Interest in non-battle poses? (1 Viewer)

[Fusilier]

Guys-
While staring at my First Legion figures for the thousandth time earlier, I got to thinking about non-battle poses. So far, outside of the command sets, all of First Legion's Napoleonic releases have been either marching or fighting. And while I am a total First Legion fan boy as it is, I do think it would be neat to have a release of non-battle, non-marching figures.

So, would anyone else have any interest in a group of figures that depict a unit in camp? Think of a couple guys sitting around a fire eating/drinking, a couple more maintaining weapons or polishing uniform buttons, and others playing cards or smoking. Perhaps another filling canteens, some unloading supplies off a wagon, or one being dressed down by an NCO....

I realize these types of figures probably wouldn't have the same sale potential as a firing line or marching column might. Still, seems like a good idea on the surface. Any thoughts?

Noah

 

[Aleš]

Guys-
While staring at my First Legion figures for the thousandth time earlier, I got to thinking about non-battle poses. So far, outside of the command sets, all of First Legion's Napoleonic releases have been either marching or fighting. And while I am a total First Legion fan boy as it is, I do think it would be neat to have a release of non-battle, non-marching figures.

So, would anyone else have any interest in a group of figures that depict a unit in camp? Think of a couple guys sitting around a fire eating/drinking, a couple more maintaining weapons or polishing uniform buttons, and others playing cards or smoking. Perhaps another filling canteens, some unloading supplies off a wagon, or one being dressed down by an NCO....

I realize these types of figures probably wouldn't have the same sale potential as a firing line or marching column might. Still, seems like a good idea on the surface. Any thoughts?

Noah

maybe they will made limited edition for those who wish to have them.
Well i will like to see an Headquarters(napoleon talk with his marshals,generals,...looking at the map,...)

 

[kx1a]

Im not a collector of Napoleonics myself. My focus is on WW II but would like to see some non-battle poses in the way of the civilian population of the war zones that can be used in dioramas.

Bill W

 

[Spitfrnd]

I think one tricky thing is which ones? There are already two English units, six French, two Russian, one Prussian, one Wurtenberg, one Nassau and others on the way. So which Units do you make the figures for? I suppose you could stick the the big four, French, Russian, English and Prussian and try and make the poses generic but that is not FL style. Frankly I would look to see some dynamic women figures, like officers wifes, camp followers, Spanish Guirillas etc but Matt was rather uninterested when we brought that up before. Depending on the poses I certainly would buy some French and English and definitely would buy some appropriate women figures.

 

[Fusilier]

I think one tricky thing is which ones?

Good question. I hadn't really thought that far ahead. Just was throwing the idea out there to see if people were interested in the basic idea.

Frankly I would look to see some dynamic women figures, like officers wifes, camp followers, Spanish Guirillas etc...

Those sound like excellent suggestions. I could find a use for all of those.

Noah

 

[fmethorst]

I definitely like non combat figures.

Here are some beauties from Missing Lynx

Tiger 1 mine damage

Tiger II bridge collapse

 

[mikemiller1955]

That is a gorgeous display...such detail...very nice!!!!!

 

[King's Man]

I would not be interested in figures representing people in off duty poses, i.e. camp scenes (cooking, playing cards, or etc.). I would be interesting in troops at rest or in a standing pose. Much of the time in battle is spent waiting.

My opinions should only be applied to the Napoleonic line.

King's Man

 

[Gebhard]

I'm having a hard enough time keeping up with the combat poses being released. Maybe down the road I would be interested .....when every one of the possible Battles , Vehicles , and fighting poses has been exhausted ( a long ..long time from know ) . But I would never be interested in female non combat poses such as Wellingtons wife etc..sorry Mate

 

[FirstLegion]

Maybe down the road I would be interested .....when every one of the possible Battles , Vehicles , and fighting poses has been exhausted ( a long ..long time from know ) . But I would never be interested in female non combat poses such as Wellingtons wife etc..sorry Mate

I think your post pretty well sums up my thoughts exactly. You won't see an Empress Josephine Boudouir set with chambermaids and french poodle from First Legion. Nothing wrong with this type of stuff, mind you, its just not our thing. We will do some multi-figure vignette type releases at some point, but they will be vignettes that will compliment battles.

 

[Gebhard]

I think your post pretty well sums up my thoughts exactly. You won't see an Empress Josephine Boudouir set with chambermaids and french poodle from First Legion. Nothing wrong with this type of stuff, mind you, its just not our thing. We will do some multi-figure vignette type releases at some point, but they will be vignettes that will compliment battles.

Thanks Matt,
the multi-figure vignettes sound GREAT there are several famous excerpts from Battles that would go Great as a subset. Your statement made in response to my post is just another reason First Legion is my Favorite manufacture I think I know what to expect from you guys and I like it

 

[nasirkasmani]

being a WW2 armour fan, i like non combat dios as it gives me reason to display the crew out of the tanks. i especially like dios where the soldiers and vehicles appeared to be moving to the front (or retreating).

 

[FirstLegion]

Non combat poses for WWII are a bit different than Napoleonic as with WWII each figure is an individual and aren't meant to fight in formation. This allows for a lot more flexibility with each individual figure. So my comments before were more directed at our Napoleonic range. For WWII, we'll definitely do non-fighting figures, but again, they will be done within the context of our Stalingrad range.

Frank, those dioramas are just beyond breathtaking. Simply amazing work. Now these are the type of "non-combat" figures I'd do - figures not fighting, but still within the context of our range and that fit in well with everything else.

 

[wayne556517]

Frank those dio pics are brilliant that is something i would love to do,lets hope someone does something.

 

[Spitfrnd]

Non combat poses for WWII are a bit different than Napoleonic as with WWII each figure is an individual and aren't meant to fight in formation. This allows for a lot more flexibility with each individual figure. So my comments before were more directed at our Napoleonic range. For WWII, we'll definitely do non-fighting figures, but again, they will be done within the context of our Stalingrad range.

Frank, those dioramas are just beyond breathtaking. Simply amazing work. Now these are the type of "non-combat" figures I'd do - figures not fighting, but still within the context of our range and that fit in well with everything else.

I thought I would comment on this since it evokes in my mind two popular notions of Napoleonic combat that are somewhat exaggerated. While it is true that formation combat was much more a feature of the period, the uniformity was considerably more evident in approaching combat than in the combat itself. Thus the individuals on each side may have started the battles in pretty good order but once the artillery, light infantry sniping and defensive volleys had started to do their work, most formations and the conduct within them became much less uniform. We already have some great diversity in poses in the French line, British Guard and French Chasseurs but we honestly could use even more. Then of course, there was the light infantry for both sides and the bayonet attacks, broken formations, routs, foraging and scouting. While the various Generals and Marshals may have liked to think of their troops as perfect models of their drills, the reality of the combats provoked much greater typical human diversity.

Second, Napoleonic roles for women were much more exciting than having chamber maids and poodles. Many soldiers wifes, even those of officers, were at or near the battles and tended to wounded as well as often facing the dangers of the fighting. And then of course there were the spies, Spanish guerrillas and French mistresses (often in uniform). For example, there is much to be read about the women in harms way for both Waterloo and the Russian and Spanish campaigns. Ignoring them to me is ignoring a part of the history that all this is supposed to represent.

 

[King's Man]

While women may have played an important part in the campaigns of Napoleon; I would prefer that FL not use it efforts on making figures of them.

King's Man

 

[Gebhard]

While women may have played an important part in the campaigns of Napoleon; I would prefer that FL not use it efforts on making figures of them.

King's Man

What he said.......

 

[Spitfrnd]

While women may have played an important part in the campaigns of Napoleon; I would prefer that FL not use it efforts on making figures of them.

King's Man

Well lads each to his own; I could say the say about drummers but I must admit I got a kick out of the French ones. I will say if they did any, it would a pleasant sight for the eyes.

 

[VIRIATO]

To me women can be beautiful in a way no man can be, and they definitely had at least a non-battle role. So I think it would be a nice challenge for any manufacturer to make some cantinieres or camp followers, it would be realistic and maybe one of them might be a beauty.


Paulo

 

[Spitfrnd]

To me women can be beautiful in a way no man can be, and they definitely had at least a non-battle role. So I think it would be a nice challenge for any manufacturer to make some cantinieres or camp followers, it would be realistic and maybe one of them might be a beauty.


Paulo

Well said mate; besides otherwise what is Sharpe going to do with his free time?