Berlin'38 (1 Viewer)

[cantinetozzo]

Yes the Lazio fans are mostly right wing ..for my part i'm supporter of the best team in the world :AC MILAN!

 

[Evzone]

Yes, I vividly remember Paulo Di Canio making the fascist salute on being substituted in the Rome derby!

 

[cantinetozzo]

Paolo Di Canio has his ideas (one can share his views or not) but he is a great (ex) footballer and i vividly remember his fair play when he stopped the action because a player of the other team was injured..he played in the West Ham at the time and this action made him famous in the football world..by the way here in Italy we have a "world" apart..if there are people calling themselves communists (without knowing exactly what means communism) there are people too who can define themselves fascists..we experienced Fascism and there's no way it can return in Italy but we didn't experienced Communism and for a little share of the population of extreme right wing (absolutely non influent)we have many more that think that Cuba is a political paradise,and a model to follow..but i don't want to enter in politic discourses..(more than what i just entered)

 

[Evzone]

I agree with you, we stop here. Paulo is a hero, as my entire family are West Ham supporters and if there is anything us Eastenders adore is flair, panache and fairplay (as long as it doesn't cost us money!). Hows' Beckham doing??

 

[IXEC]

Wow, I had no idea there was clothing to be identify with politics.

I only remember the Mod's & Rocker's, but I didn't think of them as political.

The clothing line sounds interesting, politics aside.

 

[Evzone]

Back in the seventies and eighties the skinhead movement was infiltratred by the right wing in the UK, especially praying on disaffected youth during the recessions suffered during the Thatcher years. Skinhead fashion became synonomous with far right politics and vice-versa, ironically skinhead influences in both clothes and music could be traced to a very heavy West Indian influence from the late sixties.

During the thirties a number of race riots broke out in the East End of London between British Blackshirt fascists and the local Jewish population, many of these riots centred in the Brick Lane area, the same area the latter day Skinheads plyed their trade of racism and hatred. For many of my family watching these kids parade in the later half of the 20th century brought back painful memories of the days before WW2 and the rise of fascism across Europe. So, I quite understand, despite all the valid reasoning, of why people dislike this particular range. To me there is something particuarly vile in marching blackshirts and the swastiksa. But as I said before a good mate of mine has a superb collection of '38 and I can't help admire them but I can't have them in the house. If anything our hobby can help educate and remember such lessons fron history.

 

[IXEC]

Back in the seventies and eighties the skinhead movement was infiltratred by the right wing in the UK, especially praying on disaffected youth during the recessions suffered during the Thatcher years. Skinhead fashion became synonomous with far right politics and vice-versa, ironically skinhead influences in both clothes and music could be traced to a very heavy West Indian influence from the late sixties.

During the thirties a number of race riots broke out in the East End of London between British Blackshirt fascists and the local Jewish population, many of these riots centred in the Brick Lane area, the same area the latter day Skinheads plyed their trade of racism and hatred. For many of my family watching these kids parade in the later half of the 20th century brought back painful memories of the days before WW2 and the rise of fascism across Europe. So, I quite understand, despite all the valid reasoning, of why people dislike this particular range. To me there is something particuarly vile in marching blackshirts and the swastiksa. But as I said before a good mate of mine has a superb collection of '38 and I can't help admire them but I can't have them in the house. If anything our hobby can help educate and remember such lessons fron history.

That is very interesting Evzone, this British experience.

Does any of this apply to Peter Townsend's, " White City " album?

 

[Evzone]

Thats an interesting connection! White City and Quadrophenia proclaim working class roots and the music tries to portray the frustrations of people. I found it all too gritty. You remind me now that I haven't heard the album for years!

 

[cantinetozzo]

I agree with you, we stop here. Paulo is a hero, as my entire family are West Ham supporters and if there is anything us Eastenders adore is flair, panache and fairplay (as long as it doesn't cost us money!). Hows' Beckham doing??

I really like Beck..i didn't know him (obviously i don't know him personally) and i imagined he was like his wife , a vainglorious star , but when he was here i changed my opinion ..he is a hard working guy and i really like him!I hope he stay with us in the future and win for us..and i'm happy he returned to the national team , led by Don Fabio this time England can really be concrete and i hope (if Italy should fail , it's difficult to make a back to back) England could win the World Cup ..