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[TomB]

This is a photo ..I think...of a WW1 German sailor........my question......did WW1 sailors wear the German eagle on their uniforms...and.....the circle the eagle is perched upon....was that made up of the national colors of Germany..Black..White ...Red........I though the eagle with the crocked cross was a Nazi only thing....I was not aware the Eagle was also worn on uniforms before Hitler....can anyone help...cheers TomB

 

[lancer]

View attachment 136976 This is a photo ..I think...of a WW1 German sailor........my question......did WW1 sailors wear the German eagle on their uniforms...and.....the circle the eagle is perched upon....was that made up of the national colors of Germany..Black..White ...Red........I though the eagle with the crocked cross was a Nazi only thing....I was not aware the Eagle was also worn on uniforms before Hitler....can anyone help...cheers TomB

Tom, I am not a German uniform expert by any means, but that picture is a WW2 sailor, not WW1. The circle you ask about is indeed the national colors of black, white, and red. The eagle on the cap and uniform shirt with the swastika below it is a Hitler era insignia and was only worn during the Hitler era. -- Al

 

[Arnhemjim]

Tom,
With regard to Imperial German Naval Uniforms, circa 1914-1920, you may find the following web site of interest;http://www.ww1medals.net/ww1_imperial_german_navy_badges.htm. In addition am attaching three jpgs. First two from Uniforms of the World, Knotel, Knotel & Sieg, a classic reference. Hope this will be of assistance.

 

[theBaron]

Al is correct, that's a WWII German sailor, not an Imperial sailor.

The Imperial Navy rank and file wore the Reichskokarde, the Imperial cockade, on their caps, red-white-black. The Nazis implemented the eagle and swastika badge as the national emblem to be worn on headgear and uniforms. On headgear, the Reichskokarde was retained, as a symbol of the nation, while the eagle badge as added as a sign of "National Socialist spirit".

The corresponding badge for officers of the Imperial Navy consisted of the cockade, surrounded by a wreath of oak leaves, surmounted by Charlemagne's crown (the Germans claim his as Karl der Grosse, Charles the Great), which was chosen as a deliberate reference to the ancient Imperial authority of the German people. The Navy didn't use the state cockades, as the Army did, since the Navy was an Imperial instrument.

In the revived German armed forces, they retained the cockade, which was now the Bundeskokarde, the Federal cockade, red-gold-black, the old, old Imperial colors, and also, the colors adopted by the democracy movement in the 1840s, and again by the Republic after WWI.

Prost!
Brad

 

[TomB]

Tom, I am not a German uniform expert by any means, but that picture is a WW2 sailor, not WW1. The circle you ask about is indeed the national colors of black, white, and red. The eagle on the cap and uniform shirt with the swastika below it is a Hitler era insignia and was only worn during the Hitler era. -- Al

thanks Al....that was suppose to be a WW! sailor...I think...cannot trust info from the internet..that is why I wanted to check...not really worried about uniform being accurate...just general appearance......the Eagle had me curious....regards TomB

 

[TomB]

Tom,
With regard to Imperial German Naval Uniforms, circa 1914-1920, you may find the following web site of interest;http://www.ww1medals.net/ww1_imperial_german_navy_badges.htm. In addition am attaching three jpgs. First two from Uniforms of the World, Knotel, Knotel & Sieg, a classic reference. Hope this will be of assistance.

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Thank you for that...I will check out the site's ...looks very interesting....it is .a subject I know nix about ( not that I know nix about a great deal)...thanks again...regards TomB

 

[TomB]

Al is correct, that's a WWII German sailor, not an Imperial sailor.

The Imperial Navy rank and file wore the Reichskokarde, the Imperial cockade, on their caps, red-white-black. The Nazis implemented the eagle and swastika badge as the national emblem to be worn on headgear and uniforms. On headgear, the Reichskokarde was retained, as a symbol of the nation, while the eagle badge as added as a sign of "National Socialist spirit".

The corresponding badge for officers of the Imperial Navy consisted of the cockade, surrounded by a wreath of oak leaves, surmounted by Charlemagne's crown (the Germans claim his as Karl der Grosse, Charles the Great), which was chosen as a deliberate reference to the ancient Imperial authority of the German people. The Navy didn't use the state cockades, as the Army did, since the Navy was an Imperial instrument.

In the revived German armed forces, they retained the cockade, which was now the Bundeskokarde, the Federal cockade, red-gold-black, the old, old Imperial colors, and also, the colors adopted by the democracy movement in the 1840s, and again by the Republic after WWI.

Prost!
Brad

Thanks for that.....the Sailor was suppose to be a WW1 seaman...I could not understand the Eagle and thought maybe it had the National colors in the circle the Eagle is perched on....Imperial Navy...good...now I know where to search....I probably made a blue in my search...thanks again...TomB

 

[theBaron]

Another thing to look for is the cap tally. In the Imperial Navy, the cap tally bore the name of the sailor's ship. In the Third Reich, it bore the legend, "Kriegsmarine".

Prost!
Brad