Detached figure from base... (1 Viewer)

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I have a figure that the feet have come (loose) from the base...the set is pictured under the K&C glossy section titled "Alamo's in gloss"...the flag set figure is the one in question. I'm seeking professional advice to do this the best way possible. TIA

Markey
 
detach it all the way, spot of crazy glue, reattach! make sure the surfaces are clean(metal to metal) dont glue over paint.
Grant
 
It would be a good idea to drill holes in one or both feet, too, if possible, and corresponding holes in the base, then use pins made of wire--paper clips are good, but any stiff wire will do. That will provide a stronger join than a simple butt join.

Prost!
Brad
 
When you said that you were seeking professional advice for the repair - I waited with interest to see what professional advice you sought - and received.

I think I may have been mistaken - as to what you were asking.

In my opinion - you have options.

Probably the easiest of all repairs to make - is when a complete figure is detached ( or becoming that way), from the base. A quick repair is always - "Glue it back again" - and - it will work - for a while - or maybe forever - as Grant suggests - depends on what you want to do with the figure.

In this case - you can see that the flag carrier is always going to be somewhat of a problem. The flag is canted over to one side - the weight of the flag will therefore exert a sideways pressure on the figure at it's base - the feet. Also - three figures on the same base can sometimes distort the base. I would not have them all on one base myself - but - if that's the way they are - that's the way they are. Unless you want to be radical - and either chop up the base into three - or rebase each figure. I realise that some folks are very keen to keep things as they were first made - for all sorts of reasons.

So - let's assume you keep them as they are - on one base.

I would recommend drilling up through the base at the heels of each figure - and on up into the legs of each figure - very carefully, of course, so you don't disturb the paint. You will need to retouch the paint - but underneath the base - where it will show least. Then insert a fine steel or brass wire pin - coupled with a good epoxy resin glue - as Brad suggests. Coat the wire and the underside of each foot, doing them one at a time - and wiping off the excess glue each time. That should do it - they will be much more stable then.

In my strictly amateur opinion, of course. Your choice. :D johnnybach
 
I think drilling would be a huge mistake. I have had figures detach from the base and have had my expert person glue them back. Now, if a piece of the leg had broken off, drilling might be in order.

If you want to send me a better photo of the problem, I can show it to Mike this weekend and get his opinion -- and he's an expert :wink2:

Brad
 
With all due respect, I think Johnnybach is an expert, and at the risk of bragging, I would consider myself an expert in these matters, too.

Pinning the joint results in a stronger join than simply applying glue to two flat surfaces and butting them against each other, in this application (metal against metal). Same goes for resin, which is another material in which attaching does not include welding, that is, melting the two surfaces and allowing them to flow together and cool (whether metal or styrene plastic). Those kinds of joints are stronger, because the material from the two pieces merge. But a butt join is only as strong as the adhesive, and a pin inserted perpendicularly to the mating surface will increase the strength and its resistance to shearing stresses.

I concede that a collector would want to consider in the equation whether such a repair impacts the value of the piece, but as one who has made such repairs, I stand by my advice.

Prost!
Brad
 
Well, I consider Mike De Marco, who owns LeMans, an expert. He has repaired items for me and others on this Board that but for him would have been a total loss. If he recommends the course of action you recommend, fine, as I am not one. If not, I would follow whatever advice he says as he is a professional in these matters. Enough said.
 
Thanks for the info guys...but I have sold the set to another treefrog member. I'm hoping to aquire a set with the money which interested me more than the Alamo's.

Markey
 
For those who suggest drilling and pinning I assume this would require a dremel with a tiny bit. My question is; how do you hold/clamp the figure to drill the holes in the feet/legs? Using a vise etc is obvious enough, what do you pad it out with to ensure you do not bend, break the figures or lossen paint?
 
For those who suggest drilling and pinning I assume this would require a dremel with a tiny bit. My question is; how do you hold/clamp the figure to drill the holes in the feet/legs? Using a vise etc is obvious enough, what do you pad it out with to ensure you do not bend, break the figures or lossen paint?

I wouldn't use a dremel. I use a pin vice drill that you turn by hand, holding the figure in the other. The metal used in model soldiers is soft and you have a lot of control using the pin vice drill.

There are some posts concerning these repairs.

Scott.
 
You have been given lots of good advice here, so you can act upon that.

Yes, is does depend on the break.

I have recently repaired 4 K&C figures that were badly damaged, bases off.
They still had a pin moulded into either the base, of the foot, so all it needed was the bend the pin back straight, and glue them back.
EASY :)

I've also had some without a pin, so I always fit a new pin made from wire to secure the foot/feet to the base and glue.

The hardest job could be retouching the chipped paintwork, but that is the same a fixing flaked paint.

Hope it helps,

John
 

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