Better Call Saul (1 Viewer)

Only one episode to go! Great show. No actor is wasted. It is humorous, however, that the worst punishment that Hollywood types can envision for characters that engage in all manner of criminal conduct is that they be relegated to normal people status. Having to work regular jobs. Regular people lead impossibly boring lives and have mundane discussions that involve whether Miracle Whip is an acceptable substitute for Mayonnaise etc. Oh the humanity!
 
Did not see that ending coming...7 years to 86...Jimmy found his conscience...good ending though I guess...definitely surprising...not the way I thought it would go...very enjoyable series...one of my favorites...Odenkirk...the entire cast of characters and the writers kept me on my toes for 6 seasons...will re-watch it sometime in the future...probably right before...or right after...I re-watch Breaking Bad...now...onto House of Dragons...the prequel to Game of Thrones starting next week...
 
mikemiller1955 said:
Did not see that ending coming...7 years to 86...Jimmy found his conscience...good ending though I guess...definitely surprising...not the way I thought it would go...very enjoyable series...one of my favorites...Odenkirk...the entire cast of characters and the writers kept me on my toes for 6 seasons...will re-watch it sometime in the future...probably right before...or right after...I re-watch Breaking Bad...now...onto House of Dragons...the prequel to Game of Thrones starting next week...
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Yes, it could have ended a lot of different ways. The one enduring motif of the show was that Jimmy/Saul would never take responsibility for his actions. He was forever pulling a con and getting away with it. He ends up with some redemption at the end. It's always been interesting to me as a fan how I couldn't help but pull for and like Jimmy/Kim and Mike, even when they did the most despicable things, while disliking Chuck and Howard who mostly did the right things.
 
Combat said:
Yes, it could have ended a lot of different ways. The one enduring motif of the show was that Jimmy/Saul would never take responsibility for his actions. He was forever pulling a con and getting away with it. He ends up with some redemption at the end. It's always been interesting to me as a fan how I couldn't help but pull for and like Jimmy/Kim and Mike, even when they did the most despicable things, while disliking Chuck and Howard who mostly did the right things.
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I was really surprised at the casting of Chuck...lol...Lenny from Laverne & Shirley would not have been my choice...but he was aces in the role...Mike was also a favorite casting job...side note...Jonathan Banks is 75 years old...pretty spry for his age...I can't think of a character I didn't dislike in that show...even the evil Cartel choices were great...the Salamancos...each and every one of them were a hoot...especially Hector ringing that bell like a madman...great choices on casting...
 
mikemiller1955 said:
I was really surprised at the casting of Chuck...lol...Lenny from Laverne & Shirley would not have been my choice...but he was aces in the role...Mike was also a favorite casting job...side note...Jonathan Banks is 75 years old...pretty spry for his age...I can't think of a character I didn't dislike in that show...even the evil Cartel choices were great...the Salamancos...each and every one of them were a hoot...especially Hector ringing that bell like a madman...great choices on casting...
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Yes, this was the perfect show in many respects. The writing was fantastic. The actors were great. No storyline or actor was wasted. They had to tie the plot lines together with Breaking Bad as a prequel. No easy task. Hector's bell is up for auction at the Prop Store. That will fetch a pretty penny. My only criticism of the ending is that they broke it up into too many small segments. I enjoyed the revisiting the loops with Chuck, Mike, and Walter, though. Perfect short segways into their relationships and characters. The Jimmy/Chuck dynamic was something to behold. The classic love/hate relationship. Kim's ending should have been the walk away in the prior episode after signing the divorce papers and tossing the cigarette away in the rain. It felt a little predictable to bring her back for the last episode. The kind of typical TV event that this show most often didn't follow. But still a great show that I will miss.
 
There are a million articles on the final episode with various theories and notes about how it ties in with other episodes. Some of the more interesting ones:

1) In the final scene where Kim visits Jimmy in the prison holding cell, the scene is shot in black and white but when Kim lights the cigarette to share the flame is in color. Supposedly symbolizing a renewal of their relationship. When Jimmy takes a drag on the cig, the tip is also in color.

2) After Jimmy fires his final "finger gun" salute as Kim walks away for the final time, Kim doesn't return it. But if you look at her hand at her side, she is making a gun-like gesture. Theory is that a return of the finger gun would be reverting back to old form.

3) The copy of "The Time Machine" that Chuck carries off in the final episode ties in with the recurring theme of "regret" that comes up several times in the final episode about revisiting the past. That same book is shown being carried away by the authorities in the first episode of season six after raiding Saul's home when its significance is unclear.

4) The appearance of Chuck, Mike, and Walter in the final episode (all dead by that point) is supposed to be analogous to the three ghosts from Dickens' A Christmas Carol.

5) Saul requests mint chocolate ice cream as part of his plea deal with the authorities. In an earlier season, Jimmy is shown eating such an ice cream cone when he is abducted by Nacho to represent Lalo. The beginning of things coming unraveled for Jimmy. The cone falls to the ground and is soon occupied by a hoard of ants including one who briefly climbs to the top before being overwhelmed. Supposedly representing the fates with some coming out on top but then being dragged down again. The color green may also represent "money" and how it leads Jimmy down the path to ruin.

6) Gene/Saul's last moment of freedom is in a garbage dumpster. In an earlier season, Jimmy climbs into a garbage dumpster to retrieve some documents that proved important in a class action lawsuit kicking off his first major success as a lawyer. Coming full circle.
 
Combat said:
There are a million articles on the final episode with various theories and notes about how it ties in with other episodes. Some of the more interesting ones:

1) In the final scene where Kim visits Jimmy in the prison holding cell, the scene is shot in black and white but when Kim lights the cigarette to share the flame is in color. Supposedly symbolizing a renewal of their relationship. When Jimmy takes a drag on the cig, the tip is also in color.

2) After Jimmy fires his final "finger gun" salute as Kim walks away for the final time, Kim doesn't return it. But if you look at her hand at her side, she is making a gun-like gesture. Theory is that a return of the finger gun would be reverting back to old form.

3) The copy of "The Time Machine" that Chuck carries off in the final episode ties in with the recurring theme of "regret" that comes up several times in the final episode about revisiting the past. That same book is shown being carried away by the authorities in the first episode of season six after raiding Saul's home when its significance is unclear.

4) The appearance of Chuck, Mike, and Walter in the final episode (all dead by that point) is supposed to be analogous to the three ghosts from Dickens' A Christmas Carol.

5) Saul requests mint chocolate ice cream as part of his plea deal with the authorities. In an earlier season, Jimmy is shown eating such an ice cream cone when he is abducted by Nacho to represent Lalo. The beginning of things coming unraveled for Jimmy. The cone falls to the ground and is soon occupied by a hoard of ants including one who briefly climbs to the top before being overwhelmed. Supposedly representing the fates with some coming out on top but then being dragged down again. The color green may also represent "money" and how it leads Jimmy down the path to ruin.

6) Gene/Saul's last moment of freedom is in a garbage dumpster. In an earlier season, Jimmy climbs into a garbage dumpster to retrieve some documents that proved important in a class action lawsuit kicking off his first major success as a lawyer. Coming full circle.
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People that draw these bizarre symbolic analogies have too much time on their hands...I mean really...three ghosts from Dickens' A Christmas Carol...idle minds at work...
 
BCS has been nominated for an Emmy 39 times but has yet to win a single one. It has been nominated for seven more this season which means it could go 0-46! Unreal.
 
Combat said:
I read Odenkirk's recent book and he comes off as a bit of an unlikeable control freak/woke. Have to give him credit, though. He has had quiet a career. I didn't realize that he had been around so long. He actually wrote the Chris Farley SNL skit "in a van down by the river." The basic theme of his book was that he had failed many more times than succeeded. He hit pay dirt with "Better Call Saul." He is perfect for the role. The dilemma with Jimmy/Saul is that he is superficially charming and likeable. Everyone wants him to succeed but underneath he is always Slippin' Jimmy pulling a con. It reminds me a bit of Seinfeld and the season finale where the show basically asked the audience why they liked he characters when they were despicable people.
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And the writing is so good the dilemna over wether to root for Saul or not is a question you have yo ask towards the final season. One of the best shows ever and i will miss Jimmy / Saul
 
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