I see a T-34 on the workbench!!!!! (1 Viewer)

Just took a look and I like it. It has the standard look and is a classic, very much needed in our hobby.....surprised nobody else has done it. :confused: Wasn't it the most widely manufactured tank in WWII? ^&confuse
 
It will be interesting to see how well Russians sell this year, since soon FL's line will not be alone. I swore to myself that I would really cut back on WWII to pursue other ranges. Then I finally bought 2 FL WWII figures. OK, so now I will just get a couple more German s to have a small squad working its way from building to building. Then FL releases a beautiful T-34. Now I am thinking those Germans are ducking behind a building with this baby approaching, maybe with a few infantry. It's a slippery slope.
 
6th Wisconsin said:
It will be interesting to see how well Russians sell this year, since soon FL's line will not be alone. I swore to myself that I would really cut back on WWII to pursue other ranges. Then I finally bought 2 FL WWII figures. OK, so now I will just get a couple more German s to have a small squad working its way from building to building. Then FL releases a beautiful T-34. Now I am thinking those Germans are ducking behind a building with this baby approaching, maybe with a few infantry. It's a slippery slope.
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.... with an 80 degree angle. But you will like the ride. And you are joined by many. :)
 
Simpson & his donkey. said:
This maybe a dumb question but are the tanks made from a solid piece of resin or in panels like a plastic model. Simmo.
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The FL vehicle models are hollow.

Cyber Field Marshall said:
Just took a look and I like it. It has the standard look and is a classic, very much needed in our hobby.....surprised nobody else has done it. :confused: Wasn't it the most widely manufactured tank in WWII? ^&confuse
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Indeed it was.

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Cyber Field Marshall said:
Just took a look and I like it. It has the standard look and is a classic, very much needed in our hobby.....surprised nobody else has done it. :confused: Wasn't it the most widely manufactured tank in WWII? ^&confuse
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Yes as Frank's table shows - almost 60,000 T-34s were produced. The Sherman was second at just under 50,000. To show the material advantage the Allies had, Germany produced only 27,000 tanks of all types including Panzer I, Panzer II and P38 (t). The most numerous were the Panzer IV at 8800, the Panther at 6000 and the Panzer III at 5800 - those 3 tanks were 75% of German tank production.. The Allies produced as many T-34 or as many Shermans as all German AFVs based on a tank chasis. Total German AFVs on a tank chassis including tanks, tank destroyers, SPGs, etc was 50,000. The most used tank chassis for non-tank AFVs were the Panzer III chassis (10,600), 38(t) chassis (5300) and Panzer IV chassis (4700).

Terry
 
The numbers in the chart include both both 76mm and 85mm versions of the T-34. These numbers are for net new units and not refurbished tanks. For instance 183 Factory's numbers total 30,627 yet on May 26, 1945 the factory celebrated production of its 35,000th tank. This difference is due to battlefield rebuilds being counted as new tanks. Both 76mm and 85mm versions were produced in 1944. Total losses of the T-34 in WWII were approx. 45,000. This is one of the reasons I struggle with the T-34 being classified as the best tank of the war.
 
fmethorst said:
The numbers in the chart include both both 76mm and 85mm versions of the T-34. These numbers are for net new units and not refurbished tanks. For instance 183 Factory's numbers total 30,627 yet on May 26, 1945 the factory celebrated production of its 35,000th tank. This difference is due to battlefield rebuilds being counted as new tanks. Both 76mm and 85mm versions were produced in 1944. Total losses of the T-34 in WWII were approx. 45,000. This is one of the reasons I struggle with the T-34 being classified as the best tank of the war.
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I agree - I find it hard to accept that the T-34 was the best tank of the war. A careful look at the info on the T-34/76 makes it comparable to the Sherman that was maligned as being a poor tank. It had some positives like wide tracks and the Christie suspension, but the 76mm gun was nothing special and the T-34 suffered from "soft" steel turret armour and a 2 man turret. The T-34/85 was comparable to the Firefly.

Terry
 
fmethorst said:
The numbers in the chart include both both 76mm and 85mm versions of the T-34. These numbers are for net new units and not refurbished tanks. For instance 183 Factory's numbers total 30,627 yet on May 26, 1945 the factory celebrated production of its 35,000th tank. This difference is due to battlefield rebuilds being counted as new tanks. Both 76mm and 85mm versions were produced in 1944. Total losses of the T-34 in WWII were approx. 45,000. This is one of the reasons I struggle with the T-34 being classified as the best tank of the war.
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I thoght that by 1944 all the factories had been retooled to make the T-34/85? Was there much T-34/76 production in 1944?

Terry
 
Phantom Warrior said:
I agree - I find it hard to accept that the T-34 was the best tank of the war.
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I think it could be said that it was the right tank for the right army. One has to keep in mind the callous disregard the soviet hq had for their own troops. We all heard the joke of how Zhukov cleared minefields...well this week I had a chance to read old issues of the Military Engineer & the soviets published quite a few papers in there during the war. Their methods of building a bridge were equally as brutal.
Officers were quick to sacrifice troops to get any objective met and that surely applied to tankers as well.

A couple other points are that Shemans outperformed T-34s in Korea and that was with well trained green troops who weren't really motivated vs. a blood thirsty veteran enemy.

I recall seeing a reference to a postwar German analysis of the T-34 & why it wasn't selected for direct copy...I'll have to hunt that one down.
 
Blowtorch said:
I think it could be said that it was the right tank for the right army. One has to keep in mind the callous disregard the soviet hq had for their own troops. We all heard the joke of how Zhukov cleared minefields...well this week I had a chance to read old issues of the Military Engineer & the soviets published quite a few papers in there during the war. Their methods of building a bridge were equally as brutal.
Officers were quick to sacrifice troops to get any objective met and that surely applied to tankers as well.

A couple other points are that Shemans outperformed T-34s in Korea and that was with well trained green troops who weren't really motivated vs. a blood thirsty veteran enemy.

I recall seeing a reference to a postwar German analysis of the T-34 & why it wasn't selected for direct copy...I'll have to hunt that one down.
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here it is if anyone wants to hunt for it. I don't have it myself
 
Phantom Warrior said:
I thoght that by 1944 all the factories had been retooled to make the T-34/85? Was there much T-34/76 production in 1944?

Terry
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Factory........112.........183........174
T-34/76.......795.......1883.......1163
T-34/85.....2953.......6583.......1000

The numbers don't totally jive with the earlier chart but they are close.
 
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