I'm fed up off having no Brits (1 Viewer)

[panda1gen]

I am not one to moan .......LOL.........but Tommy patrol is probably my favourite set. It would be nice if I could stand it next to some other late war British or Commonwealth infantry - or even a tank - all those Germans but so few ordinary Commonwealth troops (as opposed to the marines - paras etc) . PBI - The real heroes like the GIs. Moan moan moan Does proper infantrry not sell???? I would buy some when I save up.

 

[Harrytheheid]

I am not one to moan .......LOL.........but Tommy patrol is probably my favourite set. It would be nice if I could stand it next to some other late war British or Commonwealth infantry - or even a tank - all those Germans but so few ordinary Commonwealth troops (as opposed to the marines - paras etc) . PBI - The real heroes like the GIs. Moan moan moan Does proper infantrry not sell???? I would buy some when I save up.

Tommy Patrol is one of my favourite sets as well. It just seems to depict what we see in the old newsreels so perfectly.....So some other late war brit/commonwealth troop would certainly get my vote.

Cheers
H

 

[panda1gen]

Tommy Patrol is one of my favourite sets as well. It just seems to depict what we see in the old newsreels so perfectly.....So some other late war brit/commonwealth troop would certainly get my vote.

Cheers
H

H - Thirty Corps are looking a bit light - maybe reinforcements on the way?

 

[Canadian Samurai]

Add my vote to more Normandy and late war commonwealth infantry. I just got the Commonwealth MP on the motorcycle from the D-day line (I think he's supposed to be a Canadian), and he's very well done. This line could have a lot of potential: Firefly Sherman, Land Mattress rocket launcher, "Buffalo" and "Ram Kangaroo" APCs. Maybe since K&C focused this year on expanding their FOB British line with action poses, they'll do the same next year for 1944+ Commonwealth.

 

[steveo]

Brits don't sell, do they?Most of the D-day retired items seem to be the British/commonwealth items?

 

[OldCelt]

Brits don't sell, do they?Most of the D-day retired items seem to be the British/commonwealth items?

The reason thy're retired is because they did SELL!
I got mine just in time!!!
O.C.

 

[Harrytheheid]

H - Thirty Corps are looking a bit light - maybe reinforcements on the way?

Who knows Panda???
I'll get Missus Heid to consult the chicken bones or the goat entrails and get back to you on her predictions......If I can ground her broom for long enough that is....!!!!


Cheers
H

 

[damian]

I didn't see any Brits in Saving Private Ryan.
( Dig in for incomming)
Regards
Damian

 

[Harrytheheid]

I didn't see any Brits in Saving Private Ryan.
( Dig in for incomming)
Regards
Damian

That's cos we weren't on the movie set Damian.......
Seriously, SPR was (and I think, still is) responsible for a whole bunch of young people on both sides of the pond beginning to take an interest in the events of 6th June 1944. So as such, I really don't care that the Brit contribution is non-existent in the movie. It does after all focus on the American effort - and an entirely American storyline - and why not?.
We in the West owe so much to those incredibly brave men (of all nationalities) who participated in Overlord.

Cheers
H

 

[Louis Badolato]

I didn't see any Brits in Saving Private Ryan.
( Dig in for incomming)
Regards
Damian

Maybe that's because they had been carrying the free world's water on their own from 1940 until the Russians and us got in the game a couple of years later, and they needed a break. Oh, but that's right, they were a couple of beaches over, getting stuck into the Nazi's on the road to Caan.

 

[Harrytheheid]

Maybe that's because they had been carrying the free world's water on their own from 1940 until the Russians and us got in the game a couple of years later, and they needed a break. Oh, but that's right, they were a couple of beaches over, getting stuck into the Nazi's on the road to Caan.

That's right Louis, we were a couple of beaches over the way.......
I don't mind in the slightest bit that SPR doesn't depict any Brit contribution. Like I said in my previous post, the movie focusses on an entirely American storyline - and why not?
"The Longest Day" remains my favourite D-Day movie, not least cos of the amazing Coup-de-Main on Pegasus Bridge.
BTW, I don't believe the Russians were part of the good guys club. In addition, just how do we know their casualty figures are strictly correct? Lots of misinformation there I think. (Ooops, my personal distaste for the Red Army showing just a little bit there).

Cheers
H

 

[Louis Badolato]

BTW, I don't believe the Russians were part of the good guys club. In addition, just how do we know their casualty figures are strictly correct? Lots of misinformation there I think. (Ooops, my personal distaste for the Red Army showing just a little bit there).

Cheers
H

Whether or not they were the good guys, we don't win the war without them - they faced 75% of the German forces.

 

[Combat]

I was just reading the white knuckle account in "The Day of Battle" about the British glider landings on Sicily. Lot's of bravery, but what a fiasco. The amazing thing is how many of the same mistakes were repeated by the allies on D-Day.

 

[jazzeum]

BTW, I don't believe the Russians were part of the good guys club. In addition, just how do we know their casualty figures are strictly correct? Lots of misinformation there I think. (Ooops, my personal distaste for the Red Army showing just a little bit there).

Cheers
H

Surely you're kidding. The Russian casualties (both combatants and non combatants) are staggering, in numbers that it's impossible for the mind to comprehend: combatants 11 million, non-combatants 12 million. As a percentage of total population, it was 13 percent. In comparison, the USA percentage was 0.32 percent and the UK was 0.94 percent.

I'm not sure why you say they were not part of the "good guys club." Was that because of what happened in the latter stages of World War II as they swept over Germany and formerly German occupied territories. Let's not forget that they were administering payback for what the Germans did to them. The German view of Russia and the east was as vermin to be exterminated. What the Germans and their vassals received in payback cannot even begin to compare what was done to Russia by the Army and the Einsatszgruppen. It was a brutish war with no quarter asked and none given.

 

[Eazy]

Maybe that's because they had been carrying the free world's water on their own from 1940 until the Russians and us got in the game a couple of years later, and they needed a break. Oh, but that's right, they were a couple of beaches over, getting stuck into the Nazi's on the road to Caan.

That's really well put Louis. I wish Ted Danson had had that line in SPR!

 

[Eazy]

Surely you're kidding. The Russian casualties (both combatants and non combatants) are staggering, in numbers that it's impossible for the mind to comprehend: combatants 11 million, non-combatants 12 million. As a percentage of total population, it was 13 percent. In comparison, the USA percentage was 0.32 percent and the UK was 0.94 percent.

I'm not sure why you say they were not part of the "good guys club." Was that because of what happened in the latter stages of World War II as they swept over Germany and formerly German occupied territories. Let's not forget that they were administering payback for what the Germans did to them. The German view of Russia and the east was as vermin to be exterminated. What the Germans and their vassals received in payback cannot even begin to compare what was done to Russia by the Army and the Einsatszgruppen. It was a brutish war with no quarter asked and none given.

No i think the Eastern Front was a case of bad guys versus bad guys really. Stalin wasn't exactly Cuddly Uncle Joe and was as much a maniac and mass murderer as Hitler.
The Soviets intention at the end was to occupy as much territory of eastern Europe as possible.
Britain entered the war ostensibly to protect Poland but ended the war seeing it occupied by a regime equally as hardline as the Nazis.

 

[jazzeum]

Maybe Stalin wasn't a nice guy -- and he wasn't -- but without him and the untold sacrifices the Soviet people (not just Russians but Georgians and Ukranians and other many groups within the USSR) made you would be speaking German and maybe so would we. The war was won by the USSR for the most part so let us never forget the debt that is owed to them. By ourselves (Commonwealth and Americans), the war would not have been won without sacrifices equivalent to what the USSR made.

That's a fact and no amount of sugar coating is going to change that.

 

[Rob]

That's really well put Louis. I wish Ted Danson had had that line in SPR!

Well said James.I love SPR.I had no problem with Brits not being in SPR,we wern't on Omaha were we.You wouldn't expect American troops to be in a film about Dunkirk or the attack on Merville battery?.However the throwaway remark about Monty was just not needed,it was just a pointless dig.

As for the Russians,whether we like them or not facts is facts.We could not have won the war without them.The sacrafice the Red Army and Russian populace made in ridding the world of the Nazi's was staggering.They were on our side and i for one am grateful for that.For an excellant description of what really went on try Max Hastings Armageddon,very good read.

Louis,once again an excellant post,thank you.

Rob

 

[Eazy]

Maybe Stalin wasn't a nice guy -- and he wasn't -- but without him and the untold sacrifices the Soviet people (not just Russians but Georgians and Ukranians and other many groups within the USSR) made you would be speaking German and maybe so would we. The war was won by the USSR for the most part so let us never forget the debt that is owed to them. By ourselves (Commonwealth and Americans), the war would not have been won without sacrifices equivalent to what the USSR made.

That's a fact and no amount of sugar coating is going to change that.

Yeah you're right Brad. The soviets paid a high price for victory but that high price perhaps came as much for the total disregard Stalin had for his people as from the Germans.

 

[Harrytheheid]

Surely you're kidding. The Russian casualties (both combatants and non combatants) are staggering, in numbers that it's impossible for the mind to comprehend: combatants 11 million, non-combatants 12 million. As a percentage of total population, it was 13 percent. In comparison, the USA percentage was 0.32 percent and the UK was 0.94 percent.

I'm not sure why you say they were not part of the "good guys club." Was that because of what happened in the latter stages of World War II as they swept over Germany and formerly German occupied territories. Let's not forget that they were administering payback for what the Germans did to them. The German view of Russia and the east was as vermin to be exterminated. What the Germans and their vassals received in payback cannot even begin to compare what was done to Russia by the Army and the Einsatszgruppen. It was a brutish war with no quarter asked and none given.

No I'm not kidding.....!!!!!
Don't fall into the same trap as FDR did. These are extremly BAAAAD people we're discussing. How much do we actually KNOW about the "reported" casualties on the EF.....and how much was just Uncle Joe's propaganda? Do remember, they were/are the masters of deception.....and at the same time, bear in mind how much I personally DESPISE the Red Army, who as far as I'm concerned were no better than the SS anyway.
And they were most definitely NOT part of the good guys club. Do you really believe that they gave a flying toss about the 2nd front? I don't think so...!!!

Cheers
H