Hitler didn' t salute Jesse Owens: FAKE. (1 Viewer)

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"After I got off the podium, I passed the grandstand d 'honor to return to the locker room. The Chancellor looked at me. He stood up and greeted me with a wave of his hand. I did the same, responding to the greeting. Journalists and writers showed bad taste handing down a 'hostility that, in fact, there' had never been, "writes in his autobiography," The Jesse Owens Story "(1970).

A few years ago the 'old German journalist Siegfried Mischner, present at the Games of '36, gave new life to telling the truth that he had seen with his own eyes Hitler shaking hands with Owens behind the scenes of' Olympiastadion "Owens had brought a photographer and, after the 'Olympics, he asked the press to correct an error that would drag on until today. No one gave him a straight. "

"Actually, my father never felt snubbed by Hitler "certified Marlene Owens (daughter)" In retrospect, my father was deeply hurt by the fact that Franklin Delano Roosevelt did not receive him at the White House. "
 
"After I got off the podium, I passed the grandstand d 'honor to return to the locker room. The Chancellor looked at me. He stood up and greeted me with a wave of his hand. I did the same, responding to the greeting. Journalists and writers showed bad taste handing down a 'hostility that, in fact, there' had never been, "writes in his autobiography," The Jesse Owens Story "(1970).

A few years ago the 'old German journalist Siegfried Mischner, present at the Games of '36, gave new life to telling the truth that he had seen with his own eyes Hitler shaking hands with Owens behind the scenes of' Olympiastadion "Owens had brought a photographer and, after the 'Olympics, he asked the press to correct an error that would drag on until today. No one gave him a straight. "

"Actually, my father never felt snubbed by Hitler "certified Marlene Owens (daughter)" In retrospect, my father was deeply hurt by the fact that Franklin Delano Roosevelt did not receive him at the White House. "

OK, so you're trying to establish a moral equivalency between Hitler and Nazi Germany, and Roosevelt and the US at the same time?
 
"After I got off the podium, I passed the grandstand d 'honor to return to the locker room. The Chancellor looked at me. He stood up and greeted me with a wave of his hand. I did the same, responding to the greeting. Journalists and writers showed bad taste handing down a 'hostility that, in fact, there' had never been, "writes in his autobiography," The Jesse Owens Story "(1970).

A few years ago the 'old German journalist Siegfried Mischner, present at the Games of '36, gave new life to telling the truth that he had seen with his own eyes Hitler shaking hands with Owens behind the scenes of' Olympiastadion "Owens had brought a photographer and, after the 'Olympics, he asked the press to correct an error that would drag on until today. No one gave him a straight. "

"Actually, my father never felt snubbed by Hitler "certified Marlene Owens (daughter)" In retrospect, my father was deeply hurt by the fact that Franklin Delano Roosevelt did not receive him at the White House. "

It is actually a fact that Hitler congratulated Owens while FDR did not, Plain and simple !

Wayne
 
Jesse Owens made the following comment:

"When I came back to my native country, after all the stories about Hitler, I couldn't ride in the front of the bus. I had to go to the back door. I couldn't live where I wanted. I wasn't invited to shake hands with Hitler, but I wasn't invited to the White House to shake hands with the President, either."

The comment is more about the state of race relations in the US at that time than Hitler or Nazi Germany. Let's not forget that the South was solid Democratic and FDR could not at that point in his Presidency afford to offend the Southern wing of the Party.

Also, Hitler got into hot water with the Olympic Committee by shaking only the hands of German athletes. He was given the choice of shaking the hands of all triumphant athletes or none at all. He chose the latter.
 
OK, so you're trying to establish a moral equivalency between Hitler and Nazi Germany, and Roosevelt and the US at the same time?



I don' t establish anything, this is only a part of an article translated from the main italian daily newspaper.It is litteraly what Owens and his daughter have said.And this fact will be shown in the coming in february film about Owen's life.
 
I don' t establish anything, this is only a part of an article translated from the main italian daily newspaper.It is litteraly what Owens and his daughter have said.And this fact will be shown in the coming in february film about Owen's life.

You highlighted the last line in your original post by placing it in a different font size. That had to be done deliberately; the formatting doesn't change on its own. That choice suggests that you wanted to draw special attention to that section of your text.
 
I don' t establish anything, this is only a part of an article translated from the main italian daily newspaper.It is litteraly what Owens and his daughter have said.And this fact will be shown in the coming in february film about Owen's life.

Just curious, if you didn't attempt to establish anything why did you make the post?
 
All,

I don't think Señor Adolfo saluted anyone, as HE was the one who was being saluted. As he had all the Reich and the World watching his every move at the Olympics, I doubt he would do anything to even acknowledge anyone or anybody that was not from the Fatherland. Hence, the grief he got from the Olympic Committee only acknowledging the German Olympians. By 1936, Germany was on it's way to becoming Hitlers Germany and the stakes were high for ole Adolfo. Remember Hitler never even met Stalin even though they signed a pact together agreeing not to invade each other. Basically, they were hommies-brothers from another mother-until Hitler broke his promise and invaded Russia.

But...maybe they did meet...who knows...they got a movie to sell.

John from Texas
 
Interesting topic.

Based on previous reading and watching of documentaries etc whenever 1936 Olympics came up I would think about Jesse Owens winning and the snub by Hitler. However if Hitler did not shake hands with all non German athletes then it could not explicitly be said he singled out Owens. However it does change the common view that he snubbed Owens when he in fact snubbed all.

One web page has the following two paras on the subject.

"Olympic protocol obliged Hitler to either receive all medal winners or none, and Hitler chose to receive none. Reports circulated that Hitler’s snub was intended to let him avoid shaking hands with “non-Aryans,” particularly Owens.

However, despite this plausible interpretation, the snub was disputed by Owens himself, who said: “Hitler had a certain time to come to the stadium and a certain time to leave. It happened that he had to leave before the victory ceremony after the 100 meters. But before he left I was on my way to a broadcast and passed his box. He waved at me and I waved back. I think it was bad taste to criticize the ‘man of the hour’ in another country.” To say that Owens had nothing to gain by speaking highly of Adolf Hitler would be an understatement at best, so we have to assume that this is honest. Indeed, he compared Hitler favorably to US President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who also didn’t invite Owens to shake his hand".

Even now there are still varied accounts and at least two witnesses who say Hitler did acknowledge Owens.

An account by a German reporter at the games can be seen here. He even says Owens carried around a photo of him and Hitler.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ands-black-1936-Olympic-hero-Jesse-Owens.html

In 2014, Eric Brown, British fighter pilot and test pilot, the Fleet Air Arm's most decorated living pilot, independently stated in a BBC documentary "I actually witnessed Hitler shaking hands with Jesse Owens and congratulating him on what he had achieved." Additionally, an article in The Baltimore Sun in August 1936 reported that Hitler sent Owens a commemorative inscribed cabinet photograph of himself (one has to wonder if all athletes received this).

Clearly Poppo had a purpose in mentioning this and highlighting his last sentence. Nevertheless the fact is Owens was not treated well upon his return to the USA and there are multiple examples of his treatment. Jazzeum explained the politics of it for Rooseveldt which has to be viewed in light of attitudes at that time.

If Owens had done that in Rio this year he would be set for life financially.

However one German athlete deserves a mention.

Owens he went on to compete in the long jump, capturing the gold in that event as well. Perhaps most remarkable about this event is the man who won the silver medal behind Owens, a German named Luz Long.During the competition, he gave Owens advice on his jumps, helping him qualify for the final after a rough start for the American. Then, when Owens bested him to win the event, Long was the first to congratulate him, proving that not all Germans shared Hitler’s racist beliefs. Indeed, Owens himself was not ignorant to the significance of Long’s kindness.”It took a lot of courage for him to befriend me in front of Hitler,” Owens said. “You can melt down all the medals and cups I have and they wouldn’t be a plating on the 24-karat friendship I felt for Luz Long at that moment. Hitler must have gone crazy watching us embrace.”

More on the relationship here
http://www.spiegel.de/international...iendship-between-owens-and-long-a-811582.html
 
Seems Eric Brown is still alive. He has had an incredible aviation career.

Captain Eric Melrose "Winkle" Brown, CBE, DSC, AFC, Hon FRAeS, RN (born 21 January 1919) is a British former Royal Navy officer and test pilot who flew 487 different types of aircraft, more than anyone else in history.He also holds the world record for most aircraft carrier landings performed (2,407)[1] and is the Fleet Air Arm's most decorated living pilot. He achieved several "firsts" in naval aviation, including the first landing on an aircraft carrier of a twin engined aircraft, an aircraft with a tricycle undercarriage and a jet propelled aircraft.

His Wiki entry worth a read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Brown_(pilot). Does not mention the handshake but does mention him being at Olympics with his father and meeting top Luftwaffe pilots.
 
Just curious, if you didn't attempt to establish anything why did you make the post?



Because I have always know( like everybody) that Hitler didn't salute Owen, and only yesterday I discovered that he did. And this fact was just an invention, propaganda made by american journalists.Historical facts have to be known even if they can hurt someone or many. Political correctess, lies, fairy tales are not useful, in my opinion.
 
Because I have always know( like everybody) that Hitler didn't salute Owen, and only yesterday I discovered that he did. And this fact was just an invention, propaganda made by american journalists.Historical facts have to be known even if they can hurt someone or many. Political correctess, lies, fairy tales are not useful, in my opinion.

Bottom Line.......Who Cares ???

Wayne
 
Interesting as there is a new movie coming out about Jesse Owens with film clips portraying the 1936 Berlin Olympics

Wayne
 
I am more interested in the accomplishments of Jesse Owens
than anything about hitler.
 

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