fort Carillon.

In this rout, Colonel Parker lost approximately 250 men with nearly 160 men killed or drowned and the rest taken prisoner. The French reported only one man slightly wounded.



for more...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sabbath_Day_Point
 
Thanks for that link and the post Mike,

I remember reading about this. The British did so many things wrong early on in the war with major losses. It's a wonder that they ended up victorious in the end.

Matthew
 
The story of the encounter varies somewhat between writers. Steele (Betrayals of FWH) and Hughes (Siege of FWH) tell different stories that differ from the Wikki Story. Steele suggests the 22 whaleboats were traveling "together". The lead 3 boats drew some light musket fire from the western shore. The remaining boats then rushed to their assistance. As they neared the shore, the mass of hiding french/indians to the north and south of the Blues got into their canoes, and rushed them on the lake, trapping all but 4 of the whaleboats. Colonel Parker was one of those able to escape.

Reading Hughes is a tad more confusing, but Hughes suggests that Parker sent 3 boats north during the night, then another group of boats followed, and then the main party later (my estimate of 16-17 boats in main party). The first 3 boats were captured in the very early morning, then the next group of whaleboats were again captured. The captured colonials were questioned and they gave some information to the french about the purpose of the scouting mission. The french and indians then dressed up in the Blues uniform and rowed out in the captured whaleboat(s) to meet the main body which was travelling north on the lake. The disguised french/indians then spotted the main body and signaled them to follow. The main body of boats followed the disguised french/indians to the near shore. The waiting mass of french/indian then sprang the trap. A number of Indians left Montcalm's army after this feeling they had won their victory and it was time to return to their families.

Sabbath Point (July 23rd) was the immediate prelude to the Siege of Fort William Henry (August 3-9th). The reinforcement of FWH by Webb in early August was a response to the loss of the Blues. Webb's hurried leaving FWH in late July is often linked to Parker's disaster.

There were a number of other encounters between the very few remaining british whaleboats french/indians over the next two weeks. Again, mostly bad for the British and some additional boats were lost. On August 1st or 2nd, a small patrol of whaleboats (think 2 boats) from FWH was approaching a french/indian column hiding on the shoreline. A sheep in the french column "bleated out" and warned the British, who quickly changed direction and fled safely back to Fort William Henry (guys I am not fibbing about the sheep, honest ^&grin^&grin^&grin). Lets face it, this is so so Mike !!! Water, Shoreline, Boats, Indians and Sheep!!!!
 
Last edited:
The scene in the movie "Last of the Mohicans" where Magua leads a company of the 60th to FWH is the "substitute" for Sabbath Day Point massacre. Matthew your right about, how did the British win the FIW. I think in the end, they and the colonists had more lives to sacrifice than the French.
 
The scene in the movie "Last of the Mohicans" where Magua leads a company of the 60th to FWH is the "substitute" for Sabbath Day Point massacre. Matthew your right about, how did the British win the FIW. I think in the end, they and the colonists had more lives to sacrifice than the French.

Sad truth in that last sentence. Attrition by numbers. And I think the Indians were not willing to throw away their lives for the cause as much as the Europeans so there might have been a factor there as well. I am starting to read more on this era and it's battles. And it just shocks me.

Matthew
 
Not one of my horrible fibs, the sheep:

http://books.google.com/books?id=Vf...alm+and+wolfe&hl=en#v=onepage&q=sheep&f=false

Starting the bottom of page 492 - 493, but I was wrong (yet again) about the British getting away cleanly. Short fun read,. Written in 1884, and this is reflected in the tone of the text.

______________________________________

See page 484 for Sabbath Point, this closely agrees with the Wikki post

http://books.google.com/books?id=Vf...lm+and+wolfe&hl=en#v=snippet&q=parker&f=false
 
Last edited:

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top