Britains at the London Toy Soldier Show 24 March 2018. (1 Viewer)

Yeah, I think the last time I saw you, was at our show, and you were graduating from VFMA? Anyway, it must have been 5 or 6 years. It's funny to hear you say,"Back when I was a kid..."

"Now, my story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say 'dickety', 'cause the Kaiser had stolen our word 'twenty'. I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles."

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Brad
 
Wow, what a time to be alive. I may try to make it to the show this year. We shall see!

By the way -- all that has happened since then is that I have 1) done a lot more reading, 2) done a bit more drinking, and 3) learned that everyone I thought knew what they were doing was just faking it. Sic vita est!
 
Joe,
On a positive note, can you tell us about your Hougoumont diorama; the layout, the size, I know you're waiting on me to get you the south gate and garden wall set from CTS, just curious is all........................


George, too bad Photobucket ate my pics. But it was in a 4'x3' box with 1"x6" side boards that had backgrounds that went around the interior. I only had the WB north gate, walls, and well pieces creating the building. Along with all the WB Brits, Nassau and French units, I included WB 4th Lancers, K&C 71st Highlanders, and First Legion Brit and French artillery.

Adding the possible CT South Gate structure will take up a lot of space, so will not include WB Lancers, the K&C, and artillery. It will change the look completely. I'll find a way to connect the walls to the WB Northgate. I'm going to have to wait on the CT structure to see how to fit everything, and might need more walls to do it. So I'll be waiting on you, while you're waiting on someone else, LOL.

Joe
 
I am still waiting for Richard Walker to restock Del Prado figures! I am sure Ken Osen will get the supply problem sorted out at WB. Patients is a virtue or so I have been told.


I have a theory..... But I won't explain . I will say this, they should have put Richard Walker in charge!
 
I am still waiting for Richard Walker to restock Del Prado figures!

Yeah that's not happening. He's doing new figures through History Works.

Richard made that pretty clear after he bought the company.
 
I am still waiting for Richard Walker to restock Del Prado figures! I am sure Ken Osen will get the supply problem sorted out at WB. Patients is a virtue or so I have been told.

If I'm not mistaken, Larry Weindorf of For the Historian bought Richard's remaining stocks of Del Prado figures and is selling them via his eBay store.

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Brar
 
If I'm not mistaken, Larry Weindorf of For the Historian bought Richard's remaining stocks of Del Prado figures and is selling them via his eBay store.

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Brar

You are not mistaken.

Larry bought the remaining stock, what little there was left of it at the time.
 
Think about how dealers are dealing with this, very frustrating when a big seller no longer is available to sell.

Another nail in the coffin for the industry as a whole. Declining number of retail outlets will simply result in yet lower sales.
 
Another nail in the coffin for the industry as a whole. Declining number of retail outlets will simply result in yet lower sales.

OR, a declining number of retail outlets means the ones who remain all sell more.

If there are 10 McDonalds in my town, each one sells a certain number of hamburgers; if 5 of them go out of business, the other 5 will all see an increase in sales as a result.

If a manufacturer slows down with their releases, collectors simply start to buy other brands, they don't stop collecting.

One manufacturers loss is the gain of the ones who remain.
 
OR, a declining number of retail outlets means the ones who remain all sell more.

If there are 10 McDonalds in my town, each one sells a certain number of hamburgers; if 5 of them go out of business, the other 5 will all see an increase in sales as a result.

If a manufacturer slows down with their releases, collectors simply start to buy other brands, they don't stop collecting.

One manufacturers loss is the gain of the ones who remain.

Not if people stop eating hamburgers and go to "chick fil a" instead. And of the five McDonald's that closed, what percentage of the hamburger sales did they control. Obviously not enough because they closed. So if their sales were low the remaining stores really wouldn't see that much of increase in sales :)
 
Another nail in the coffin for the industry as a whole. Declining number of retail outlets will simply result in yet lower sales.

Hardly. The number of collectors, and the amount of money they are willing to spend, is the decisive factor. Your reply to George's post even implies this. It's not the number of vendors; one vendor can still serve the remaining customers. But if there are no customers, eventually, then the vendors die off.

In this specific case, I don't believe that it's an indication of anything in the market, but rather, of specific issues with this particular vendor.

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Brad
 
Not if people stop eating hamburgers and go to "chick fil a" instead. And of the five McDonald's that closed, what percentage of the hamburger sales did they control. Obviously not enough because they closed. So if their sales were low the remaining stores really wouldn't see that much of increase in sales :)

The five McDonald's closed for a variety of reasons; two of the owners had enough of flipping burger, so they retired and rode off into the sunset, one owner got sick and passed away and no one in his family was interested in flipping burgers for a living and the other two both ate hamburgers at McDonalds everyday and one day decided "Hey, I eat at McDonalds so much, I should just buy a McDonalds, eat all the burgers I want at wholesale and just sell the rest"...........the problem started with the "just sell the rest" and before they knew it, they had a freezer full of hamburgers that they couldn't sell.
 
The five McDonald's closed for a variety of reasons; two of the owners had enough of flipping burger, so they retired and rode off into the sunset, one owner got sick and passed away and no one in his family was interested in flipping burgers for a living and the other two both ate hamburgers at McDonalds everyday and one day decided "Hey, I eat at McDonalds so much, I should just buy a McDonalds, eat all the burgers I want at wholesale and just sell the rest"...........the problem started with the "just sell the rest" and before they knew it, they had a freezer full of hamburgers that they couldn't sell.

But that still doesn't get us any closer to looking at their books to see what percentage of sales they were responsable for in that market :)
 
Cheeburger! Cheeburger! Cheeburger!

"Yes, I'll have a turkey on wheat with lettuce and tomatoes, some mayo, but very light, please toast the bread slightly as well, a side order of potato salad and a diet Sprite"..............."Cheeburger, chip, Pepsi".............
 
OR, a declining number of retail outlets means the ones who remain all sell more.

If there are 10 McDonalds in my town, each one sells a certain number of hamburgers; if 5 of them go out of business, the other 5 will all see an increase in sales as a result.

If a manufacturer slows down with their releases, collectors simply start to buy other brands, they don't stop collecting.

One manufacturers loss is the gain of the ones who remain.

Maybe I am not the norm collector but I wouldn't switch brands, to be honest there isn't anything that grabs my attention. I would just go and buy retired sets.
 
Maybe I am not the norm collector but I wouldn't switch brands, to be honest there isn't anything that grabs my attention. I would just go and buy retired sets.

Whilst for several years when I first started collecting, I only bought WB, but as time went by and wanting to expand on the themes that interested me I started collecting other manufacturers products. Now if it is a close fit in size,I don't worry too much. Such as the TG Royal Americans with the WB Clash of Empire figures.
Whilst I will continue to collect WB as they are released, I do think their Business plan apart from the current problem, isn't doing them any favours with their long production runs compared to others and would do better with smaller ones and by getting them to their outlets for their customers to buy and adding new figures more often.
Also at present I see so many WB figures being offered at great discount prices presumably from overstock which presumably is part of the same problem, especially when they do figures in poses that do grab much interest and which of course is not great news for those of us who paid full price.

Another problem I see is I don't think only effects WB but other manufacturers and that is of course price increases, sure inflation keeps prices rising, but the steady increase in detail to the figures, whilst as collectors are happy about this the more detail equates with higher prices on top of inflation leading, as I see it to collectors being able to buy fewer figures leaving less money for dealers to operate on and leading to their closures and loss of another outlet for the manufacturers. K&C are trying to cut prices by not adding things like backpacks to the figures which with strap details such as in their USMC line as these would be bound to take up the artists time.
On the other hand if you're doing a battle diorama say, you want some enemy figures to add. But probably don't really want to pay more for them then you do for the figures whose side you are interested in. Such as TG's Romans and Dacians. Most collectors I would think are more interested in the Roman figures than Dacians and also with Romans you might want several figures in the same pose, where as for their foes unless it is a mass battle scene you want differences in the figures and yet their Dacians are more detailed with things such as tattoos.

Of course this is all just me waffling on with the frustration we all feel when we're in the dark about things !:rolleyes2:

Steve
 
I think WB's main problem with collectors is a lack of communication. All manufacturers have production problems and delays in getting new products to market. Many questions have been asked on this forum about when preorder figures will be available and no answers have been forthcoming. Communication is essential to good customer relations and Ken Osen needs to respond or customers will cancel orders and go elsewhere. I would hate to see this happen, as I have been very pleased with the quality of the WB Fallschirmjagers and Viking figures that I collect and I hope to purchase more.
 

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