Egyptian Mounted Troops (1 Viewer)

[nysoldiers]

I collected Trophy from the "early days" and amassed several thousand figures, vehicles and artillery. Yet it is amazing to me how many sets I missed!
These posts are great and really show what a prolific maker Trophy was. To me they will alway be the "king of the glossies" and one of the world's great toy soldier brands.
AND I never anticipated what a great investment they would become as well.

 

[W T Allison II]

Great sets, Tommy. When Trophy of Texas became the master Trophy distributor, many former Trophy dealers stopped carrying Trophy, so I never saw many of the Dragoon Crest sets before, including these. Thanks for sharing them with us.

Do you, JB, or Martyn known what years the Egyptian cavalry wore the blue tunics with khaki pants? Also, I was wondering about the accuracy of this particular blue color since some other manufacturers have them wearing a darker blue.

Thanks Mike. I will post four foot figure photos Monday. One has this shade of blue and another a dark blue but the tunics and trousers are the same color for both figures. I have no idea about the dates. Tommy

 

[W T Allison II]

I collected Trophy from the "early days" and amassed several thousand figures, vehicles and artillery. Yet it is amazing to me how many sets I missed!
These posts are great and really show what a prolific maker Trophy was. To me they will alway be the "king of the glossies" and one of the world's great toy soldier brands.
AND I never anticipated what a great investment they would become as well.

Thanks nysoldiers. I passed up a lot of sets also. I feel the same about Trophy as you do. Tommy

 

[tdubel]

Tommy,
Your collection is just awesome. I love Trophy and probably have a 1/4 of what you have, but your pictures remind me of the fun "chase" ahead of me! Keep em coming, they are incredible!

Tom

 

[johnnybach]

Great sets, Tommy. When Trophy of Texas became the master Trophy distributor, many former Trophy dealers stopped carrying Trophy, so I never saw many of the Dragoon Crest sets before, including these. Thanks for sharing them with us.

Do you, JB, or Martyn known what years the Egyptian cavalry wore the blue tunics with khaki pants? Also, I was wondering about the accuracy of this particular blue color since some other manufacturers have them wearing a darker blue.

Hi Mike. To the best of my knowledge - the Egyptian Cavalry didn't wear Blue coats with Khaki pants. The figures shown (so far) have been the Egyptian Camel Corps (ECC) - on both camels AND horses. The ECC weren't classed as Cavalry. I haven't started painting or collecting any of the EEC - as I don't really see what all of the fuss about Camels is all about - and I therfeore, don't know a lot about them or their uniforms. I have read quite a bit about the Egyptian Cavalry Regiments though - as a precursor to painting up a set of The Khedive's mounted Military Band.

This band wore a red Tarboosh (Fez) with black tassel - Lancer style tunics and trousers in a light blue - with a buff/white plastron - double white stripe down each trouser leg - and dark blue putees with black boots. I have a few pictures and illustrations showing this - as I like to research as much info as possible - before starting a project.

In my various online readings, however, I came across an article that stated that, "The further one gets away from Cairo - the more mixed the dress of the troops appear". Officers often wore their Blue Dress uniforms all of the time ( instead of changing into the "White Summer Dress"), and the introduction of khaki was often on a piecemeal basis ( I think this started from about 1885 onwards - read it somewhere - but not certain about that).

Another thing to note - this time from personal experience - is that clothing exposed to heat dust and rain in hot climates - frequently change colour over time - as it's being worn. Line up any troop of soldiers you like - and it is rare for any to have EXACTLY the same shade of clothing on. The longer you have a piece of kit - the paler it goes - generally speaking. With the old vegetable based dyes that these Egyptian soldiers had at their disposal - that MAY be one reason that the darker blue jackets became paler under dusty, strong desert sun - over time. That may be another reason that TS manufacturers paint their figures the way that they do - just as I do - from a favoured old photograph - like this one - which is of my Cavalry Band ( though mine are mounted). Hope this helps. jb

[N.B. Many thanks go to Trooper - for this old photo of the Egyptian Cavalry Band - dismounted]

 

[W T Allison II]

Tommy,
Your collection is just awesome. I love Trophy and probably have a 1/4 of what you have, but your pictures remind me of the fun "chase" ahead of me! Keep em coming, they are incredible!

Tom

Thanks Tom. There are a lot of great Trophy collections that our forum members have. To me, the fun is also seeing other collections and finding sets I never knew existed. Tommy

 

[jazzeum]

I collected Trophy from the "early days" and amassed several thousand figures, vehicles and artillery. Yet it is amazing to me how many sets I missed!
These posts are great and really show what a prolific maker Trophy was. To me they will alway be the "king of the glossies" and one of the world's great toy soldier brands.
AND I never anticipated what a great investment they would become as well.

The breadth and depth continues to amaze me.

 

[W T Allison II]

Some of you had questions about the colors of the uniforms. These four foot figures represent sets in my collection. The light blue uniform is the winter uniform. I have only seen one other set like it. All have the Trophy mark on the base. The two lighter bases have "96". No date on the tan bases. The mounted figures I have posted photos of were by Dragon Crest in 2000 under the series "The Camel Corps and the Gordon Relief Column". Tommy

 

[ucla1967]

Hi Mike. To the best of my knowledge - the Egyptian Cavalry didn't wear Blue coats with Khaki pants. The figures shown (so far) have been the Egyptian Camel Corps (ECC) - on both camels AND horses. The ECC weren't classed as Cavalry. I haven't started painting or collecting any of the EEC - as I don't really see what all of the fuss about Camels is all about - and I therfeore, don't know a lot about them or their uniforms. I have read quite a bit about the Egyptian Cavalry Regiments though - as a precursor to painting up a set of The Khedive's mounted Military Band.

This band wore a red Tarboosh (Fez) with black tassel - Lancer style tunics and trousers in a light blue - with a buff/white plastron - double white stripe down each trouser leg - and dark blue putees with black boots. I have a few pictures and illustrations showing this - as I like to research as much info as possible - before starting a project.

In my various online readings, however, I came across an article that stated that, "The further one gets away from Cairo - the more mixed the dress of the troops appear". Officers often wore their Blue Dress uniforms all of the time ( instead of changing into the "White Summer Dress"), and the introduction of khaki was often on a piecemeal basis ( I think this started from about 1885 onwards - read it somewhere - but not certain about that).

Another thing to note - this time from personal experience - is that clothing exposed to heat dust and rain in hot climates - frequently change colour over time - as it's being worn. Line up any troop of soldiers you like - and it is rare for any to have EXACTLY the same shade of clothing on. The longer you have a piece of kit - the paler it goes - generally speaking. With the old vegetable based dyes that these Egyptian soldiers had at their disposal - that MAY be one reason that the darker blue jackets became paler under dusty, strong desert sun - over time. That may be another reason that TS manufacturers paint their figures the way that they do - just as I do - from a favoured old photograph - like this one - which is of my Cavalry Band ( though mine are mounted). Hope this helps. jb

[N.B. Many thanks go to Trooper - for this old photo of the Egyptian Cavalry Band - dismounted]

Thanks JB, I should have said camel corps and not cavalry, but I am also interested in the cavalry, too. Thanks again.

 

[ucla1967]

View attachment 115762View attachment 115763View attachment 115764 Some of you had questions about the colors of the uniforms. These four foot figures represent sets in my collection. The light blue uniform is the winter uniform. I have only seen one other set like it. All have the Trophy mark on the base. The two lighter bases have "96". No date on the tan bases. The mounted figures I have posted photos of were by Dragon Crest in 2000 under the series "The Camel Corps and the Gordon Relief Column". Tommy

Thanks Tommy for the photos of the various Egyptian uniforms. I had a Trophy set of Sudanese from the Egyptian Wars series that were wearing dark blue uniforms that I sold years ago. I had never seen the Trophy light blue uniforms until now.

 

[HAWKEYE]

does anybody remember a few years back somebody was selling 16 egyptian lancers for $895 on ebay. i kick myself for not buying them but i had just had a big outlay. it was the only time i have seen them for sale . thanks tommy for posting pictures of them

 

[W T Allison II]

does anybody remember a few years back somebody was selling 16 egyptian lancers for $895 on ebay. i kick myself for not buying them but i had just had a big outlay. it was the only time i have seen them for sale . thanks tommy for posting pictures of them

Thanks Hawkeye. They originally sold for $75 each so that would have been a great buy. Tommy