HELP - Deauville Model Kit ?? (1 Viewer)

[Obee]

Hi,

I was wondering if any of your 'learned' gentlemen or ladies can give me any information about a US Model Kit maker, Deauville Models?

A friend of mine obtained for me a wonderful boxed diorama 54mm metal kit of Blucher at Ligny - 1815 at the recent East Coaster Toy Show in New York. It contains two horse, and 5 figures, a reclining Blucher pinned by his dead horse, a General Officer, and 3 Prussian cavalrymen with a standing horse as well as alsorted battlefield debris such as hats, muskets, pouches, belts and swords. Each of the figures is individually wrapped in plasick bags and then stapled close. Included in the box is a coloured photo as a painting and layout guide and contains full painting instructions.

The only clue to the makers is the name Deauville Models Kit NG 106 and the address PO Box 1047 Decatur Illinois 62525.

It looks like it could have been made in the 1960's or 70's but as I can't find anything about this company, I hope some else may be able to help me find out any information.

I'm planing on assembling and painting these figures, as I'm sure they will look great with my 'lick of paint' and I'll keep you posted with updates of the progress.

Regards,

John

 

[marco55]

I've bought a lot of kits over the years from a lot of different companies but never heard of that one.
Mark

 

[theBaron]

Hi, John, sounds vaguely familiar. I'll check my resources tonight when I get home and see if I can find any references.

Prost!
Brad

 

[theBaron]

Garratt to the rescue! I thought the name sounded familiar, and there's an article in Garratt's Encyclopedia:

"Deauville Models (John Stonesypher) Decatur, Illinois (1974- )
A retail shop, advertising a painting service. To this was added a small series of 54mm solids. In Vedette, 1974, Stonesypher advertised 150 models in kit form as being available. Whether these were ever issued is in doubt, Stonesypher making no response to numerous applications for them or at least for a list of them. (I take that to mean that Garratt made the request--Brad) However, a group of three Napoleonic figures in off-duty poses were eventually obtained. These proved interesting but not remarkable. In 1975, the name was changed to Deauville/Brigade, with Tom Crowfoot as designer. In the same year Deauville models was advertised under the blanket name New Hope Design, in England, and it appears that a two-way process was emerging, whereby some American models were being exported to England, and some English models finding their way from New Hope to Stonesypher. One instance is a set depicting Blücher being unhorsed at Ligny, consisting of five men and two horses, desinged in England, the men by John Patterson, the horses by William Taylor. (emphasis mine-Brad) A British nurse of the South African War period, looking remarkably like Nurse Cavell, designed by Roger Saunders, is a beautiful figure."​

I think I remember the name, from having read the cross-referenced article on New Hope Design at one time or another. That article also mentions the Blücher set.

There is probably a picture or two in my hardcopy references, such as old copies of Military Modelling or Campaigns, but it'll take a while to go through those.

Hope that helps, prost!
Brad

 

[Obee]

Brad,

you are BRILLIANT, thats just what I needed to know, therefore I've got a most unique kit.

I've scanned the photo that came with the kit, so no need to find one for me.

It looks just like the painting that depicts this incident, so the sculptor had captured the moment.

It maye be a few months fefore I get around to making and painting the figures, but I'll keep the forum posted about thier progress.

Thanks again,

John

 

[kogu]

That is a beautiful kit.
I look forward to see it assembled and painted.
Congratulations, John, for obtaining it.
Konrad

 

[theBaron]

You're very welcome, John, and thanks for posting the pic! I can see the kind of quality that we'd expect from the New Hope group. It's fun to find the more obscure items that Garratt describes, too.

Looking forward to your in-progress painting pics!

Prost!
Brad

 

[Hazebrouck]

I found this old thread and thought some of the painters may be interested in seeing another Deauville Models figure I recently purchased. It is kit no. B-6, city of London Imperial Volunteer 1900.

I have been working on it for the last two days and although the fit of the arms wasn't anything to write home about, after priming the figure today the sculpting is very well done. I thought it worth showing.

Note the snake belt and the C.I.V lettering on the slouch hat.

Is this a Roger Saunders figure perhaps?

Scott

 

[blaster]

Hi all,

An interesting thread and I was curious as to why Scott suggested the Deauville figure (1974 -) was sculpted by Roger Saunders. Saunders is famous for his Hornet range started in 1986, sculpting beautiful heads for conversions. It got me looking at the internet to see if Roger Saunders was active around 1974. He seems to be associated with Monarch figures.

http://www.greenwichgateway.com/hornetandwolf/
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/54mm-monarch-roger-saunders-ww1-253555533



I also came across some interesting sites on another iconic figure sculptor Chas Stadden and his influence on the Airfix 54mm figures.


http://www.peter-upton.co.uk/stadden.htm

http://michtoy.com/michtoy_search_p...=&action=listing&button=OK&pageNum_product=11


Above just for sharing.
Rgds Victor

 

[Obee]

Scott,

thanks for raising this thread again....

It reminds me that I have some figures to paint, so keep watching, they maybe out soon???

John

 

[Hazebrouck]

Hi all,

An interesting thread and I was curious as to why Scott suggested the Deauville figure (1974 -) was sculpted by Roger Saunders. Saunders is famous for his Hornet range started in 1986, sculpting beautiful heads for conversions. It got me looking at the internet to see if Roger Saunders was active around 1974. He seems to be associated with Monarch figures.

Hi Victor,

I collect and paint old figures and in particular New Hope Design kits. Brad's post about the association between New Hope and Deauville rang a few bells and the sculpting of this particular figure reminded me of the New Hope Schutztruppe Officer I painted a while back. I went through the painting leaflet that came with that kit and sure enough Roger Saunders was the sculptor of the four kits (H18-21) that made up the East Africa 1914 range.

I've attached two images of both figures together for comparison and I'm sure that the Deauville C.I.V figure is a Roger Saunders sculpt. The main giveaway is the hands of both figures are beautifully sculpted. Secondly the small physique across the chest area is common to both figures. Possibly he sculpted them like this as our ancestors were generally of a smaller frame then. I wish more figures were sculpted like these.

Maybe Trooper might be able to add a bit about Roger Saunders work.

New Hope also had an arrangement (at a later stage?) with Old Guard Miniatures in the States as well.

Those attachments are interesting by the way.

John,

Please post those figures you are painting at some stage- hopefully older figures!

I resurrected your thread as there doesn't seem to be a lot of information about Deauville Models and it might be a good thing for collectors to see a few figures on a single thread. Hope you don't mind.

Regards,

Scott

 

[theBaron]

Thanks for the links, Vic! That's a welcome addition to my reference material.

And Scott, interesting comparison between the two. I think you're right.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Ken & Ericka Osen/H&A Studio]

Hi there,
Back in the 1970s Military Models Distributors had two retail shops in the Detroit area that were called the Squadron Shop. Later they opened a few other shops in other parts of the country too.
I used to beg my mother to take me there until I finally got my driver's license to go myself. One of my friends managed to get a part time job at one of the shops so I visited fairly often until the shops closed.

I recall seeing plenty of kits from Deauville and New Hope design back then. To my eye there were clearly several different artists making patterns for them. Some appealed to me more than others and I bought a few.
At some point I am also sure they had an agreement with Osprey publishing as there were a fair number of offerings that were based on color plates in their books, including many of the Napoleonic titles.
I am sure that I still have a few kicking around somewhere myself.
I also recall that Deauville had a range of 1/35th scale metal figures designed for diorama use and these may have been sculpted by Tom Ferris.

There has always been interesting offerings in our hobby, but many of them are almost unknown as in the grand scheme of things the worldwide distribution has always been fairly small.

Ken

 

[marco55]

Dutkins sells New Hope.
Mark

 

[theBaron]

At some point I am also sure they had an agreement with Osprey publishing as there were a fair number of offerings that were based on color plates in their books, including many of the Napoleonic titles.

You're correct, Ken, New Hope Designs has a catalog of figures based on illustrations in Osprey's "Men At Arms" series. This Ziethen Hussar, for example, is from the first volume of the 3-book set on Frederick the Great's army:



They're really well done, the sculpting is detailed and the castings are pretty crisp, and they're a true 54mm, too.

Prost!
Brad

 

[blaster]

Hi Scott and all,

And guess what?

I went to the NHD wepage and they are now offering a 50% disc on all their available stock...

http://www.mbmmodels.com/1-32/newhope/newhopedesign.htm

For NHD, aren't all their bases a hexagon? I have quite a number of their pieces on my profile page.


Also, on the Planet Figure forum, there is a thread on Nostalgia and DEK Models and ATQM are mentioned if you are interested.
http://www.planetfigure.com/threads/all-this-nostalgia.50147/



Rgds Victor

 

[theBaron]

Hi, Vic, thanks for the heads-up about the sale!

For NHD, aren't all their bases a hexagon? I have quite a number of their pieces on my profile page.

I'm not sure if all of their kits have bases designed that way, though I'm pretty sure all of the Men at Arms series do. And it's not just that the base is hexagonal, but it's inscribed underneath with "New Hope Designs" around the perimeter and their logo in the center of the base.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Hazebrouck]

Here is the finished Deauville Models Boer War City of London Imperial Volunteer.

Anybody else have any of these figures to show? I would like to see the Boer War nurse that was mentioned in Garratt's book.

Ken,

Didn't Squadron have their own range of figures?

Scott

 

[Obee]

Scott,

thats a nice paint job you have done there, well done, and lets see some more of your work,

regards,

John

 

[Obee]

After a couple of years, I've finally got around to assebly and painting of this 1970's kit.

Its Blucher at Ligny, when his mount was shot out under him and he was pinned down, while the French cavalry charge past.



The figure are L-R : Aide de Campe, Blucher, 2 x Dragoon officers, Ulhan Trooper

Hope you like it,

John