French Foriegn Legion Vs Custer And The 7th Cavalry (1 Viewer)

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I Was Wondering If Any Of You Have Given A Thought About The Geste Boys And The Foreign Legion. Nobody Has Done These In Matte. And Would This Be More Favorable Than The 7th Cav. I Myself Would Prefer To See Custer As A Civil War Gen Leading Yankee Cavalry.
 
A company in France has done a matte series on the French Foreign Legion. I believe the companys name was Hachette.
K&C designed the first 30 figures in the set, then someone else did the rest. I was able to get the first 30 off of ebay a few years ago. I would rank the quality below K&C, but better than DelPrado.
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I would love to see FFL done by KC.
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Yes this figures are great! Unfortunately I have just this one:

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but with this pics you can appreciate the completion
 
HAWKEYE said:
I Was Wondering If Any Of You Have Given A Thought About The Geste Boys And The Foreign Legion. Nobody Has Done These In Matte. And Would This Be More Favorable Than The 7th Cav. I Myself Would Prefer To See Custer As A Civil War Gen Leading Yankee Cavalry.
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Speaking for myself, I would much prefer to see FFL than Custer.....but that's just me.
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I'll join in; FFL in matte would be spectacular, would L-O-V-E so see K & C do a FFL series..........
 
HAWKEYE said:
I Was Wondering If Any Of You Have Given A Thought About The Geste Boys And The Foreign Legion. Nobody Has Done These In Matte. And Would This Be More Favorable Than The 7th Cav. I Myself Would Prefer To See Custer As A Civil War Gen Leading Yankee Cavalry.
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Britains is bringing out a Civil War Custer. Treefrog is taking pre-orders. Actually Custer did better in the Civil War than he did against the Indians. He made the mistake of assuming that the Indians were ignorant and disorganized. In reality they were battle hardened expertly led light calvary.
 
4th Hussar said:
Britains is bringing out a Civil War Custer. Treefrog is taking pre-orders. Actually Custer did better in the Civil War than he did against the Indians. He made the mistake of assuming that the Indians were ignorant and disorganized. In reality they were battle hardened expertly led light calvary.
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If you have studied Custer, I don't think you can make the statement that he assumed Indians were ignorant and disorganized. It is true that Indians did not follow the same code of conduct the white man had for war, and that they would take flight rather than fight in order to protect the women and children, however none of that translates to ignorant or disorganized. Custer had great success against the Indians, but he did meet his end by going into the field without knowing the enemies strength. It was an unusual time and Custer did not suspect that rival Indian tribes would mass together in such numbers, although I think it was the Indian Scout, Mitch Bouyer (Boyer), who stated that the Indians had significant strength in numbers before Custer went out on his scouting trip. This information was disregarded and Custer refused additional Cavalry that would have doubled his force.
 
Custer made the classic mistake of underestimating his enemy. He paid the price for his arrogance
 
I have a couple of the masters of the K&C/Hachette French Foreign Legion figures (Andy gave them to me as a gift a few years back), and they are quite nice. I also have the complete glossy FFL range K&C did back in 1988. I would love some Beau Geste era FFL from K&C.
 
Boyer said:
...although I think it was the Indian Scout, Mitch Bouyer (Boyer), who stated that the Indians had significant strength in numbers before Custer went out on his scouting trip. This information was disregarded and Custer refused additional Cavalry that would have doubled his force.
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That would seem consistent with what I have read about his style but I am not sure a double would have made any difference in the ultimate outcome.
 
Spitfrnd said:
That would seem consistent with what I have read about his style but I am not sure a double would have made any difference in the ultimate outcome.
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It would be speculation only, but I have often wondered what would have happened had Custer been able to establish a defensable position. Given a larger force he may have been able to repel the hostiles long enough to dig in like Reno. The relief column was only a day away and a messenger may have been able to slip away under cover of dark to hassen the advance. In addition, under a different commander or with a larger force the Reno engagement may have dug in at the timber along the River and engaged the Indians in numbers that would not allow them to overwhelm Custer's force. With soldiers within firing range of the woman and children Reno would be the top priority and the village would begin to flee. The majority of eye witnesses claim that Custer was repelled at the River and fought a running battle up to Custer ridge. If the fighting was over by the time Weir advanced to his most forward position, then the battle would have lasted from one to three hours or so. I think that Custer did try to dig in and it was not a running fight, but the sheer overwhelming firepower his positions received forced them to keep trying to find a more defensive position. A larger force would have halted the Indians advance to overrun the 7th Cavalry position. I also believe had Custer survived, he would have survived the political outcry in suffering a defeat.
 
I forget--how long was Custer's stand? I have heard the saying that it was in the time it takes a hungry man to eat his meal. Was it really short?
 
Reno Was The Problem, He Might Have Been A Decorated Civil War Vetern But He Got Cold Feet On His Advance On The Indian Village And Stopped His Advance, Reformed At The River And Then Actully Retreated. Benteen Came Up From His Recon On The Left And They Sat And Did Nothing For Two Hours All The Time Hearing The Fighting And Duress Custer Was In... Ithink Reno Always Felt Guilty About This As I Believe He Was Drummed Out Of The Service , A Drunk. Some Of You Might Know More. As Toy Soldiers Go I Would Like To See Ffl And Custer Leading Yankee Cavalry In The Civil War.
 
HAWKEYE said:
Reno Was The Problem, He Might Have Been A Decorated Civil War Vetern But He Got Cold Feet On His Advance On The Indian Village And Stopped His Advance, Reformed At The River And Then Actully Retreated. ....
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I think Reno was a problem but I am not sure you could really put the lion's share of the blame on anyone but George. He really did go out of his way to put himself in that situation. Of course, it is a bit difficult to have much sympathy for soldiers attacking women and children in any war. And then there is the not so small problem of whose land it was and how many promises had been broken. To me, it is a very sad part of our history.

Here are two informative links for those interested:
http://www.sonofthesouth.net/union-generals/custer/custers-last-stand.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Little_Bighorn
 
Spitfrnd said:
I think Reno was a problem but I am not sure you could really put the lion's share of the blame on anyone but George. He really did go out of his way to put himself in that situation. Of course, it is a bit difficult to have much sympathy for soldiers attacking women and children in any war. And then there is the not so small problem of whose land it was and how many promises had been broken. To me, it is a very sad part of our history.

Here are two informative links for those interested:
http://www.sonofthesouth.net/union-generals/custer/custers-last-stand.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Little_Bighorn
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Interesting article.
 
The French editions HACHETTE made a collection of FFL figures, here are some but I do not know if they're K&C . I don't think, but they're nice!

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