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I am a little curious as to why the subtle shift in scales back toward 1/32 from 1/30th?
If 1/30 has been a success, why change back? Is it an admition that 1/30th has limitations?
Is it an attempt to appeal to a larger audience?
Perhaps the uniqueness of the WWII series doesn't translate to the other series?
With the greater excentrisities of ALL figures from past times, Napoleonic,Crusades etc.
wouldn't a larger scale allow for more detail at a larger scale?
Does this indicate if successful that a WWII shift would also follow?
Your Thoughts,
Ray :confused:
 
I like the 1/32 scale and wish that he had done the napoleonic sets in that scale so that they would mix better with all my other napoleonics. I also think that because he is moving into new eras in time he is thinking that most people who all ready collect that era in time may not purchase a new line of figures if they don,t match up with what they already have but if they were of the same scale as what they collect already they might add a few to there collection. It makes perfect sence to me. I think that 1/30 scale collectors are the minority not 1/32. Don,t forget how long 1/32 has been around and how many figure are out there on the market already(Andy hasn,t).
 
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Possibly correct, except for World War II. He's the leader there and if you want to collect WW II, you mostly have to get K & C.
 
jazzeum said:
Possibly correct, except for World War II. He's the leader there and if you want to collect WW II, you mostly have to get K & C.
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True enough, if you just collect factory sets, hands down KC has the greatest line and variety.
I have collected an amazing amount of troops and vehicles in 1/32 from many makers, metal, metal kits, plastic, plastic kits, conversions, old 1/32 Monogram kits, FOV and 21st century toys etc.
At least 6 different Armies.A little effort required.I do have 1 Platoon worth of KC SS simply because they were so Splendid, and my Kid liked them.

I agree with Both of you, just depends what angle you are looking from.
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Talking scale to Andy is like talking bananas to a monkey, they're all the same. That being overly simplistic but, essentially accurate. K&C has grown and shrunk in scale from its very beginning. It has to do with Andy's way of seeing the world and the different sculptors that have been used along the way. Andy has practically had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the higher quality level (just ask Chris). He has come around quite a bit but, it has been a bitter battle every step of the way to get him there. Hopefully, he'll stay there.
 
I actually love K/C's vehicles, but would not mind buying figures in a less expensive price range ( conte ,britains, etc) Does anyone else mix and match the smaller scale figures with the larger vehicles ? Michael
 
maddadicus said:
I actually love K/C's vehicles, but would not mind buying figures in a less expensive price range ( conte ,britains, etc) Does anyone else mix and match the smaller scale figures with the larger vehicles ? Michael
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I do it all the time. For example, I have mixed winter Britains (the Styer truck, halftrack and three panzer IV's) and FOV tanks with the K&C BOB series. I think they look good together.

I am trying to figure out if the new 54mm Frontline Indians from the 7 Years War will match up alright with the 1/30 John Jenkins English. I just got five sets of them yesterday from Sierra and they are absolutely the best figures I own. Yes Brad, even better than K&C, just a bit, but better.

I mix FOV, Conte, K&C and Britains all the time. I mix becasue they appeal to me and I am not trying to be a historian in everything I do. I only try to keep battles with battles (WWII Berlin with WWII Berlin, etc.).

I think that Carlos, desk11desk12, also does some mixing. I believe that there are many of us Heinz 57 types.
 
I started this hobby trying to find better figures for my Forces of Valor. Check my 1st post. Boy did that open a can of worms as far as scale goes. So what was the result? 90% of my Collection is K&C...Go figure. Just got all of the new FOV stuff though, and I love it. I am doing a diorama with the new FOV pieces as we speak. It will be on a Web Site in about three weeks, but out of respect for Treefrog I can't tell you where it will be. I hope someone stumbles upon it, it looks like a good one. To stay with the thread, I was perfectly happy with 1/32, then came K&C and HB............ Firebat
 
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Mr Man said:
Talking scale to Andy is like talking bananas to a monkey, they're all the same. That being overly simplistic but, essentially accurate. K&C has grown and shrunk in scale from its very beginning. It has to do with Andy's way of seeing the world and the different sculptors that have been used along the way. Andy has practically had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the higher quality level (just ask Chris). He has come around quite a bit but, it has been a bitter battle every step of the way to get him there. Hopefully, he'll stay there.
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I have no idea what the first statement means but to say he had to be dragged kicking and screaming is a totally illogical statement because it presumes that Andy had to keep up with someone else to make a better quality product. The only person Andy has ever competed with until recently is himself. If you study his figures you can see the gradual evolution to what we have today. If he had to be dragged "kicking and screaming" you would have seen an instant dramatic change in quality. Well, that hasn't been the case at all.

When he first get started in this business, it was more as a hobby because he couldn't get soldiers from London quickly enough. It was his partner and ex-wife who told him that he either needed to get serious or engage in another line of work. He first started to get serious with the Arnhem line and from then on you see the tangible results, with quality starting to improve after that. If you look at some of the early WS sets compared to WS 16, one of his best early sets you see the change and then it started to get better with the Rommel Staff Car, WS 22, and so on.

Andy has always been competing with himself, not anybody else, to get better and we are the beneficiaries of that fruit.
 
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I am trying to figure out if the new 54mm Frontline Indians from the 7 Years War will match up alright with the 1/30 John Jenkins English. I just got five sets of them yesterday from Sierra and they are absolutely the best figures I own. Yes Brad, even better than K&C, just a bit, but better.
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I've seen this figures and they're nice but on a par with some of the newer Redcoats and Redmen? Well, maybe they're close.

All of these new companies are great and all that but let's see if they're around for the long haul, like K & C. They may make a few figures and then they're gone. Only time will tell.
 
nmrocks said:
I am a little curious as to why the subtle shift in scales back toward 1/32 from 1/30th?
If 1/30 has been a success, why change back? Is it an admition that 1/30th has limitations?
Is it an attempt to appeal to a larger audience?
Perhaps the uniqueness of the WWII series doesn't translate to the other series?
With the greater excentrisities of ALL figures from past times, Napoleonic,Crusades etc.
wouldn't a larger scale allow for more detail at a larger scale?
Does this indicate if successful that a WWII shift would also follow?
Your Thoughts,
Ray :confused:
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Maybe it's just easier to modify an existing 1/32 figure rather than design a 1/30 mold from scratch :rolleyes:
 
Mr Man said:
Talking scale to Andy is like talking bananas to a monkey, they're all the same. That being overly simplistic but, essentially accurate. K&C has grown and shrunk in scale from its very beginning. It has to do with Andy's way of seeing the world and the different sculptors that have been used along the way. Andy has practically had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the higher quality level (just ask Chris). He has come around quite a bit but, it has been a bitter battle every step of the way to get him there. Hopefully, he'll stay there.
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Are you kidding me? I have been collecting K&C for 14 years, and K&C has consistently improved its quality with virtually every new release. The only place where even arguably its quality had to be "dragged kicking and screaming" forward was with tracks on armored vehicles and interior detail on cabs and cockpits. Its figures, wheeled vehicles, diorama materials, and the top half of its armored vehicles steadily improved even when it had virtually no competition in the WWII area (2/3 of its production). And by the way, Chris who? I am not even sure who I am supposed to ask about dragging Andy forward.
 
:( HUSH HUSH! Leave Scales alone and if you Guy's want to go with 1/32, rather than 1/30th ; please go to another Soldier Company! Please don't put anymore Ideas, into Andy's Head!; on Scale Changing! Unless it will be 1/25th Scale like Tamiya Metal WW2 Kits! As it stands Andy, Sculpture's, is getting away with making the Figure's Smaller! I don't know if Andy, is aware of this? I'm Not Happy with this Scale Changing; look at the FOB'S and other WW2 Sets from K & C? They're Smaller?
 
Guys, if you look at the dates this is a zombie thread that's been reanimated - some of these comments were made over a year ago.
 
I agree I collect K&C because they were unique in scale (LARGER) and quality...if you don't like the scale it maybe wise to buy from a company that makes smaller scaled figures...



WELLINGTON
 
maddadicus said:
I actually love K/C's vehicles, but would not mind buying figures in a less expensive price range ( conte ,britains, etc) Does anyone else mix and match the smaller scale figures with the larger vehicles ? Michael
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I am can't tell you how many times I have changed a diorama piece after the fact by mixing. I have the complete Big Red One WB issue depicted in a Diorama along with the WB Bradley and patton. I call it "Operationn Cobra 1944". The problem is the Britain Shermans looked awful on the piece. So I put a Fov Enthusiast edition of the M4 Sherman, and detailed it even more with mud, cables, wood planking, extra supplies and with a White-out pen, wrote "Steel Wheels" along it's side, as soldiers often named their tanks. The final result is that My $20.00 sherman looks 100 times better than Britains Sherman. The way the soft tracks of the FOV sherman contour over the rubble really adds a touch of realism, which my expensive tanks couldn't match if they wanted to, because of the hard tracks. I had room for one more small tank, and after the fact, I recently added the FOV Stuart all detailed and battle worn. So I say go ahead and experiment , sometimes the results worthwhile.
 
Quickly run away at a lesuirly pace screaming [what ever you do dont arm
yourself] and if possible back yourself into a corner or a room with only one
way in or out!
 
Eazy said:
NIGHT OF THE LIVING THREAD!
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Hark i hear the moving of earth....slithering in the darknes...its coming closer...oh my god......RAMMJAGER!!!!!!!!!:eek::eek:;)
 
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