First Legion: "Snowstug" (3 Viewers)

[Vezzolf]

It seems that it is a simple process to create a "snow-stug" from existing stock....Just add a little white-wash and mud:wink2:.....I would like to see First legion do this with the Stalingrad Grey Stug. I remember seeing a proto-type FL Winter Stug which never was released. I think I have a stored photo somewhere....Will try to find it....Maybe Matt would consider doing an FL Winter Stug from the existing Grey Stug mould..... we already have a Winter Panzer III.....A "snow-stug" would be an excellent addition to the Stalingrad Series.

 

[Vezzolf]

Now that is a "Winter Stug"....Done the First Legion Way.....Hope we see this soon

 

[braddinpa]

Looks really good!

 

[Mike97]

Now that is a "Winter Stug"....Done the First Legion Way.....Hope we see this soon

Sure would work for me....can I get an Amen?
mike

 

[spartan71]

Sure would work for me....can I get an Amen?
mike

More than A definite AMEN.

 

[Blowtorch]

anyone know why there are winter tracks on the grey one as it is?

 

[tommy416]

I would get it !!

 

[Vezzolf]

It would not be surprising to me if First legion goes ahead with this Winter Stug.....I think that many guys would buy it.....Very Realistic...not Toy-Like.:wink2:

 

[braddinpa]

It would be hard to resist.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

anyone know why there are winter tracks on the grey one as it is?

Why not. They could have the winterketten but not have whitewashed the AFV. They were developed in 1942 to aid in deep snow. Just in time for Stalingrad.

Terry

 

[Beaufighter]

anyone know why there are winter tracks on the grey one as it is?

Are they Ostketten rather than Winterketten? I thought that Ostketten were just wider tracks while Winterketten were triangular extensions?

Thanks,
Marc

 

[braddinpa]

According to the description of the Stug they are Ostketten.

 

[Blowtorch]

According to the description of the Stug they are Ostketten.

I'm pretty sure it was a typo that was never corrected. Ostketten came a few years later


Terry good point

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Are they Ostketten rather than Winterketten? I thought that Ostketten were just wider tracks while Winterketten were triangular extensions?

Thanks,
Marc

According to the description of the Stug they are Ostketten.

I'm pretty sure it was a typo that was never corrected. Ostketten came a few years later


Terry good point

Winterketten were available from about October 1942 so it is possible to have an not yet whitewashed AFV with Winterketten. Ostketten were not available until 1944 and were for mud from the Spring thaw and Autumn rains in Russia and Eastern Europe. They are both track links and not just bolt on extensions. The difference is in their shape. Winterketten look like a normal track with a paddle extension added. The gripper bar goes across only what looks like the normal track width. There are big spaces between the "extensions" for snow.

Ostketten were developed in 1944 for deep mud from the Spring thaw and Autumn rains of Russia and Eastern Europe. The paddle extensions are closer together to better distribute the weight of the AFV in mud. The gripper bar goes almost the full width of the track and the extension.

Here is a comparison of the different track types.



Here is a photo of an Ostketten track link and a Winterketten track link.



The extended tracks on both FL AFVs are Winterketten.

Terry

 

[tommy416]

Not only would i love a snow stug, but one with side skirts!!!!!

 

[Gebhard]

I think a AFV of this quality would do very well indeed {bravo}}{bravo}}{bravo}}

 

[sammy719]

Count me all in if there is a Snowstug in the future, but being I have 2 versions of the grey Stug I would love to see a winter Hanomag or winter Panzer IV long barrel with battle worn side skirts, but then again if any winter vehicles come along they are a must have...Sammy

 

[tommy416]

Now that is a "Winter Stug"....Done the First Legion Way.....Hope we see this soon

Does anyone know if mark has been asked to do this?????? It looks to me that their is a some-what decent interest in this being made available and ties into the Stalingrad line. {sm0}

 

[Beaufighter]

Winterketten were available from about October 1942 so it is possible to have an not yet whitewashed AFV with Winterketten. Ostketten were not available until 1944 and were for mud from the Spring thaw and Autumn rains in Russia and Eastern Europe. They are both track links and not just bolt on extensions. The difference is in their shape. Winterketten look like a normal track with a paddle extension added. The gripper bar goes across only what looks like the normal track width. There are big spaces between the "extensions" for snow.

Ostketten were developed in 1944 for deep mud from the Spring thaw and Autumn rains of Russia and Eastern Europe. The paddle extensions are closer together to better distribute the weight of the AFV in mud. The gripper bar goes almost the full width of the track and the extension.

Here is a comparison of the different track types.

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Here is a photo of an Ostketten track link and a Winterketten track link.

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The extended tracks on both FL AFVs are Winterketten.

Terry

Awesome Terry-thanks for the images and follow-up!

~Marc

 

[Vezzolf]

I am still hopeful that a Stalingrad Winter Stug will be released sometime in the future...with some winter german tank riders.