Casualties (3 Viewers)

[Horus]

A Suggestion / Request for TG !

Hopefully there will be some more casualties, both dead and wounded to complement the various ranges. Personally I need Aussie ones, More Japanese ones how about with helmets next time.

Celts / barbarians. More Romans and also a Roman Medic and KGL and Prussians.

Also how about a Breakfast club / camp figures for all of the above. I think they would be popular !

Steve

 

[Obee]

Yes, I agree Steve,

I think that breakfast club should be rolled out to the Napoleonic too ... especially on a morning in June 1815

John

 

[Fitzgibbon]

Yes, I agree Steve,

I think that breakfast club should be rolled out to the Napoleonic too ... especially on a morning in June 1815

John

A fairly soggy affair John; what about July 1809?

 

[Obee]

A fairly soggy affair John; what about July 1809?

Not sure on that seeing Tom has made Prussians and KGL, as well as the Old Guard all in 1815 uniforms ...

John

 

[Naps...just Naps]

Yes, I agree Steve,

I think that breakfast club should be rolled out to the Napoleonic too ... especially on a morning in June 1815

John

Good idea John. I'd also like to see a "morning of the battle of Waterloo" series. Like the scene in the film. British and allied soldiers shaving, wringing out their soggy clothes, cooking whatever food was available and cleaning their muskets etc.

We also need some KGL and Prussian casualties.

Prussian mounted officers, flag bearers and drummers.

I know this would probably be expensive but how about a cart full of wounded British and Allied soldiers being sent back along the road to Brussels.
The starting point could be the cart and horses and the wounded could be purchased separately or in sets of two to suit the buyers budget.

 

[Fitzgibbon]

Not sure on that seeing Tom has made Prussians and KGL, as well as the Old Guard all in 1815 uniforms ...

John

Those Prussian uniforms were at Leipzig when the long drawn out Napoleonic Wars came to an end in 1813. Strange how a post script like Waterloo comes to exclusively symbolise all of that European history. Austria beat Napoleon for the first time in 1809 and again in 1813. Of course Waterloo was the first time that the British had a fighting part in defeating him but then the Napoleonic history is not British history but European history. Curious what?

 

[Johnboy]

Those Prussian uniforms were at Leipzig when the long drawn out Napoleonic Wars came to an end in 1813. Strange how a post script like Waterloo comes to exclusively symbolise all of that European history. Austria beat Napoleon for the first time in 1809 and again in 1813. Of course Waterloo was the first time that the British had a fighting part in defeating him but then the Napoleonic history is not British history but European history. Curious what?

OK......well,
The elephant in the room is an outfit called the Royal Navy. I am pretty sure they had a fighting part. At the Nile in 1798 they destroyed the French fleet and also stranded Napoleon's army in Egypt which wasted away (a smaller version of Moscow) on both occasions Nap ran off and left his army. Also Trafalgar, which basically left Nap. unable to use the sea. All of Wellingtons Peninsular victories. Some of his major battles such as Vittoria galvanised the rest of Europe who were very discouraged by then. Finally after a series of victories in Spain, Wellington then crossed the border and invaded Southern France.......if I'm not mistaken, this was all before Waterloo ?

 

[Fitzgibbon]

OK......well,
The elephant in the room is an outfit called the Royal Navy. I am pretty sure they had a fighting part. At the Nile in 1798 they destroyed the French fleet and also stranded Napoleon's army in Egypt which wasted away (a smaller version of Moscow) on both occasions Nap ran off and left his army. Also Trafalgar, which basically left Nap. unable to use the sea. All of Wellingtons Peninsular victories. Some of his major battles such as Vittoria galvanised the rest of Europe who were very discouraged by then. Finally after a series of victories in Spain, Wellington then crossed the border and invaded Southern France.......if I'm not mistaken, this was all before Waterloo ?

Hi, yes but a different room. 1798 predates Napoleon's rule of France. The only campaign fought in Spain by Napoleon as commander resulted in a British evacuation and the death of their commander. Wellington was contained in Spain by French forces until the end of the Wars.
Waterloo was a land battle of modest scale coming at the end of just 100 days of history. Ergo, a post script.

 

[Fitzgibbon]

Hi, yes but a different room. 1798 predates Napoleon's rule of France. The only campaign fought in Spain by Napoleon as commander resulted in a British evacuation and the death of their commander. Wellington was contained in Spain by French forces until the end of the Wars.
Waterloo was a land battle of modest scale coming at the end of just 100 days of history. Ergo, a post script.

My apologies,
This is probably more appropriate under Historical Discussion so I will open another thread there.

 

[Fitzgibbon]

Casualty figures are always a problem. Cannot have a believable battle scene without them but don't want to pay the premium you paid for the hero pieces in the dio. Technology is slowly opening possibilities for such problems. Water has long been a problem like this but there is growing selection of two-part products that are workable and economical - and produce a result that you can stand figures on for longer than it takes to photograph them. How hard can it be to produce a figure face down in the water for less than half the price of a premium figure? And since you are going to submerge him in the pond, you certainly won't want to pay for the whole nine yards! It's not a collectible so a box is not required - nor is a photograph! This is a diorama accessory that requires manufacture and marketing as such - not as a collectible.

I think that this has long been the sticking point for manufacturers. The cost is not for the most part in producing the figure but rather its distribution. It's about the box and what happens after the figure goes into it; not what it costs to make the figure. So it matters not whether you put a premium figure or a pebble in the box, the lion's share of costs is in getting the box to you. So makers of premium figures just cannot do effectively a task that should be the domain of a diorama accessory maker. K&C tried it - three dead German soldiers for $99 seems to indicate that this is the limit, and it was followed by the more recent Imperial Guard casualties with only two in the box. What I would like is 6 in a bubble wrap for $99 - and what about a WWI skeleton in the mud? These figures are only slightly more profiled than the backdrop but the diorama is not complete without them.