Best and Worst Remakes (2 Viewers)

I like Wayne's version the best. In the re-make, all of us don't want to think that Crockett COULD HAVE POSSIBLY surrendered, because that would destroy his image to all of us "baby-boomers" that grew up during the fifties and 60's. We tend not to tinker with our childhood heroes, and if it truly happened, we will never know for sure. Bob's version gave us alot to think about, and some of the cobat scenes were very good, but I will stick with John Wayne on this one..................Stryker
 
The WayneAmo is a Classic, i did not mind the 2004 film but it could have been better.
I wonder how it would have turned out if Ron Howard had of stayed on as director :rolleyes:.

Cape fear was a good remake :)
 
I just saw on Ebay that Mexican uniforms from John Wayne's The Alamo are on sale.


The John Wayne Alamo was actually "sexier" with the cuties at the cantina and the lovely Linda Cristal.


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lancer said:
Few more to mention: The 2 versions of "All Quiet On The Western Front"; the 2 versions of "On The Beach"; 2 versions of "The Thin Red Line". I have no real criticisms here. I like all six versions of these films. All are well done. If I had to choose, I would pick the original AQOTWF because of "atmosphere". WW1 mud, trenches, etc. just looks right in black & white. I really liked the remake of OTB with Assante and Ward. Just really well done, as was the original. I quess I just liked the updated feel and the character development better. TRL is more controversial I realize, but I think the remake is one of the best war movies made. Very introspective, well acted, and some hard to beat combat scenes along with beautiful photography and music score. -- lancer
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I agree with all of that but the TRL. Of course opinions can different but I could barely manage to watch the new one once, I do not care to see it again. It is funny how one person can love a movie and another can detest it.:confused:;)
 
Could we call Dark Knight a remake of Batman with Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson? If its a yes then Dark Knight kicked the livin daylights out of its predecessor.
 
VanguardFC007 said:
Could we call Dark Knight a remake of Batman with Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson? If its a yes then Dark Knight kicked the livin daylights out of its predecessor.
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Well that is an interesting question. I found DK diverting and I love Morgan Freeman and Michael Caine but frankly I prefer the Keaton / Jack Nicholson / Kim Basinger version. Kim was a more sexy and interesting love interest by a factor of 10 and no one does crazy better than Jack.;):D
 
Spitfrnd said:
Well that is an interesting question. I found DK diverting and I love Morgan Freeman and Michael Caine but frankly I prefer the Keaton / Jack Nicholson / Kim Basinger version. Kim was a more sexy and interesting love interest by a factor of 10 and no one does crazy better than Jack.;):D
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One of my top 5 favorite movie scenes ever is Jack in A Few Good Men when he loses it.
 
Spitfrnd said:
I agree with all of that but the TRL. Of course opinions can different but I could barely manage to watch the new one once, I do not care to see it again. It is funny how one person can love a movie and another can detest it.:confused:;)
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So true. When I first saw TRL, I didn't care for it. I had seen SPR and I thought TRL suffered badly when compared to SPR. Further viewings have changed my mind, big time. While I like SPR, I find TRL to be a much deeper and impressive film. Everything from photography, musical score, and the introspective view of the characters, is IMHO, more interesting in TRL. The combat scenes in both movies are superior although the scene in TRL where the G.I.'s are crawling through that tall saw grass towards the unseen enemy had my hair standing on end. TRL and SPR are superior but different takes on war, sort of like "Platoon" compared to "Full Metal Jacket". Both great, just different. -- lancer
 
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One of my top 5 favorite movie scenes ever is Jack in A Few Good Men when he loses it.
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A classic scene from a movie made classic by Jack.

Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and curse the Marines; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a **** what you think you are entitled to.
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You can't handle the truth

And then he had quite a few in Batman

Better be sure
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Stop the presses, who is that?
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Well she is about to trade up.
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Batman... Batman... Can somebody tell me what kind of a world we live in, where a man dressed up as a *bat* gets all of my press? This town needs an enema!

Of course, it is not the line itself that makes these so classic but the way he delivers them....Here's Johnny!.....:cool::D
 
Well we have some good thoughts on this so far so I will suggest a few more. First some of the really bad remakes:

THE INVASION
With Oscar-worthy actors Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig how could this third version of 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers' lose? Despite all the reasons for success, it was downright embarrassing and certainly humbled by its predecessors.

PSYCHO
Alfred Hitchcock and Anthony Perkins made the 1960 original a pinnacle of suspense and terror and made everyone lock their bathroom doors from the inside before taking a shower. Starring Janet Leigh and Anthony Perkins. Despite the talents of Anne Heche and Vince Vaughn, the 1998 remake with was more painful than frightening.

GET CARTER
The 1971 version, directed by Mike Hodges and starring Michael Caine is one of the finest in the British gangster genre. The 2000 remake featuring Sylvester Stallone is simply a witless display of violence that itself would have been better off dead.

LOLITA
The 1962 original by Kubrick, with James Mason and Peter Sellers, was a brilliant adaption of the Vladimir Nabokov novel. The 1997 version, despite Jeromy Irons, was pitiful trash. Perhaps Adrian Lyne should have tried remaking "Eyes Wide Shut".

ROLLERBALL
The original film with James Caan and John Houseman may not be classic cinema but it did have some very well done and memorable scenes and an almost hypnotic appeal. The remake is best forgotten.

PLANET OF THE APES
Heston and McDowall made the 1968 original quite enjoyable and a bit of a cult classic B-Movie. As another example of failing with good actors, the 2001 Tim Burton version with Mark Wahlberg upgraded the special effects and downgraded everything else by a substantial margin.

THE LONGEST YARD
The 1974 version with Burt Reynolds was about as near to a classic as a movie like this could come. Not even Reynolds could save the 2004 Adam Sandler:eek: edition. OK did anyone believe Sandler as a tough Pro Quarterback?:rolleyes: Perhaps it was intended to be camp.
 
I just saw "The Taking of Pelam 123" which was excellent. I am a big fan of

John Turturro and I enjoyed him in this movie. It was a bit different then the

original which is also a great picture.

If you like John Turturro you should pick up "The Bronx is Burning" he does a

great job as Billy Martin. He also is very good in "Monday Night Mayhem"

where he plays Howard Cosell during the Monday Night Football years.
 
Then you have Laural and Hardy remaking their own movie as Legionaires, Highlanders, Doughboys, convicts.....
 
How about the remake of "Desperate Hours" with Mickey Rourke? Had quite a cast but I did not think it was as good as the original. -- lancer
 
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Spitfrnd said:
Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and curse the Marines; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a **** what you think you are entitled to
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Only Jack could be in a movie for that short amount of time and literally steal the picture. IMO, this scene, the Omaha Beach scene from SPR and the end of Planet of the Apes are right up there as three of the best of all time.....
 
Warrior said:
Only Jack could be in a movie for that short amount of time and literally steal the picture. IMO, this scene, the Omaha Beach scene from SPR and the end of Planet of the Apes are right up there as three of the best of all time.....
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Totally agree George, Jack is a master at that; remember per chance this unknown drunken lawyer in Easy Rider?;):D:cool:
 
lancer said:
How about "King Kong", a classic if ever there was one. This film has been remade twice. The first remake was the absolutely terrible version with Bridges and Lange. Boy, was it bad. The second remake, just a few years ago, with Watts and company, was a lot better than version #2, but still inferior to the feel of the original, IMO. Another story with multiple remakes has been "I Am Legend". Version #1 was "The Last Man On Earth" with Vincent Price. Version #2 was "Omega Man" with Charleton Heston. Version #3 was "I Am Legend" with Will Smith. I liked all 3 versions. Somewhat different adaptations but all well done and basically true to the book. Versions 2 & 3 kinda came up with hopeful endings but they were still good films. No real favorite there but I did like the feel of version #3. -- lancer
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Omega Man was quite good I thought!:D

But I really did like I am Lgend, apart from when the dog died:(
 
There are two Versions of 'Sahara', I think the one with Humphry Bogart is the best but:D

And there are two movies set in North Afrika during 1942 which have different names, but the exact, and I do mean exact story line!:eek::confused:

One's called Rommel's something, but I cannot remember the other one:eek:

I think one of them has the guy that played Colour Sergeant Bourne in Zulu as a Major in the British Army:)

And the story line is that there is a special group of Germans serving with the British army, who go onto a French ship and blow it up so that the French think it is the Germans who are starting a war with them, anyways:D

There is a huge gun emplacement on a coastline in North Afrika, which they must blow up, and they successfully do it, and there is loads of tanks and flamethrowers and stuff:D

Just chekced google there, one version is called 'Raid On Rommel':D

I just checked google again, the other film is caleld 'Tobruk':D

Anyone have an idea as to why these films are the same?:)
 
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