Will never argue with maths....maths can prove Black is White.....what I will say is the real black ink and pencils artists and painters ..did .reckon the perfect figure of a human... is.... height... is 8 times the head size....(that has changed with modern art...especially comic book art) .that is straight from the horse's mouth,,,,when I left school my first job was with an advertising mob....I use to pick up proofs from the printers and artwork and photos from the various studio's around Sydney....I got to know a few artists and often had a chat with them as I was interested in becoming a commercial artist at that time... I was no doubt influenced by the various lovely young ladies I often saw in the studio's...I am lousy at maths but those figures I remember......my preference would be 9........to each his own.....anyway regardless of Head verses Height...I do think camera's do not always tell the truth....quality of camera or skill of operator ?...or...just a bad camera day...cheers TomB
Spot on.... 36---22---36 are some other figures I seem to remember...... at that time there was a young model who was popular in Sydney... Janet Elplick who later became an Australian actress...Victoria Shaw.... she only made a couple of movies......doubt if anyone would remember her now..... the fifties was an interesting period in Aust for black and white comic book art....but the young comic book industry in Aust was soon destroyed by the cheap import of American colored comic's...but that is another story......regards TomBLovely young ladies in studios aren't usually that "average"!
Martin
Hi Vic...thanks for the input ....I measure by eye and very rarely use a ruler and by eye I reckon D Gaul is more than 8 heads high...so...as much as I hate figures and using rulers I made a copy of your photo and did some rough measurements..... I am not nit picking your method of measurements but my figures differ a bit from yours... but as I said... I aint that grouse with rulers and figures but I should not be more than a mm out...If I am wrong...no sweat...,...My point is.....some photo's on this form ...to me...shown the heads are too large and the bodies squat in relation to the head and I think the camera must be wrong....8 heads was the standard way of measuring height for a figure when I was a kid with an interest in indian ink comoc's and advice from some artists I chatted too.....I try for 8 heads high but sometimes the camera makes them appear 5/6 heads high and having the real figure and looking at the camera figure I see a difference...Wow..aint that long winded....appreciate your post.....your tunneling figures are looking good.....looking forwrd to seeing them finished...regards Tom
It is all fun and game's Vic.....D Gaul is very tall.... 8 would be too small.......say I was to make a figure of Joe Stalin who was 5ft 6" according to source...and make a figure of D Gaul who is well over 6ft and then stand them side by side they would be the same height....that is okay for TS because the figure's are all standard size's....but...for the rivet counters not correct.....nor would it be correct history wise and is that not what a lot of TS correctors are all about.....anyway ....back to the original subject....camera's tell fibs.....how do I know ?......in real life I am a stunningly good looking sort of bloke but the camera reckons I am ugly...of course camera's lie....cheers mate ...thank for the interest...... regards TomHello TomB,
I thought that real people were more reliable as measurements rather than using toy soldiers. I did biase my selection - notice that I selected personalities who are not built like demigods. Thus I obtained mearsurements of about 6 half to 7 heads tall. Surprisingly, according to my crude measurements, even DeGaulle who is very tall barely made 8 heads tall.
I generally model my figures to be 7 heads or shorter, as these look more natural to me. BTW, don't let Martin fool you - I think that he is an ex-Guardsman...
Rgds Victor
Scale is scale....you are right Martin.....I suppose different camera angle's do give different impressions, which in a way I suppose shows the camera does sometimes tell a few fibs....I sort of use measurements in that I have a piece of cardboard 60mm or 52mm high and try and get my figures to fit into that scale.but mainly I just judge things by eye...I am either lazy or frightened of maths......thanks you for your input...this has been a fun thread...regards TomBActually looking at that picture of DeGaul, I think it backs up your point anyway Tom. I believe it was taken from a quite low angle and distorts the view in making him appear taller (a bit like they did for Lord of the Rings). The same for Mussolini, he's on a platform whereas the photographer is on the ground.
I personally use a rulers and callipers when making equipment, I trust them more than my eye. After all scale is scale.
Martin
I cannot comment on war gaming figures as I have not seen any in the real and as you can gather I do not always trust what I see in a photo.....from the pic's I have seen I am very impressed with them.......I think they are wonderfull little sculpts and should really be collected just for their own appeal......I like the metal TS as I believe they are improving all the time....But...I have seen...photos only...some first class plastic TS,which appear picture real and are to me...a class ahead of the metal figure's....as I only have access to TS that interest me via the internet I dont bother collecting the few that appeal to me ...I 'd rather spend my dough on PC game's or IT gadgets ....regards Tom
