Arnhemjim
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It is precisely because of issues such as this that I am very thankful that I am not a dioramist, as a consequence questions regarding scale don't bother me. As anyone familiar with vintage W. Britains toy soldiers will relate, aside from some wagons and artillery, none of their vehicles or artillery pieces were consistent with the scale (nominally 54 mm) of their figures. All that having been said, and as a retired weapon systems engineer and naval intelligence officer, rather than get embroiled in this discussion, my intent is to provide a data package which will afford most individuals to conduct their own analysis from a common baseline. The reference source for the following information is; Armoured Fighting Vehicles in Profile Volume 4 American AFVs of World War II, Duncan Crow, Editor, Doubleday & Company, Inc., London, 1972. You will immediately notice a significant variance of the dimensions cited, and those previously quoted in this thread. The individual authors who researched and wrote the chapters on the M5 and M4 are Peter Chamberlain and Chris Ellis. Those of you so inclined can check their respective education, background, and credentials elsewhere on the Internet. Apologies for not providing a precise common scale on the illustrations, I tried, but my competency with PhotoShop is limited. However given available data I believe the following provides the salient information.
M4A3 - overall from top of AA pintle stand 138.875 in
M5 - height overall 90.5 in
A differential of 48.375 in (4 ft 3/8 in)
M4A3 - length overall (incl gun) 24 ft 8 in
M5 - length overall 14 ft 2 3/4 in
A differential of 10 ft 5 ¼ in
M4A3 - width overall 8 ft 9 in
M5 - width overall 7 ft 4 ¼ in
A differential of 1 ft 4 ¾ in
I sincerely hope that the image upload limitations on this site do not give me any significant challenges, having already put in a considerable amount of time researching the subject. Then after laborious resizing find that I can only upload 5 images per post. Sincere gratitude!
Slainte Mhor (Gaelic for "Great Good Health")
Arnhem Jim
Arizona Territory
It is precisely because of issues such as this that I am very thankful that I am not a dioramist, as a consequence questions regarding scale don't bother me. As anyone familiar with vintage W. Britains toy soldiers will relate, aside from some wagons and artillery, none of their vehicles or artillery pieces were consistent with the scale (nominally 54 mm) of their figures. All that having been said, and as a retired weapon systems engineer and naval intelligence officer, rather than get embroiled in this discussion, my intent is to provide a data package which will afford most individuals to conduct their own analysis from a common baseline. The reference source for the following information is; Armoured Fighting Vehicles in Profile Volume 4 American AFVs of World War II, Duncan Crow, Editor, Doubleday & Company, Inc., London, 1972. You will immediately notice a significant variance of the dimensions cited, and those previously quoted in this thread. The individual authors who researched and wrote the chapters on the M5 and M4 are Peter Chamberlain and Chris Ellis. Those of you so inclined can check their respective education, background, and credentials elsewhere on the Internet. Apologies for not providing a precise common scale on the illustrations, I tried, but my competency with PhotoShop is limited. However given available data I believe the following provides the salient information.
M4A3 - overall from top of AA pintle stand 138.875 in
M5 - height overall 90.5 in
A differential of 48.375 in (4 ft 3/8 in)
M4A3 - length overall (incl gun) 24 ft 8 in
M5 - length overall 14 ft 2 3/4 in
A differential of 10 ft 5 ¼ in
M4A3 - width overall 8 ft 9 in
M5 - width overall 7 ft 4 ¼ in
A differential of 1 ft 4 ¾ in
I sincerely hope that the image upload limitations on this site do not give me any significant challenges, having already put in a considerable amount of time researching the subject. Then after laborious resizing find that I can only upload 5 images per post. Sincere gratitude!
Slainte Mhor (Gaelic for "Great Good Health")
Arnhem Jim
Arizona Territory
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