wayne556517
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Dear Gunn Team,
Good try in coming up with a Mountain gun that could provide some resemblance to the WW2 Japanese mountain gun you have pressed into service with the FFL.....The barrel lengths do not match and if the reader pays a very close attention he will see that the breach mechanism is of what we call a sliding block on the Picture of the 1904 Ehrhardt design whereas on the proposed model it is of the swivel opening one....just as the Japanese Type 41 gun....{sm2}...good try
Cheers
Artillery_Crazy
I'm sold on the new FJ,s like the new face sculpts as well.
I'm sold on the new FJ,s like the new face sculpts as well.
Well spotted, Luiz
John
Dear All
A short run of figures this month due to the London show and upcoming
Christmas holidays making December one of those frantic months where we try
to get everything in our stall, out as early as possible!
The French Foreign Legion
FFL047/48/49 comprises a 2 man Legionnaire crew desperately trying to get a
75mm mountain gun into action before they are overwhelmed by the locals!
Although not readily available to the Legion, artillery as and when it when
it could be procured including various mountain guns of all nationalities,
were pressed into service as well as heavier artillery pieces. The advantage
of mountain artillery is that it can normally be dismantled and stowed on
pack animals or can even be manhandled from one position to another by the
crew. When fighting local indigenous tribes who had no artillery, any
artillery the French could muster invariably made them king of the
battlefield. Our set comes with cannon, 2 crew figures, spare artillery
case/shells and is limited to 100 pieces worldwide.
Our Mountain Gun is based on the 1904 Ehrhardt design which was of 7.5cm
calibre (M.08) and replaced older mountain guns of 7.0 cm (M.98) and 6.0 cm
(C75) calibre. The trail legs could be retracted which gave this artillery
piece a rather unique look. Our gun has been hastily brought into action
before the column is over-run, we have therefore omitted the small spade at
the rear (picture attached) as we wanted to replicate the gun 'dug in' as it
would have been during action. Guns of this type were also supplied to the
Portuguese colonial forces in Angola in 1906 (where are legionnaires have
acquired theirs from?) and to the Dutch East Indian Army. An interesting
occurrence happened at the battle of Naulila in Southern Angola during
December 1914 when German M.08s came up against similar Portuguese weapons.
The artillery of both sides was reported to have performed well.
Priced at $140 and available now, be sure to order yours soon as judging by
pre-orders this is going to be a popular piece. Please note there are no
plans for a B version at this moment in time.
World War 2
Our Fallschirmjager have proved to be very popular and this is the first of
4 all new sets with a further 4 to follow in the new year.
FJ024 features a Jager taking aim at the enemy with the world's first
automatic Assault rifle, the Stg 44. This great looking figure comes in a
Normandy or Battle of the Bulge version, is priced at $40 and limited to 100
in each variant.
FJ025; The 120mm mortar was a heavy mortar copied from Soviet examples
captured during the early stages of operation Barbarossa. It was then
utilised to great effect by the Germans normally in the defensive role or as
a precursor to offensive attacks to soften up enemy positions. It was unique
from other mortars in that the base plate was adjustable to suit the angle
of required fire, the base plate was also fitted with a large spade so it
could also be dug in to provide greater support when the mortar was fired.
This 2 man set comprises an officer looking at his watch as he prepares to
give a young Jager the order to drop a round down the tube, comes with
plenty of spare ammunition boxes and is a very unique addition for WW2
collectors. Priced at $125 and limited to 100 each of the Normandy and
Winter variants.
As its Christmas and we wanted to reward all you loyal Gunn Club members who
buy from direct us, we are therefore delighted to include FREE of charge 1 x
FJ023 tank hunter (pictured attached in the 120mm Battery Set Up photo
above) with each FJ025 mortar set purchased thru us via our website, on the
telephone or email. Just state your preference for the version of FJ023 that
you prefer and we will include this free with your shipment. Free set on a
first come first serve basis with limited number available please note.
FJ026; War invariably brings casualties and this young paratrooper has
fallen to the ground after succumbing to his wounds. A sitting wounded
figure will follow early next year and will make a great accompaniment to
this figure and ultimately to your diorama. Priced at $40 and comes in 3
versions, Normandy (A), Winter (B) or Desert (C) with each piece limited to
100 in number except the Desert version which is limited to 50 pieces.
FJ030 comprises a 2 man MG42 team laying down covering fire for their
comrades. We have made 3 variants of this beautiful looking set, Normandy,
Winter and Desert. Priced at $79 and limited to 100 in each variant except
the Desert which is limited to 50 pieces worldwide. We have not yet received
our full complement of these figures but will try to fulfil all orders on a
first come first serve basis, any shortfall on these orders will be made up
in January 2016.
LUFT021: Our second variant of our recently sold out Hans Phillip pilot
figure, this time with snow on the base and sporting a brown leather jacket
plus the units fox cub! Limited to 70 pieces worldwide and priced $40 per
figure.
That's all for December, I want to wish you all a happy Christmas and a big
thank you for all your support during the past 12 months. In January we
should see the new Romans and the RS Jungle Hut plus a very nice selection
of wooden aircraft. The new Romans are showing or will be showing soon on
the Workshop page of our website (www.tomgunn.co.uk) already with a surprise
variant not seen before!
Best wishes
The Gunn Team
Oh dear, I see the King's German Legion figures failed to appear on parade.
Any idea when they will now be available?
End of January I now suspect but there will be 3 of them!
That's good new Tom,
and then the next month may we be seeing more Landwehr figures, like the officer, drummer and standard bearer,
just to keep us NAP collectors happy ???
John
Dear All
A short run of figures this month due to the London show and upcoming
Christmas holidays making December one of those frantic months where we try
to get everything in our stall, out as early as possible!
The French Foreign Legion
FFL047/48/49 comprises a 2 man Legionnaire crew desperately trying to get a
75mm mountain gun into action before they are overwhelmed by the locals!
Although not readily available to the Legion, artillery as and when it when
it could be procured including various mountain guns of all nationalities,
were pressed into service as well as heavier artillery pieces. The advantage
of mountain artillery is that it can normally be dismantled and stowed on
pack animals or can even be manhandled from one position to another by the
crew. When fighting local indigenous tribes who had no artillery, any
artillery the French could muster invariably made them king of the
battlefield. Our set comes with cannon, 2 crew figures, spare artillery
case/shells and is limited to 100 pieces worldwide.
Our Mountain Gun is based on the 1904 Ehrhardt design which was of 7.5cm
calibre (M.08) and replaced older mountain guns of 7.0 cm (M.98) and 6.0 cm
(C75) calibre. The trail legs could be retracted which gave this artillery
piece a rather unique look. Our gun has been hastily brought into action
before the column is over-run, we have therefore omitted the small spade at
the rear (picture attached) as we wanted to replicate the gun 'dug in' as it
would have been during action. Guns of this type were also supplied to the
Portuguese colonial forces in Angola in 1906 (where are legionnaires have
acquired theirs from?) and to the Dutch East Indian Army. An interesting
occurrence happened at the battle of Naulila in Southern Angola during
December 1914 when German M.08s came up against similar Portuguese weapons.
The artillery of both sides was reported to have performed well.
Priced at $140 and available now, be sure to order yours soon as judging by
pre-orders this is going to be a popular piece. Please note there are no
plans for a B version at this moment in time.
Hi Wayne and Thomas Gunn Team,
An on time adjustment to the print here published related to the FFL Mountain gun being released and extensively comented in this thread and in another in the same forum....is more than due....
Upon a quick research on the proposed FFL Mountain gun that you are now offering and knowing of the mix up your research team on the historical data sheet used to dedut the gun....making reference to it as being an 1904 Ehrhardt design 7.5cm mountain gun,to the point of adding an extract of the Ehrhardt histiorcal data sheet to the gun presentation is upsetting!Having so done after the first alerts of the mistake... up front assumes that the readers and collectors have little or no knowledge of historical facts and are deprived of the any obseravtion faculty..{sm2}....if the historical aspect could require a more observant eye , the mismatch of the gun breech stands out....That is the breech of the Ehrhardt ( sliding block type ) as seen in the histirocal Picture added to the thread by Wayne and the actual TGM gun ( swivel breeach opening type) would have been enough for the " historical" note to be dropped for good and not used at the product presentation...adding to that the recognition of having omitted the spade at the end of the trail...shows sparse to little artillery practical knowledge.....not to mention pure Newton´s Laws....the " kick the gun produces after it fires, and the absence of the spade, would have knocked anyone behind it ' in the so said "dug" in position unconcious...sic" we have therefore omitted the small spade at the rear (picture attached) as we wanted to replicate the gun 'dug in' as it would have been during action. Guns of this type were also supplied to the Portuguese colonial forces in Angola in 1906 (where are legionnaires have acquired theirs from?) and to the Dutch East Indian Army......"
Let me add that, you would have been more fair if you came forward and said that your offer is a direct copy of your Japanese 75mm mountian gun,....and I still would see it as a way out to keep the type 41 ( very nice and round little set - if I may say and if I were a Pacific War collector would have one ) as a FFL ordnance and leave it at that.....Do not refer to/insit on it being an Ehrhardt 1904 75mm, refer to it by it´s correct name the Krupp M1908 Mountain gun....Sold to The Japanese under contract as the 75mm type 41. Hence it is a defacto Krupp produced for export to the Japanese Army ( only the Japanse Army) as you can see by the extract below and the subsequent pictures of the actual Krupp gun....
" Krupp was quite open to modifying the design of its export guns to suit the needs of a customer. With the M1908 mountain gun the design was fundamentally changed to suit Japanese requirements. The resulting gun had a very long service life with the Imperial Japanese Army (IJA) even when its original role of mountain gun was superceded by more modern guns such as the Type 94 75mm Mountain Gun.
A little of the Krupp´s M1908 Mountain gun data sheet being:
The IJA had a preference for interrupted screw breeches so the M1908 had such - the breech design looks as if it was based on contemporary Schneider breeches. The barrel on the M1908 was longer (L/19.3) than earlier Krupp mountain guns presumably to give longer max. ranges although the gun was somewhat heavier than the earlier guns. The carriage was completely redesigned compared to the earlier mountain guns. The typical box section, or open box on the M1904, trail was replaced with tubular elements. The carriage looked like a large tuning fork in plan. The rear part of the trail which carried the spade could be folded over the front tubes. The trail design was more like that on Ehrhardt (Rheinmetall) guns than a Krupp design. The M1908 could be broken down into 6 horse loads. In part, this may reflect that the M1908 was somewhat heavier than earlier guns but may be a recognition that Asian pack horses were smaller than their Western counterparts. The gun could be man-packed by a large team and often was in rough jungle country like New Guinea.
If you then adjust your story to that it is a Krupp gun you can now say is that the Legion acquired a lot of these and not Ehrhardt design 7.5cms and you can save face on this one.......How they were acquired we could leave to the collectors imagination to figure out :salute:: how the twisted international arms trade was back in the early 20th century.........{sm0}^&cool
Cheers
Artillery_Crazy
Thanks AC for all your research and help in this matter, its all been very interesting to read and has given us some new ideas for future artillery projects.
Best wishes Vicki