Figarti Panzer IV (1 Viewer)

[jazzeum]

Unless you see both of them side by side, it's hard to really form an opinion. Although I've seen the Mark IV and it's very nice, I haven't seen a HB Tiger (other than in photos) so it's hard for me to say that the Mark IV is better. At any rate to say it "blows it out of the water" is a little strong.

So one is metal and one is polystone, so? You can still form opinions of which one you like. From what I've seen of the photos and bearing in mind what I've said above, the HB Tigers are superb. On the other hand, I have the Figarti Tiger and I think that may be a better point of comparison.

The Figarti Tiger is in a different class by itself: a tank that you can lift off the top to see and where the tracks move.

 

[Warrior]

Louis,
Fair enough.

As you well know, I do not collect 1/32nd scale, my bag is 1/72, so my opinion is based on only what my eyes tell me and in my opinion, the HB Tiger is a work of art, if I saw it on a table at a modeling show, I'd think it was a superbly built kit, not a polystone tank.

Ditto for Collectors Showcase, I can't keep either the Marder III or the 222 in stock. Having seen the Figarti Mark IV in person at the Secaucus show, I'd also say seeing it on a table, I'd think it was a model kit painted in an over the top way.

I think all three are superb in their own way, too close to call or say one is vastly better than another.......

 

[M1SLAPPY]

I Am Still Waiting For My Figrati Mark Iv But I Do Own A Two Hb Panther Tankes And I Do Like The Quality Of The Hb Tanks They Are Not Worth The Extra Price Tag. The Figarti Mark Iv Is A Nice Addition To Anyones Collection.

 

[nasirkasmani]

hi M1SLAPPY,

can i assume the 2 HB tanks you owned are the panther or sherman, and not the Gold edition Tiger?

From pics, the Gold edition Tiger looks way better than the earlier model HB panther or sherman. When i receive my HB gold edition tiger tomorrow, i'll be able to judge more clearly. I do hope its worth the cost, meet the hype and reach my expectation of a $350 Vehicle.

The Figarti Tiger itself was hands down, the best engineered model of the Tiger i have ever seen.

But to me it loses out in that it was in 1/32 scale (a big majority, me included, collect 1/30)

HB wins in its ability to customize their tanks, but the slow production of items, lack of product variety, and high cost per item pegs it down.

Funny enough,in my opinion, the one company which stands to gain the most from this fierce contest between HB,CS & Figarti is K&C, which once demonstrates its position as the numero uno. Its big market share, competitive pricing, very good products and vast quantity/variety ensures it is still the king of 1/30 and 1/32.

The stalement between the other 3 challengers might just tempt many to take the easiest and safest route back to K&C. I wont mind doing this, in fact my main purpose getting either the Figarti/HB winter tank or even the much improved CS tank were to complement my K&C figures in the first place.hopefully the challenge posed by the other 3 companies makes Andy more motivated and hungry, to even further improved the K&C products.

Unless a picture of HB gold tiger and figarti winter panzer mk IV is shown side by side, i think this debate will rages on..

Sincerely,

Nasir Kasmani.

 

[Combat]

It is hilarious to see the HB price discussion brought up here again. Particularly after the opinions expressed by some in the recent KC RJ/armored car discussion. There are at least two threads on this board with numerous posts from the same poster on this issue. I'm not even sure what the quality and price of the HB Tiger has to do with this thread or the question asked - compatibility of the KC figures. So draw you own conclusions.

 

[UK_BOD]

Gents,

This is the Figarti PzIV in a quick 5 minute display with K&C figures and the Figarti Winter Soldier Set (Its now all put away again). Apologies for the shadows behind but it was only for a quick comparisson for nasirkasmani. I'm going to have to wait a while until I can display it properly. By the way it's not wearing its skirts (Although I'm sure you can guess that..).

Andy

 

[nasirkasmani]

Hi Andy,

Thanks for the pics, that was a huge help.

Looking at the pics, i think it clearly shows that the Figarti tank poses prettily with the K&C figures.

what i like is that the the Panzer IV paint job looks like it fits nicely with the K&C figures.

The HB Tiger is more subdued in tone colour (as in the previous pics i shown in the beginning of this thread) and i think is better posed with HB's own figures.

Some concern i see with the Panzer IV pics,

1)is that the commander's cupola hole does seem a bit shallow, and the K&C panzer commander does not fit cleanly into the cupola.

2)the MG34 is attached to the figarti commander's hands. so if you exchange them with K&C commander, there will not be an mg34.

3)maybe Figarti could have provided a decal sheet, so that the collector can have freedom to indicate which unit their Panzer IV belong to. (CS will do likewise for their upcoming Tiger) The provided Whermacht crew could be exchanged with other crew from K&C (Waffen ss or otherwise)

Overall, i'm very happy with the compatibility of this Panzer IV with K&C.

Andy, my sincere thanks again.

with warm rgds,

Nasir Kasmani.

 

[Rob]

Excellant pics.I found the smaller body K&C crew go very well in the more shallow turret hatch.

Rob

 

[UK_BOD]

I could only find my Winter Tiger so used the figs from that, couldn't find my Hummel, but didn't look that hard as the little ones were asleep as it was nearly eleven. I think the wife would have given me daggers if I had awoken them.

I like the PzIV, just can't wait for the next vehicle.

K&C have got some decent competition especially now that CS are also on the scene.

Andy

 

[debrito]

What you used for the snow look? bath bubbles?

Nice pic by the way.

Rod.

 

[chiefs70]

I am just dipping my toe in the WWII world but I've been thinking about adding this one - is it out? TF shows it as April pre-order. I may pull the trigger anyway as this will run off the shelves and it is a stunning piece.

 

[Gideon]

Louis,
Having seen the Figarti Mark IV in person at the Secaucus show, I'd also say seeing it on a table, I'd think it was a model kit painted in an over the top way.

Interesting point. I always found that people responded to the more vibrantly colored camo patterns even if they were a bit over done. I remember the K&C tiger in the Fall of Berlin series sold far less than the more vibrant color schemes.

Like many other collecting genres, color and presentation is what makes a collectible "pop". A miniature Tiger tank is no different.

 

[steel wheels]

Figarti has always made the best vehicles, and made them at a very affordable price. Honour Bound's polystone Tigers certainly look nice, but Figarti's Tigers actually come apart to reveal complete interior detail, have hinged hatches and engine covers which open, are made out of some 900+ separate pieces of metal and resin, and with a complete crew still retailed for $50 less than the bare Honour Bound version without crew.

I am a huge King & Country collector, but I recognize quality when I see it. Honour Bound's Tigers are certainly better quality than K&C's vehicles, but the ordinary $125-$145 Figarti vehicles are at least as good if not better than Honour Bound's special $350 Tigers, and the Figarti special $300 Tiger is worlds better than Honour Bound's offering. You are doing yourself a disservice if you don't grab the Figarti stuff, which is better and far more affordable.

I think if you are in the market for a 1/30 scale Tiger, then HB makes the best tank. However, in 1/32 scale, The Figarti Tiger is the best choice. I spent quite a while deciding on what Tiger to buy. I purchased the 323 Figarti Tiger for less then $200.00 delivered to my door brand spanking new. Add the five crew members along with the detailed interior, and a weathered exterior that is as good as HB, you would have to think that this could run several hundred dollars in an HB version, if the HB tank had all the interior detail. I have to agree with Louis, and that is, Figarti makes some great vehicles, and so does HB, it just boils down to taste and what you are willing to spend. If Figarti ever releases a Sherman, I will be willing to bet, that I would sell my K&C sherman to make room for it!

 

[kilted vampire]

Don't forget Know figarti is in the 1:30 scale now

 

[kilted vampire]

Found this on their website

 

[agmtanks]

Has anyone heard if Figarti is going to make this in a Normandy Camo?

 

[Louis Badolato]

Has anyone heard if Figarti is going to make this in a Normandy Camo?

Based on Figarti's past performance, I would be shocked if we didn't see several different versions of this excellent model, spanning everything from North Afrika through the Bulge, so I would certainly expect a Normandy version.