How do you all like the new K&C packaging? (1 Viewer)

[jazzeum]

On another thread, OzDigger voiced a concern about the ties digging into the paint. The way these ties are, I don't see that as a distinct possibility.

 

[OzDigger]

On another thread, OzDigger voiced a concern about the ties digging into the paint. The way these ties are, I don't see that as a distinct possibility.

I have really good eyesight, and I do see the potential for those ties causing some damage.

 

[jazzeum]

I have really good eyesight, and I do see the potential for those ties causing some damage.

On what basis? They are not straight metal but have some insulation. If you're going to say something, you need to back it up.

 

[OzDigger]

I based my belief that the ties have the potential to cause damage on the pics posted by Steven on post #23. Imo there doesn't appear to be sufficient padding to me as such ties (even with plastic insulation) are usually wound rather tight and the metal is soft being mostly Tin or Zinc, depending upon the alloy used.

To date I have only received one tie wrapped item being an LAH figure. The wire was tight and the box was so cheap looking (it almost fell apart in my hands) I was inclined to refuse it. But their figures are so nice

That said, I'll actually be pleased to be proved wrong and the photos of the boxed 10.5 cm gun that Steven took indicate the boxes on the larger pieces are ok - but not great. If they put some more padding under the wires I'd be even happier.

Btw Brad, I'm not out to sabotage K & C in any way by my comments here or on other threads. I just want some more consideration for collectors that want reasonable access to their pieces at reasonable prices. Together with some improvement in the track detail - which even you have recently admitted could be better.

 

[jazzeum]

Oz,

I didn't think you were out to sabotage K & C. I think you're raising some legitimate issues. I don't necessarily agree with you on everything. I can't say I'm wild about the new packaging either. However, if it gets to me safe and sound, then I suppose I have no trouble with it. Interestingly, the Interrogating the Prisoner set came in the traditional way. It could also be a cost measure. The EA 25 Pound Gun came in two different boxes, whereas the new artillery piece comes in one box, albeit bigger.

 

[Eazy]

Part of the left stabilizer on the 10.5 gun was bent when i got it out of the packaging and a bit of paint had come off.

In all honesty this was the first K&C vehicle I'd had that had arrived damaged so it's inevitable it happened with the new packaging.

As for the packaging itself it looked kind of cheap to me. Undoing all those ties reminded me of opening plastic action figures or the accessories on an FOV tank.

Overall the packaging had a much more disposable feel than usual and I would not enjoy trying to get the figures and gun back into the box.

 

[Eazy]

Ironically Wellington, most of us WWII collectors want more individual pieces. But I have to agree that 10.5 cm cannon set looks sweet. I'm be a bit worried about that tie over the barrel, best to remove it if you don't intend to display it soon as it could cause some damage.

Actually as a WW2 collector I prefer the sets that give you a vehicle or gun with some figures. I feel the vehicle and figure sets seem to offer good value for money as it feels more like a complete package.

The thought of single figures doesn't appeal to me all that much.

 

[CannonFodder1971]

Part of the left stabilizer on the 10.5 gun was bent when i got it out of the packaging and a bit of paint had come off.

In all honesty this was the first K&C vehicle I'd had that had arrived damaged so it's inevitable it happened with the new packaging.

As for the packaging itself it looked kind of cheap to me. Undoing all those ties reminded me of opening plastic action figures or the accessories on an FOV tank.

Overall the packaging had a much more disposable feel than usual and I would not enjoy trying to get the figures and gun back into the box.

The '88' suffered badly in the white sytrofoam, the sheer weight of the peice shredding the stuff. Of the 3 88s I received (from 3 different dealers) there were 2 damaged. I'd be willing to see if the new packaging is any more protective. On the approximate percentages to date it'd appear that the 10.5 cm gun is doing well in the new packaging. But I'll wait and see.

 

[halomeeps]

I don't like the wires, I just rec'd my AK29 and feel the wire could ruin the paint/ finish on the vehicle.

 

[panda1gen]

Externally I think the new packing is superb but confess that I'm not keen on the internal bubble stuff and wire - I think I would prefer some kind of foam.

 

[zup66]

Externally I think the new packing is superb but confess that I'm not keen on the internal bubble stuff and wire - I think I would prefer some kind of foam.

i think between the tires and the soldiers or veichle a little strip of foam works good to preserve the paint is a my opinion,i love the k&c but to much item with damage from factory,

zup

 

[zup66]

hi all, the new packages with wires are traps for the soldiers and they do not resolve the problems of the scratches on the paintwork or slight bend

i dont believe is not possible to do better

viva l'ITALIA

 

[desk11desk12]

Andy:

I know my opinion is probably contrary to most KC collectors view and frankly I'm surprised myself. Good job with the new packaging.

I just dismantled my huge Afrika Korp diorama and finished repacking the numerous KC AK sets back into their respective boxes.

Surprisingly the easiest and fastest sets to repack were the two (2) AK27 (10.5 howitzer set with five figures). Both the gun and the figures easily sat back into the original plastic packaging without the typical guess work involved with the old foam packaging. I saved the tie wraps, however I didn't use them but I have them if I ever decide to transport them.

Once the figures and gun was safely placed in the box the plastic form cover easily sat on top of the entire set without trouble. Sometimes tradition (e.g. foam packaging) is left to found memories and should be moved aside for progress. Given your new packaging continues to be easily reused for repacking purposes for us collectors; keep up the good work.

Thanks,

Carlos

 

[Njja]

I found the new packaging to be a little difficult. The coated wire seems to

be in some cases made too snug and despite the coating it still can chip the

paint it comes in contact with.

I have recently had conversations with a couple of fellow collectors that

have experienced problems with small chips.

I think Andy C is making every effort to ensure his products arrived in top

condition to his customers, but the coated wire ties can be troublesome.

Njja

 

[desk11desk12]

Yeah Njja,

You have a point, I do remember having to work carefully to remove the tie wraps to prevent possible damage and it was a bit problematic. However, repacking the sets was a snap.

Carlos

 

[Louis Badolato]

You guys are getting me worried. I haven't room to display the new stuff, so I have been leaving it unopened in the box. Now I am afraid to unpack it for fear of finding damage.

 

[desk11desk12]

You guys are getting me worried. I haven't room to display the new stuff, so I have been leaving it unopened in the box. Now I am afraid to unpack it for fear of finding damage.

Louis,

Don't worry you'll escape damage. Just be careful removing the tie wraps and you'll be fine.

Carlos

 

[Njja]

You guys are getting me worried. I haven't room to display the new stuff, so I have been leaving it unopened in the box. Now I am afraid to unpack it for fear of finding damage.

Louis I would recommend opening and checking all your new items just to

be sure. I'm sure Andy C will have his new packing perfected in short order.

Njja

 

[zup66]

Louis,

Don't worry you'll escape damage. Just be careful removing the tie wraps and you'll be fine.

Carlos

in some cases this not enough, because the eventually damages are for the black plastic base, i hope is only my case