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can anyone share any details on the Texas Show and accommodations at the Menger Hotel...

in the past...

the show sponsors have brokered some pretty sweet "perk deals" for show guest that stay at the Menger Hotel...

discounted rates for show attendees/dealers...
sometimes free valet parking...
sometimes daily comp breakfast buffets...
etc...

any info you can share on Menger perks?
 
can anyone share any details on the Texas Show and accommodations at the Menger Hotel...

in the past...

the show sponsors have brokered some pretty sweet "perk deals" for show guest that stay at the Menger Hotel...

discounted rates for show attendees/dealers...
sometimes free valet parking...
sometimes daily comp breakfast buffets...
etc...

any info you can share on Menger perks?

The show's FB page at https://business.facebook.com/The-Texas-Toy-Soldier-Show-2022-147371847459121 says "Contact the Menger Hotel 210-223-4361 or at www.mengerhotel.com and ask about the special room rate for show attendees."


 
just called the Menger...

$139.00 discounted room rate $169.00...
$18.00 valet/parking discounted from $35...

no other perks...
 
My girlfriend works in the travel business.

During the past two or so years, hotels took the gas pipe, it's a miracle entire chains did not go under.

If she books rooms for a large group, hotels will do a few things for the group, but we're talking a large number of rooms, not a block of 20.

Granted, a group like the toy soldier show is renting out function rooms, but hotels would prefer to rent those rooms to weddings, anniversaries, sweet 16 parties, corporate functions, etc, etc where food and more to the point, booze is involved, not just renting a room full of tables.

Pretty sure that's why Andy packed that show in afew years ago; the new owners of the hotel wanted crazy money to rent out the function rooms, so he wisely walked.

This is the problem Matt from HB ran into with our local toy soldier show; the one hotel he was dealing with for years would never commit to a date 6 months out, which sucked for Matt as he wanted to let attendees of the Spring show know what date the Fall show would be on the post card he sent out/the flyers he had laid out in the lobby for the Fall show, a true captive audience.

They'd rather hold out/wait for a party to come along and rent the rooms for a function.

So he moved the show.

Then he moved it again.

Now it's ancient history.

A well known promoter here on the East Coast is running into the same issue, hotels don't want one day rentals on a weekend for a toy soldier show, which is why he's running shows now at VFW Halls and Bingo Halls and other such top shelf locations, which sucks for the dealers as they have to then find a hotel in the area with no discount for taking a block of rooms, hotels don't want his business.

As she said, the days of "greatly reduced rates/free this/free that" are over.

Hotels are like any other business; they exist to make money, not give extreme discounts.
 
A well known promoter here on the East Coast is running into the same issue, hotels don't want one day rentals on a weekend for a toy soldier show, which is why he's running shows now at VFW Halls and Bingo Halls and other such top shelf locations

My VFW Hall is gorgeous- I was actually quite surprised. Massive wood bar you can fit at least 50-75 people at, pool tables, one armed bandit gambling machines, outside patio to drop another 25-40 people at. The main floor would probably be very hard pressed to fit a show the size of Gettysburg into it much less something like the Texas one though. I have to think there is some allure to hosting it at a VFW though because it would most likely pique the interest of many vets which would help get some foot traffic. Ive considered hosting some wargames on the occasional weekend there to entertain us old armchair generals and/or to get a free beer lol. I take my wife and/or daughter there a few times a month for lunch- it's a good time.

Love the Zelensky quote too by the way- that was hilarious when I heard him say that! {sm4}
 
My VFW Hall is gorgeous- I was actually quite surprised. Massive wood bar you can fit at least 50-75 people at, pool tables, one armed bandit gambling machines, outside patio to drop another 25-40 people at. The main floor would probably be very hard pressed to fit a show the size of Gettysburg into it much less something like the Texas one though. I have to think there is some allure to hosting it at a VFW though because it would most likely pique the interest of many vets which would help get some foot traffic. Ive considered hosting some wargames on the occasional weekend there to entertain us old armchair generals and/or to get a free beer lol. I take my wife and/or daughter there a few times a month for lunch- it's a good time.

Love the Zelensky quote too by the way- that was hilarious when I heard him say that! {sm4}


Ok, how about a Knights of Columbus Hall then?.....................don't get me wrong, I'm sure your VFW hall is nice, but my point was it's tough to run a show in a site like that as the dealers have to hunt around for a hotel, we prefer the show is in a function room of a hotel to make things simple and easy.

Things are tough enough, what with the price of gas being what it is, every dollar counts and a show in a hotel at least offers the opportunity for a reduced rate on the room.................
 
My girlfriend works in the travel business.

During the past two or so years, hotels took the gas pipe, it's a miracle entire chains did not go under.

If she books rooms for a large group, hotels will do a few things for the group, but we're talking a large number of rooms, not a block of 20.

Granted, a group like the toy soldier show is renting out function rooms, but hotels would prefer to rent those rooms to weddings, anniversaries, sweet 16 parties, corporate functions, etc, etc where food and more to the point, booze is involved, not just renting a room full of tables.

Pretty sure that's why Andy packed that show in afew years ago; the new owners of the hotel wanted crazy money to rent out the function rooms, so he wisely walked.

This is the problem Matt from HB ran into with our local toy soldier show; the one hotel he was dealing with for years would never commit to a date 6 months out, which sucked for Matt as he wanted to let attendees of the Spring show know what date the Fall show would be on the post card he sent out/the flyers he had laid out in the lobby for the Fall show, a true captive audience.

They'd rather hold out/wait for a party to come along and rent the rooms for a function.

So he moved the show.

Then he moved it again.

Now it's ancient history.

A well known promoter here on the East Coast is running into the same issue, hotels don't want one day rentals on a weekend for a toy soldier show, which is why he's running shows now at VFW Halls and Bingo Halls and other such top shelf locations, which sucks for the dealers as they have to then find a hotel in the area with no discount for taking a block of rooms, hotels don't want his business.

As she said, the days of "greatly reduced rates/free this/free that" are over.

Hotels are like any other business; they exist to make money, not give extreme discounts.

Exactly, excellent points, George. We left Valley Forge for those reasons. We weren't the kind of customer that they wanted anymore, even before the casino moved in. They divided the spaces we used to use, and they could book four parties or even more over the same two days, and make more money. I don't begrudge them that; I understand, as you do, that they're a business. We just couldn't afford it there. Right now, we have a good relationship with the current venue, and they are accommodating towards us.

Prost!
Brad
 
Exactly, excellent points, George. We left Valley Forge for those reasons. We weren't the kind of customer that they wanted anymore, even before the casino moved in. They divided the spaces we used to use, and they could book four parties or even more over the same two days, and make more money. I don't begrudge them that; I understand, as you do, that they're a business. We just couldn't afford it there. Right now, we have a good relationship with the current venue, and they are accommodating towards us.

Prost!
Brad

You weren't the kind of customer they wanted post cassino; they are looking more for degenerate gamblers to fill the place.

I called about half dozen hotels in Gettysburg to get a room for the show, AVERAGE room rate was about 160.00 plus tax, the days of cheap hotel rooms are long, long gone.................as luck would have it, I found a Wyndham property, the agent looked up my phone number, come to find out I had enough points sitting there to get a free room, so that saved me 170.00 or so dollars right there.

Post COVID, I was really looking forward to going back to shows; out of control hotel, gas and dining costs may kill it for me........Gettysburg is going to cost me about 400.00 in gas, MFCA not so bad, probably around 300.00..................................Chicago?

At the current gas prices, it would cost me 1,000.00 in gas out and back.

ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

Sorry, that's a total and utter non starter for me.

Unless gas prices come down by September (insert your laugh track here), I'm out.
 
just called the Menger...

$139.00 discounted room rate $169.00...
$18.00 valet/parking discounted from $35...

no other perks...

Mike,
Thanks for the info. When I made my reservations they told me their was no special rates. I just called and got the rate that you show so I booked an extra night.

Thanks again
Howard
 
Mike,
Thanks for the info. When I made my reservations they told me their was no special rates. I just called and got the rate that you show so I booked an extra night.

Thanks again
Howard

Howard...good man...you owe me a beer!...^&grin

don't forget...you're supposed to get discounted valet too if you're bringing a vehicle...
 
Howard...good man...you owe me a beer!...^&grin

don't forget...you're supposed to get discounted valet too if you're bringing a vehicle...

Mike,
The beer is on me , to all other Treefroggers make sure you ask for the event group rate and if they don’t give it ask to speak to someone else. It is a super deal on a hotel in downtown San Antonio.

Howard
 

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