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Jack

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A Wingnuts aircraft.

The plans were ... let's say ... a guide rather than a definitive step by step process. Austro Hungarian colours but the correct decals fell apart and were replaced.

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You are becoming the 'Great War plane dio' dude, with a little help from Dad......:salute::
Wayne.
 
Mate great plane,that is one version if someone made i would grab great setup.
 
Mate great plane,that is one version if someone made i would grab great setup.

I'll echo those comments although I would struggle to get one if JJ or another manufacturer made it as im stretched to the limit already.

Great dio Marty and welcome back home.

Tom
 
I've missed that barn! Good to see that you're back home and wasting time creatively again.
 
Jack, you delivered as promised and a real beaut of a job it is. One of the most iconic aircraft of the war and certainly the most important in terms of history as the Eindecker is the first purpose built fighter aircraft with the synchronized machine gun. Really like the dark color scheme that was chosen. Lots of rigging that must have been 'fun' to do, but the result is outstanding. Top flight job! ^&cool -- Al
 
Jack, you delivered as promised and a real beaut of a job it is. One of the most iconic aircraft of the war and certainly the most important in terms of history as the Eindecker is the first purpose built fighter aircraft with the synchronized machine gun. Really like the dark color scheme that was chosen. Lots of rigging that must have been 'fun' to do, but the result is outstanding. Top flight job! ^&cool -- Al

Al

Going by the plans some of the rigging was actually impossible. It came up pretty well, although my Head of Construction did complain a good deal. I am very impressed with the finished job and am pleased to hear that the Rumpler is next with a Gotha appearing by Christmas.

The wingspan is interesting - noticeably wider than the Fokker Triplane and Pflaz which I assume is accurate. I was going to google it but thought it would be quicker to ask you!!{sm3}

Jack
 
Thanks everyone for the 'likes' and the comments. A great hobby!!
 
Al

Going by the plans some of the rigging was actually impossible. It came up pretty well, although my Head of Construction did complain a good deal. I am very impressed with the finished job and am pleased to hear that the Rumpler is next with a Gotha appearing by Christmas.

The wingspan is interesting - noticeably wider than the Fokker Triplane and Pflaz which I assume is accurate. I was going to google it but thought it would be quicker to ask you!!{sm3}

Jack
Hi Jack. The Eindecker is, in fact, quite a bit bigger in length and wingspan than a Fokker triplane and is a little larger than the Pfalz in both dimensions. Even though it was the earlier aircraft, the Eindecker is actually bigger than any of the aircraft that JJD or KC have made yet in those two dimensions.
Eindecker: wingspan- 31' 3"... Length- 23' 7"
Triplane: ws- 23' 7"... L- 18' 11"
Fok. D-7: ws- 29' 0"... L- 22' 10"
Albatros D-3: ws- 29' 0"... L-24' 0"
Camel: ws- 26' 11"... L- 18' 9"
SE-5: ws- 27' 0"... L-20' 11"
Nieuport 17: ws- 27'... L-19' 0"
Spad 13: ws- 27'... L-20' 6"
And the Pfalz D-3 has a ws of 31' and length of 22' 10".
You can see that the Eindecker is quite a bit bigger than some and a little bigger than others, like the Pfalz, but overall it is still larger than all of them. -- Al
 
Hi Jack. The Eindecker is, in fact, quite a bit bigger in length and wingspan than a Fokker triplane and is a little larger than the Pfalz in both dimensions. Even though it was the earlier aircraft, the Eindecker is actually bigger than any of the aircraft that JJD or KC have made yet in those two dimensions.
Eindecker: wingspan- 31' 3"... Length- 23' 7"
Triplane: ws- 23' 7"... L- 18' 11"
Fok. D-7: ws- 29' 0"... L- 22' 10"
Albatros D-3: ws- 29' 0"... L-24' 0"
Camel: ws- 26' 11"... L- 18' 9"
SE-5: ws- 27' 0"... L-20' 11"
Nieuport 17: ws- 27'... L-19' 0"
Spad 13: ws- 27'... L-20' 6"
And the Pfalz D-3 has a ws of 31' and length of 22' 10".
You can see that the Eindecker is quite a bit bigger than some and a little bigger than others, like the Pfalz, but overall it is still larger than all of them. -- Al

Al

Like the black and white TV, Google has had its day! Thanks very much for the reply.

It is an interesting question regarding the size of aircraft that manufacturers can make and yet keep costs under control. I wonder if we have seen the last full range of WW1 aircraft for some years given that other types might be cost prohibitive. Inter war aviation, however, is still up for grabs. Bring on the Bristol Bulldog! I would love to do an interwar airfield in England - Oxford Uni had a squadron (?) which I think Cheshire might have flown in. It would be something different.

Jack
 
Al

Like the black and white TV, Google has had its day! Thanks very much for the reply.

It is an interesting question regarding the size of aircraft that manufacturers can make and yet keep costs under control. I wonder if we have seen the last full range of WW1 aircraft for some years given that other types might be cost prohibitive. Inter war aviation, however, is still up for grabs. Bring on the Bristol Bulldog! I would love to do an interwar airfield in England - Oxford Uni had a squadron (?) which I think Cheshire might have flown in. It would be something different.

Jack
Jack, inter-war aviation is an almost untouched treasure trove. Some 1/48 stuff around but there is tons of stuff that could be done in 1/30. I would love to see US Navy aircraft like the Boeing F4b's, Grumman F3F's, or Curtiss Hawks done in their very colorful schemes. -- Al
 
Jack, inter-war aviation is an almost untouched treasure trove. Some 1/48 stuff around but there is tons of stuff that could be done in 1/30. I would love to see US Navy aircraft like the Boeing F4b's, Grumman F3F's, or Curtiss Hawks done in their very colorful schemes. -- Al


A couple of good aircraft carrier dios screaming for someone to have a go!

Jenkins is our man.
 
Al

It is an interesting question regarding the size of aircraft that manufacturers can make and yet keep costs under control.

Kinda interesting that I first looked at your pics and asked myself about production costs for one by JJD in 1:30. I'd think that it would have certainly been doable in the past because it's only got one wing. That alone ought to reduce the cost of materials, painting and assembly. It's bracing scheme is somewhat unimposing, so that would help. Working against the model is it's wingspan which would necessitate a larger shipping container and increase subsequent distribution costs. Given the rise in Chinese labor $$$, however, there's no telling where things stand now. :(
 
Kinda interesting that I first looked at your pics and asked myself about production costs for one by JJD in 1:30. I'd think that it would have certainly been doable in the past because it's only got one wing. That alone ought to reduce the cost of materials, painting and assembly. It's bracing scheme is somewhat unimposing, so that would help. Working against the model is it's wingspan which would necessitate a larger shipping container and increase subsequent distribution costs. Given the rise in Chinese labor $$$, however, there's no telling where things stand now. :(


I wonder whether we may be seeing the natural limits for JJD in this range. I have concentrated on the groudcrew so I have not contributed to the actual sales of the aircraft but it is nevertheless a tremendous selection. JJD would know whether larger aircraft (two seaters for example) could be supplied for a sustainable increase of perhaps 50 - 70 dollars (like almost all discussion of price, a completely arbitrary figure) but whether that is on the horizon is anyone's guess. If the Germans had just painted their aircraft one colour things would be much easier although of course they would not be half as appealing. Jenkins has shown with the WW1 vehicles that he is prepared to supply the unexpected so who knows.
 
A couple of good aircraft carrier dios screaming for someone to have a go!

Jenkins is our man.

I couldn't agree more. I only own sixty-six figures that the locals would likely consider TS, and all of those are aviation-related. In fact, the closest that I've come to a figure holding a weapon is a NAZEE with a microphone in his hand. :wink2: Given the fact that there is essentially NO figure support for Naval-themed, model aircraft in 1:30/32, I can't help but believe that collectors would go bonkers over some good ones that might appear from a quality TS maker like JJD.

Here are some close-ups from Dietz' The Professionals:

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carrierwarcsg006theprofessionalsJamesDietz.jpg


Now, that would be a great diorama!^&grin
 
I couldn't agree more. I only own sixty-six figures that the locals would likely consider TS, and all of those are aviation-related. In fact, the closest that I've come to a figure holding a weapon is a NAZEE with a microphone in his hand. :wink2: Given the fact that there is essentially NO figure support for Naval-themed, model aircraft in 1:30/32, I can't help but believe that collectors would go bonkers over some good ones that might appear from a quality TS maker like JJD.

Here are some close-ups from Dietz' The Professionals:

carrierwarcsg005theprofessionalsJamesDietz.jpg



carrierwarcsg006theprofessionalsJamesDietz.jpg


Now, that would be a great diorama!^&grin



Put me down for one each and I can get my friend Wayne to make the gun turret out of paddle pop sticks. With you and Al that gives Jenkins three sales before they even hit the shelves.
 

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