Collectors Showcase Marder III M scale (looking for the old ones measurements)? (1 Viewer)

[Hunter Rose]

Does anyone have the early Collectors Showcase Marder III M?

If so, would you be able to take some quick height, length, width measurements in millimeters? I'm thinking of picking one up but would like to know how it scales out.

I'm curious if it is 1/28 scale since the TCS StuG released around the same time was 1/28, and the Wespe with a similar chassis was also 1/28. If you had a TGM Hetzer to take a picture next to that would be awesome as well.

Thanks for any help.

 

[katana]

Collectors Showcase vehicles made before the Stug III were 1/30 scale. The first Tiger I's were the last 1/30 scale vehicles and they measured at exactly 1/30. Brian Levy was the first manufacturer of toy soldiers to address the increasing disparity between figure and vehicle scale by increasing vehicle scale to 1/28. The Thomas Gunn Hetzer is 1/30 scale as are Figarti vehicles. Regards

 

[Wraith]

It's not 1/30, it's a pretty straight 1/27.5 across the main dimensions.
Length: 179mm
Width: 79mm
Height: 90mm

 

[Hunter Rose]

It's not 1/30, it's a pretty straight 1/27.5 across the main dimensions.
Length: 179mm
Width: 79mm
Height: 90mm

Thanks. That is what I suspected. The Wespe is 1/28 as well, and since they have pretty much the same chassis/superstructure I was thinking TCS probably used the same rough dimensions as the Marder.

 

[Go for Broke]

No matter about scale, the Marder is a great piece. The early Stug was also very good. Love the skirts.

 

[wayne556517]

No matter about scale, the Marder is a great piece. The early Stug was also very good. Love the skirts.View attachment 153917View attachment 153918View attachment 153919View attachment 153920

Agree mate 2 classic pieces.

 

[wwiibuff]

Thanks. That is what I suspected. The Wespe is 1/28 as well, and since they have pretty much the same chassis/superstructure I was thinking TCS probably used the same rough dimensions as the Marder.

Actually the Wespe is built on the Panzer II chassis and the Marder III M is built on the 38T chassis but both were small tanks and might be close in overall length and width. The superstructure is similar.

 

[Hunter Rose]

Actually the Wespe is built on the Panzer II chassis and the Marder III M is built on the 38T chassis but both were small tanks and might be close in overall length and width. The superstructure is similar.

D'oh. Complete brainfart on my part. Thanks for the correction.

 

[katana]

I must confess to error. I cannot believe Brian was building 1/28 scale vehicles that early. The Marder was one of the first TCS vehicles! Why was the first Tiger I produced in 1/30? Very strange sequence of events!

 

[Hunter Rose]

I must confess to error. I cannot believe Brian was building 1/28 scale vehicles that early. The Marder was one of the first TCS vehicles! Why was the first Tiger I produced in 1/30? Very strange sequence of events!

The first StuG was also 1/28 as well. Honestly, the only vehicles that were really 1/30 were the first Tigers. Everything else seems to skew towards the 1/28 side.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

The AB41 was a fairly early model and it is 1:28

Terry

 

[Artillery_crazy]

The first StuG was also 1/28 as well. Honestly, the only vehicles that were really 1/30 were the first Tigers. Everything else seems to skew towards the 1/28 side.

Humm, what a pitty, for if when we put side by side a 1.35 and a 1.32 soldier we can spot on the scale difference...a 1.28 side by side a 1.35 or 1.32 vehicle is even more so a screaming difference......wish these manufacturers settled to a specific scale like in the past.....much easier for us to collect.....but then each one wants to filed their own scale so as to have us the collectors at ransom to their offerings...that is if you want a homogenious collection and do not mide the scarry sclae difference......{sm2}{sm2}{sm4}

 

[katana]

I have the first Stug III and I consider it one of TCS's best efforts. I measued the scale at 1/28 too; it goes perfectly with all the Toy Soldier scale figures except First Legion. I wonder what the eventual resolution of the scale issue will be? First Legion is a true 60MM, Figarti has grown from 54MM to 65MM figures. TCS figures are 68MM. The Toy Soldier standard size in Germany in the 1930's was 70MM 1/25 scale as established by Lineol and Hausser. The Tin Toy artillery and armor was also this scale. It would be nice if figure size from all manufacturers would stabilize at one common scale like 60MM or 70MM!

 

[maddadicus]

I have the first Stug III and I consider it one of TCS's best efforts. I measued the scale at 1/28 too; it goes perfectly with all the Toy Soldier scale figures except First Legion. I wonder what the eventual resolution of the scale issue will be? First Legion is a true 60MM, Figarti has grown from 54MM to 65MM figures. TCS figures are 68MM. The Toy Soldier standard size in Germany in the 1930's was 70MM 1/25 scale as established by Lineol and Hausser. The Tin Toy artillery and armor was also this scale. It would be nice if figure size from all manufacturers would stabilize at one common scale like 60MM or 70MM!

I have always liked the idea of buying from multiple mfgs. any vehicle that I might like with the caveat that they all somewhat match up in size. ( I do not mention scale since that is in the eye of the beholding mfg. and his advertising department .) I believed at the time that with the different mfgs. producing different type tanks or different looking versions of the same tank, I could put together a unique and complete total WW2 vehicle collection. But when 1 mfg. has a Stuart that is as large as a Sherman, or multiple sized Tigers ( marked with the same scale ), a Panzer as big as a Tiger..etc. etc. my hopes and wishes no longer are satisfied and certain mfgs. do not get my TS money..Their marketing fault, not mine...Michael