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Shocking news of the shooting death of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Arizona.

In this country we may have sharp political arguments, but there is no place for this!

Our prayers to the victims...
 
Media reports appear mixed as to whether Giffords is in surgery or whether she has passed away...
 
According to the Times, she's in critical condition but the bullet passed through her brain.
 
Mrs. Giffords is in recovery at the moment, and is in critical condition, but alive, God was with her today...Sammy
 
What a horrible event.It was reported that a 9 year old girl was killed.Does this satisfy the killer?
Mark
 
A federal judge, the ChiefJudge of the US District Court for the District of Arizona was assassinated in the shooting. The Congresswoman was the target of the assassination attempt and there may have been another assasin. The assassin, according to the Times, is tied to a website that has "anti government rumblings."
 
Was watching this in shock last night, what a terrible thing to happen.My thoughts and prayers go out to all who are injured or lost loved ones yesterday.I have relatives in Tucson myself and know they are deeply shocked at what happened. As Marco said above, I hope the gunmen got what he wanted out of such a savage pointless crime, because I think he's going to pay a high price for it.

Rob
 
It is ironic that 2011 is the beginning of the 150th Anniversary of the American Civil War, for the years leading up to war were characterized by similar events of tragic political violence. The print below shows a violent incident that occurred in Congress on May 22, 1856, which inflamed sectional passion. The illustration, a very early work by Winslow Homer, depicts the brutal caning of Massachusetts Senator Charles Sumner by Preston Brooks, a Congressman from South Carolina. Brooks was committed to the southern code of chivalry that sanctioned the use of violence to avenge a personal insult. Sumner gave a speech attacking slavery and Brooks' cousin Senator Andrew Pickens Butler. Brooks (right) is standing over Sumner (seated), and Rep. Lawrence M. Keitt stands (center) raising his cane against possible intervention, while holding a pistol. In the foreground are Georgia Senator Robert Toombs (far left with hat) and Illinois Senator Stephen A Douglas (hands in pockets).

Winslow Homer
Arguments of the Chivalry.
Boston: John H. Bufford, 1856
Lithograph on wove paper
 

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It turns out that the nine year old girl who died was Dallas Green's granddaughter. Dallas Green is a well know baseball man, who managed the Phillies to the World Series title in 1980. He also later managed the Mets.
 
The attack on Sumner was one of the most scurrilous attacks ever perpetrated in the Senate on one of its members and occurred during the height of Bloody Kansas. Sumner, one of the chief Radicals of the Republican Party (along with Thaddeus Stevens) didn't return to the Senate until 1859. The definitive work on Sumner is probably David Donald's biography, who has also written one of the definitive biographies of Lincoln.
 
What a tragedy and a disgrace. There are not enough tears to cry for that poor 9 year old girl. First there was that idiot in Texas advocating shooting politicians you don't agree with as a solution to the country's problems, and now another group of idiots acting on the idea. What is this country coming to?
 
Louis Badolato said:
What a tragedy and a disgrace. There are not enough tears to cry for that poor 9 year old girl. First there was that idiot in Texas advocating shooting politicians you don't agree with as a solution to the country's problems, and now another group of idiots acting on the idea. What is this country coming to?
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Absolutely, and how cowardly???. To open fire on unarmed civvies with no warning from close range is so low, unless this person has a mental problem I think he may have a date with the Arizona executioner. I do hope the lady in question and all the wounded recover.

Rob
 
PolarBear said:
It is ironic that 2011 is the beginning of the 150th Anniversary of the American Civil War, for the years leading up to war were characterized by similar events of tragic political violence. The print below shows a violent incident that occurred in Congress on May 22, 1856, which inflamed sectional passion. The illustration, a very early work by Winslow Homer, depicts the brutal caning of Massachusetts Senator Charles Sumner by Preston Brooks, a Congressman from South Carolina. Brooks was committed to the southern code of chivalry that sanctioned the use of violence to avenge a personal insult. Sumner gave a speech attacking slavery and Brooks' cousin Senator Andrew Pickens Butler. Brooks (right) is standing over Sumner (seated), and Rep. Lawrence M. Keitt stands (center) raising his cane against possible intervention, while holding a pistol. In the foreground are Georgia Senator Robert Toombs (far left with hat) and Illinois Senator Stephen A Douglas (hands in pockets).

Winslow Homer
Arguments of the Chivalry.
Boston: John H. Bufford, 1856
Lithograph on wove paper
Click to expand...


Very interesting Randy, have just been reading about this. Was a savage beating that Sumner took fully three years to recover from and return to work. Apparently Brooks was called a coward by Congressman Burlingame, Brooks challenged him to a duel but then apparently lost his nerve on discovering Burlingame was an excellent shot with a rifle. Sounds a very cowardly attack indeed, this whole era in US History is fascinating to me :cool:

Rob
 
Christina Green was born on 9/11.To be born in tragedy and die in tragedy.So sad.
Mark
 
This whole thing just sickens and infuriates me. What kind coward does something like this? I hope the injured recover and I pray for the lost and their families. A nine year old child? May the killer fry. -- Al
 
The individual responsible appears to have long standing mental health issues. He was rejected by the army and thrown out of college due to his problems. Doesn't appear to be politically motivated, but rather the actions of someone who is unbalanced. I read that the 9-year old that was killed was born on Sept. 11, 2001.
 
Others on this forum have already referred to the terrible shooting as a tragedy and a disgrace and a cowardly act. I can't agree with you more! This incident is absolutely sickening. My thoughts and prayers go out to the wounded and slain.
 
I suspect based on what has been reported so far that this guy will plead insanity. He sounds a bit like John Hinckley who shot Reagan. If so he may end up in a mental institution rather than prison. He does have to prove not just that he is mentally ill but can't distinguish between right and wrong.
 
Today at school, during meeting, I asked for a minute of silence. I think that no mater what political party one hails from, no matter what religion one practices, no mater what someone's views are on any issue, from healthcare to gun control, we can all send our prayers to the victims and their families, as well as agree that the only good type of extremist is, as Martin Luther King said, "...an extremist for love....".
 
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