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John visited Italy last June and met the collectors presenting some future wonderful FIW sets.
Unfortunately I was unable to be present at the meeting but luckily I met John in London at the last Toy Soldier Show before his travel to Italy. He was really nice to show me in advance the masters of the new Indians. Courteously when in Milan he left for me this stunning sculpture which I received a few days ago. At last I had time to take some pictures of this real masterpiece and I am proud to show it to you all. In my opinion one of the best set ever made by our artist.
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Carlo
 

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Even though I don't collect Jenkins anymore I may have to get this set.Stunning piece.
Mark
 
John's sculpting just keeps getting better and coupled with his creative poses he is really the master of our hobby.
 
NOBODY does action figures as well as John does and it's a certainty that NOBODY does Indians as well as John does. -- Al
 
Thats a really nice sculpt! I am finding that I am attracted to John's unpainted scupts w/ their extensive detail over his finished painted figures. Too bad they are not available unpainted.
 
that is a very dramatic pose/sculpt design that I will definitely add to my collection...

attaboy JJ!!!
 
NOBODY does action figures as well as John does and it's a certainty that NOBODY does Indians as well as John does. -- Al

I can't say much more that has already been said .... John's Indians are top-o-the-line!
--- Larry
 
I was curious...

does anybody know or can recognize the uniform of the British soldier...

I was just curious what battle he was going to represent the British in...

is it Monongahela?
 
My guess is this figure is for the 35th regiment at Fort William Henry - British column leaving the fort after the surrender to Montcalm. They needed to march 12-15 miles south to Fort Edward, still in British hands. I believe the British column marched out with their musket and arms, but no powder or shot.

General idea: British marching column with warriors eyeing the column and gathering loot. Many of the recent mounted warriors would be perfect for this scene, as one of the first items taken after the surrender by the Indians were the horses (the day before the column actually marched south).

So 35th column marching, 1 6-pounder (given to the British by Montcalm as a sign of a honorable surrender) with French and Indians lining the roadway heading to Fort Edward. Note: the vast majority of troops leaving Fort Edward would be leaving the British encampment on the adjacent hillside and not formal Fort William Henry. This encampment had horizontal log walls nearly identical to John's Fort Ticonderoga.

We have a significant display opportunity here ----- Fort Ticonderoga Walls (hilltop location - you can leave the tents up), British column leaving the camp (doubt if any wagons or much baggage), French and Indians along the road verbally harassing and eyeing the British, mounted Indians, some Indians looting, the Cora and Alice figures.......... OH, and Colonel Munro lives (so not the movie) !!!!
 
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The British column would have been in excess of 2,000 individuals. Of those taken captive by the Indians, the vast majority were ransomed (purchased) from the Indians by the French government once back in Canada and the individuals returned safely to British Colonies.
 
The British column would have been in excess of 2,300 individuals. Of those taken captive by the Indians, the majority were ransomed (purchased) from the Indians by the French government at Montreal and the individuals returned safely to British Colonies.

Of the 2,300 in the column leaving Fort William Henry on August 9th, approximately 1,783 individuals reached Fort Edward by August 31. An additional 217 individuals were returned to the British by Dec 31. Another 41 individuals were returned between 1758-1763 with 40 other dying while in captivity (French?) and 53 individuals last known to be with the French ---- this leaves about 174 individuals killed/unknown. Ian Steel concludes that at least 69 English were killed in the march, but the number could not have exceeded 184 individuals. During the war, the Canadians claimed to have shipped 1,320 prisoners to France including some from Fort William Henry, further clouding the issue and calculations.
 
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Ken...thanks for the reply...

so are you saying this figure is best suited for Battle of Quebec...which John has developed the 35th for already...

I was hoping he might be for Monongahela...

wouldn't the finished painting dictate his regiment?
 
The 35th is legitimate both Quebec and Fort William Henry, either works ---- the battles were several years apart.

If the British soldier is wearing white linen pants then the figure will definitely be for Monongahela (special issue by Braddock, replacing the traditional red pants of the 44th Regulars, summer heat consideration). If red pants, then leaning towards the 35th and Quebec and Fort William Henry. The facing colors are really very similar, 35th and 44th. Note: Some of the Monongahela figures issued by John (at least some of the officers) are in red pants. There are a number of Forum members could easily adapt a red pant figure to white pants.

For clarification: After the Fort William Henry, the Indian warriors headed home, but most would have had to pass by Montreal or Quebec City (water routes). It is at those locations and times when the French government would have ransomed back the English captives. The French, particularly Montcalm, felt compelled to ransom back the captives as the French failed to protect the British column returning to Fort William Henry following the surrender.

Other ideas:

In March or April of 1757, the 44th regiment left Fort William Henry and were replaced by the 35th under Colonel Monro --- a column of the 35th passing a column of the 44th marching in the opposite direction.

Even further stretch, many of the Snowshoes sets would be prefect for use at a Fort William Henry display (the failed French attempt to take Fort William Henry in March 1757 in a major snowstorm).
 
This figure looks to fit into the 35th Rgmt. - Double row of lace tape on the cuffs, and the waist coat is also edged with tape. So the waist coat is the regulation uniform and will be painted red along with the pants. This is how John is portraying the 35th. - The 44th coat cuffs have only one row of lace tape, and the waistcoat for Monongahela was unbleached linen and had no lace tape edging.
 
In the BM-03 Monongahela Set, the two officers are in red waistcoats and pants. But in BM-11 officer and BM-12 - (Orme), the figures have white waistcoats and pants. All the other BM 44th figures are in white waistcoats and pants as well, but none of these are officers. However, the Club Set of the Halkett officers (44th) has the standing officer (the son) in a red waistcoat and pants, while the prone figure (father) has a waistcoat and pants in what appears to be the facing color. Braddock himself has a fancy white waistcoat, but his pants are unique (light blue and dark blue, unsure what I am looking at on the figure).

What I am really looking forward to is comparing the BM-03 officers and the Halkett standing officer to the new 35th officer(s) ---- someone had access to a preview photo of a marching 35th officer (link buried somewhere in this thread, I think, try post #9). If close enough in general appearance, two 35th officers will be joining my marching column of the 44th (the neighbors won't be able to tell the difference). Right now, I am using some of the Quebec officers in my 44th column, it sounds a tad crazy, but it would be historically accurate for Monongahela (volunteer officers from those same "Quebec" regiments attached to Braddock's command, 1 killed/1 wounded).

The link in post 9 appears to show new walking-tracking Indians (probably my single favorite pose).
 
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