Casualties, My Thoughts (1 Viewer)

[King's Man]

While these are my thought about what would make good casualty figures, I would welcome other members to share their thoughts.

Casualty figures fall into three groups as I see it.

1.Dead: figures lying down either face up or down.

2.Figures on the ground, wounded but not dead.

3.The ones just getting shoot.

It is in the third group I would like to express my views. I would like to see one of the March Attack posed figures getting wound. The figure should show the very next position that an individual would be in if he had just been hit. That means his musket should be somewhere near the same position it would be before he was hit, at least it should be in the same hand. An even better example would be a two or three figure set. In this set the front row figures would be getting wounded and the second row figure or figures would be shown stopping his regular step to allow the front row figure to fall backwards. Having casualty figures like these would add a wonderful touch of realize to any diorama.

I realize First Legion most likely has already designed it’s forth coming figures for many months to comes. However, I can dream.

King’s Man

 

[theBaron]

Other manufacturers have included figures of soldiers at the moment of getting hit, too. Imrie-Risley include that as a standard pose in their catalog, for example. You can get the basic torso or standing figure, and then add various arms, such as a pair outstretched, with a rifle/musket in one hand.

Tradition includes "walking wounded" in its current line of British Seven-Years-War figures, but they keep their place in the rank.

You're right, there are many scenes that can be made to look more realistic and dynamic with such figures. An infantry square, for example, or just a firing line.

Prost!
Brad

 

[King's Man]

theBaron,

A recent group of casualties made by Britain of the New Jersey troops in the AWI is very well done. There is just something about including casualties that makes any battle diorama more interesting. I am sure whatever First Legion comes out with, it will be first rate.

Imrie-Risley has an extensive range of American Revolution figures. With the many different poses it is possible to show troops in many different battle formations.

The best thing about collecting First legion or any other toy soldier is that they are already painted. Imrie-Risley’s are all unpainted and I fear my painting days are over.

King's Man

PS have you read the new book out about Baron Von Steuben?

The Drillmaster of Valley Forge: The Baron de Steuben and the Making of the American Army

I just finished it and enjoyed it.

 

[FirstLegion]

While these are my thought about what would make good casualty figures, I would welcome other members to share their thoughts.

Casualty figures fall into three groups as I see it.

1.Dead: figures lying down either face up or down.

2.Figures on the ground, wounded but not dead.

3.The ones just getting shoot.

We've had a lot of requests for casualities over the last several months and let's just say that we're listening. If you look at our workbench, you can see the first of the casualty figures we've shown, a few Napoleonic Russians. We also have a new set that we haven't announced yet that has a few casualties in it as well, mostly types 1 and 2 above.

As to your point 3 above, those in the act of being shot, we have a another release in sculpting right now that will contain the first of our figures that sort of fall into this category. It's not exactly how you describe, but I think you'll appreciate it nonetheless. Of course, don't expect to see it for quite some time unfortunately as we have a lot of releases to get through...

Regards,

Matt
First Legion Ltd

 

[theBaron]

theBaron,

A recent group of casualties made by Britain of the New Jersey troops in the AWI is very well done. There is just something about including casualties that makes any battle diorama more interesting. I am sure whatever First Legion comes out with, it will be first rate.

Imrie-Risley has an extensive range of American Revolution figures. With the many different poses it is possible to show troops in many different battle formations.

The best thing about collecting First legion or any other toy soldier is that they are already painted. Imrie-Risley’s are all unpainted and I fear my painting days are over.

King's Man

PS have you read the new book out about Baron Von Steuben?

The Drillmaster of Valley Forge: The Baron de Steuben and the Making of the American Army

I just finished it and enjoyed it.

Hi, King's Man! So you recognized my avatar, eh?

Thanks for the tip about the Steuben book, I have not yet seen it, but I'll look for it this weekend at Hackensack.

Dommage about painting, I came into the hobby from scale modeling, so painting my own has always been a large part of the fun for me. IR figures are just the thing, their Revolutionary War Hessians work for Seven Years War, because their uniforms didn't change from 1756 until around 1790.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Spitfrnd]

We've had a lot of requests for casualities over the last several months and let's just say that we're listening. If you look at our workbench, you can see the first of the casualty figures we've shown, a few Napoleonic Russians. We also have a new set that we haven't announced yet that has a few casualties in it as well, mostly types 1 and 2 above.

As to your point 3 above, those in the act of being shot, we have a another release in sculpting right now that will contain the first of our figures that sort of fall into this category. It's not exactly how you describe, but I think you'll appreciate it nonetheless. Of course, don't expect to see it for quite some time unfortunately as we have a lot of releases to get through...

Regards,

Matt
First Legion Ltd

That is good news Matt. I hope we have some dead French and Brits in the near future.

 

[Capitolron]

Matt

Let me add my strong support for dead/dying troops - all the things King's Man has pointed out is very true for a realistic diorama. These are the figures which bring life to Toy Soldier Collections - kinda werid death bringing a collection to life - but, it is true.

As a diorama collector - I love having battle scenes and lots of action !

Your releases have been great ! Keep up the good work !

Ron

 

[Spitfrnd]

Matt

Let me add my strong support for dead/dying troops - all the things King's Man has pointed out is very true for a realistic diorama. These are the figures which bring life to Toy Soldier Collections - kinda werid death bringing a collection to life - but, it is true.

As a diorama collector - I love having battle scenes and lots of action !

Your releases have been great ! Keep up the good work !

Ron

"...death bringing a collection to life..." That is weird Ron but also true in this case; Warrior and poet perhaps.

 

[Spitfrnd]

We've had a lot of requests for casualities over the last several months and let's just say that we're listening. If you look at our workbench, you can see the first of the casualty figures we've shown, a few Napoleonic Russians. We also have a new set that we haven't announced yet that has a few casualties in it as well, mostly types 1 and 2 above.
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First Legion Ltd

In reviewing this thread I was reminded that the Russian casualties are not your first; of course it is this fine Wurttemberg Jaeger example

I would say you are on the right track with these and I look forward to those type 3 figures.

 

[Capitolron]

Matt

Please do consider making casualty figures for the French in the range. It would help our dioramas.

Ron

 

[FirstLegion]

Matt

Please do consider making casualty figures for the French in the range. It would help our dioramas.

Ron

No worries, Ron, it's on the radar. Moving forward, nearly all of our releases will be launched with a few casualties built into the release. This is an area where we're listening to what our customers want and making the adjustment. At some point, we do intend on going back to providing some casualties to the existing French Line Infantry as well as the British Guard Infantry. These were sculpted before we decided to put casualties in all releases. We have a release due out in April that we haven't announced yet (that is fantastic by the way!) that has no less than 4 casualty figures built in to the release. What's more, they're designed to fit nicely within the close order unit formation that we design our figures to be displayed in, not merely as something to stick out in front of some figures (i.e. they're well integrated into the overall unit theme). Once you see them, I think you'll agree that we're on the right track with this.

Regards,

Matt
First Legion Ltd

 

[Capitolron]

Matt

Great - Look forward to seeing these new figures !

Ron