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Simpson & his donkey.

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Can the the old guys of the forum let me no why somethings can be said and others can't.I have had a few threads taken off over the short time I have been on this site.Others have been band.I have not sworn at anyone just put across a few points of view.I have found if you knock anything at all about K&C products you stand the chance of being jailed for a week.I have read the rules and feel they are not broken but it says they can pull anything they find that displeases them.Sometimes I wonder weather I should bother with any of this at all.What should I do.:confused:
 
Hi Guys,

In answer to Simpson’s plea I would say this Forum is very definitely FREE. If, as our friend seems to imply, criticizing K&C gets you banned then this little forum of ours would be a very lonely place indeed.

K&C gets more than a few occasional brickbats as well as bouquets on a reasonably regular basis. So, whatever gets his posts pulled I don’t think it’s him giving K&C or me any grief and then suffering the inevitable consequences.

As to what he should do well, that’s a tough one that only he can answer.

Best wishes and… happy collecting!

Andy C.
 
Thats right,apart from talking politics you would have to really insult a member of the forum to get banned i imagine.I've always felt that people are free to criticise who they want much as they are free to buy or not buy any product they like.I also don't think people are as 'Rabid'(!)as is often thought.I am a massive fan of K&C,but if someone comes on here and says 'i don't like this or i don't like that' i'm not going to get upset about it!.Its a free world (thanks to previous generations)and we are talking toy soldiers here,not life and death so each to their own.

But on the other hand if Andy doesn't make a Sherman Firefly by next weekend i'm going to kill myself!!!!!!:eek::eek::D:D

Rob
 
Hi Guys,

In answer to Simpson’s plea I would say this Forum is very definitely FREE. If, as our friend seems to imply, criticizing K&C gets you banned then this little forum of ours would be a very lonely place indeed.

K&C gets more than a few occasional brickbats as well as bouquets on a reasonably regular basis. So, whatever gets his posts pulled I don’t think it’s him giving K&C or me any grief and then suffering the inevitable consequences.

As to what he should do well, that’s a tough one that only he can answer.

Best wishes and… happy collecting!

Andy C.
Once again Andy you talk wisdom.It is up to me what I will do .Will I continued to buy K&C products only I will no this.Will I keep reading threads once again its up to me.Will my future threads be pulled if I continued well thats a 50/50 question.You have a big pull on this forum as you should and you can call alot of shoots.I have seen you shoot people down in flames rightly or wrongly on this forum.Mostly rightly standing up for yourself but as soon as one not so high up as you stands up or has another opion against K&C all hell brakes loose.You must feel great as you have so many people stand up for your products.Loyalty is something earn'd not bought and you have alot of loyal people.You have done this so you do call most of the shots on this forum.So Let all collectors of K&C good and bad comments let them be heard.If people don't like them don't answer them.
 
The only way posts can be pulled is if you breach the rules that you (as well as all of us) agreed to abide by when you joined. This includes insulting members. I believe Shannon has made these points clear on more than one occasion. We don't like politics because of the passions that it can incite. If we've had to close threads because of people arguing over the Napoleonic wars, imagine people discussing current affairs.

Other than that, evrything is fair game. If you want to criticize King and Country or any other manufacturer, go right ahead.
 
Thats right,apart from talking politics you would have to really insult a member of the forum to get banned i imagine.I've always felt that people are free to criticise who they want much as they are free to buy or not buy any product they like.I also don't think people are as 'Rabid'(!)as is often thought.I am a massive fan of K&C,but if someone comes on here and says 'i don't like this or i don't like that' i'm not going to get upset about it!.Its a free world (thanks to previous generations)and we are talking toy soldiers here,not life and death so each to their own.

But on the other hand if Andy doesn't make a Sherman Firefly by next weekend i'm going to kill myself!!!!!!:eek::eek::D:D

Rob

"you would have to really insult a member of the forum to get banned"

Please excuse me for hijacking one of your quotes Rob.
I find it interesting that in my "Monthly Poll" thread that was pulled, although I never mentioned any names, it was automatically assumed by certain members of our happy little family that I was refering to a certain gentleman who regularly posts here on the K&C section of this forum. In fact, I wasn't refering to anyone in particular, but I find it a matter of concern that although the said gentleman certainly does no harm - and I happen to concur with some of the contents of some of his posts, he is regularly shot down by the moderators - and yet the more ludicrous posts are not pulled. I'm still waiting, weeks after the event to see the photos of the FOB vickers gun and gunner fitting "perfectly" inside the bren gun carrier - yawn. I would suggest that this absurd claim in particular was no more than a figment of a fevered imagination. Or maybe it was a joke - certainly it sounds like one.
If I, or most others were to seriously make a claim like that, then I'd be laughed out of court.
The defense rests its case, M'Lud.

H
 
No probs H.:)

Maybe your poll was pulled because (excuse me if i'm wrong here)wasn't it entitled 'P**** of the Month!'.Maybe some thought that offensive?.

Rob
 
I have found if you knock anything at all about K&C products you stand the chance of being jailed for a week.:confused:
Not. Criticizing a manufacturer's product most certainly will not get you banned or "jailed for a week."

Sometimes it's all in how you say it. Here is an example of a post that does not follow the guidelines:

"The latest offering from XYZ Company is the biggest piece of blankety blank garbage I have ever seen and the owner of the company is a complete idiot to think any of us true collectors would be stupid enough to spend our hard-earned money on it. Whoever sculpted it should go back to art school and it was obviously painted by a drunken monkey.
Anyone who is dumb enough to buy this piece doesn't know his blankety blank blank blank from his elbow and shouldn't be able to call themselves a collector. The company is crooked to try to sell it at that price, the owner of the company's wife must be ugly if this piece is any indication of their lousy taste. Hey XYZ, get a clue and produce something worth our time and money!:mad::mad::mad:"

Here is an example of saying the same thing without insulting the company, any fellow collector who happens to like or have bought the product, the painter, the sculptor and the owner and their spouse:

"I have just seen the latest offering from XYZ Company and I have to say I'm disappointed. I don't think the sculpt is as crisp as their usual offerings. The flesh tones seemed a bit on the green side and I would have preferred that the dog have been painted brown instead of purple with pink polka dots. In my opinion this new product isn't up to XYZ's standards and I personally would not recommend it."

Sometimes an inoffensive post will get deleted because it follows an offensive one that has been removed and the posts that follow no longer make sense without the context of the removed one.

In the two and half years that this forum has been offered there have been a total of 3 temporary bans and in every case it was because someone got angry and offended with another board member and had a complete meltdown, took the gloves off and jumped into the rubber room to have a knock-down drag out fight taking everyone else with them as spectators. If this sort of thing was allowed to go on and we quit caring how people treated each other a lot of people would just leave or quit posting for fear they might be the next to be jumped. I and the mods will continue to keep this a place where all members can feel welcome and comfortable.
And as far as the forum being "free" all members and guests are "free" to be a part of the toy soldier community here on the forum and "free" to post their thoughts and opinions in a respectful way. The forum is "free" to all members and guests but not "free" to Treefrog Treasures. The forum has gotten so big it now costs thousands of dollars a year plus the cost of the forum software to have it hosted on a dedicated server. We at Treefrog feel this forum is an extremely valuable asset to the collecting community and is our way to personally promote the hobby and we are willing to spend the money, maintain the board and keep it a friendly place for you all. We just ask that all who join and participate keep the guidelines of respect they agreed to abide by in mind when posting and interacting with others.
I think that's a pretty fair price to pay.
Best regards,
 
No probs H.:)

Maybe your poll was pulled because (excuse me if i'm wrong here)wasn't it entitled 'P**** of the Month!'.Maybe some thought that offensive?.

Rob

Could well be Rob, and I can appreciate that some gentle souls would have been offended. I say it the way I see it of course. Besides it was a Freudian slip, I meant to entitle it "Funniest Fellow of the Month".
Cheers
H
 
Could well be Rob, and I can appreciate that some gentle souls would have been offended. I say it the way I see it of course. Besides it was a Freudian slip, I meant to entitle it "Funniest Fellow of the Month".
Cheers
H

:D Fruedian slip,right;).Good to have you back H.

Rob
 
Well said SR - along with rights, comes responsibilities. In this case, the responsibility to air whatever views you may have in a way that the majority of people will find acceptable and respectful - :p:)
 
Could well be Rob, and I can appreciate that some gentle souls would have been offended. I say it the way I see it of course. Besides it was a Freudian slip, I meant to entitle it "Funniest Fellow of the Month".
Cheers
H

I always miss all the good fights! It's always been deleted by the time I arrive.
Spoilsports! :)
 
I always miss all the good fights! It's always been deleted by the time I arrive.
Spoilsports! :)

Eazy,

That's just plain blankety blank, blank blank. If you blankety blanked drunken purple polka dotted monkey blank, then you'd blankety blank well blanked. And another thing, the blankety blank pink ugly dog blank, is just completely blank.

Awaiting sentence.

Blank
 
Eazy,

That's just plain blankety blank, blank blank. If you blankety blanked drunken purple polka dotted monkey blank, then you'd blankety blank well blanked. And another thing, the blankety blank pink ugly dog blank, is just completely blank.

Awaiting sentence.

Blank

Simon...could you not just arrest yourself?

:D:D

Jeff
 
I always miss all the good fights! It's always been deleted by the time I arrive.
Spoilsports! :)

How frustrating for you Eazy.
Hmmm....I know. Instead of deleting the offending posts right away, why don't these be sent to a "sin-bin" for a certain fixed length of time. Where, for payment of a small fee, variable depending on the severity of the infraction, the said offending posts can then be accessed by those who've missed them - and the funds raised can go towards maintaining this site. After the fixed time period has elapsed, the offending posts can then be sent to the "Great Offending Posts Graveyard Somewhere In Cyberspace".
Good Idea, huh?? :D:D:rolleyes::rolleyes:;)
Cheers
H
 
Consider it done. I'm now going to accidently trip down a flight of stairs for an element of authenticity, before protesting my innocence and getting off on a technicality. :D
 
I think false troll posts designed to cause forum disharmony should be deleted.

Damian, I assume you were KIDDING right??? Tongue in cheek and all that? Please let Oz and everyone else know so we don't have more strife and miscommunication for naught.

At least you got it right that the US is a republic and not a democracy. I won a small scholarship way back when for college for writing the winning essay on "Why the United States Is a Republic And Not a Democracy". I'm sure it was a stellar composition but more likely I was the only one who submitted one.:D
 
Quite frankly, I do find the censorship on this forum rather annoying at times. This perspective may not be well received, but it is my honest opinion.

I call it censorship because that is essetially what it is. Label them rules, good etiquette, peace and harmony for mutual respect, whatever, its still, at the end of the day, limits what one can say. Some subjectivitiy is involved as well. That is clearly censoring.

Now admittedly, it is TreeFrog's forum, and therefore they have the right to run the forum as they see fit. I happen to think its a bit much at times, and hopefully Im entitled to that opinion? To me it does make it feel a bit like Big Brother is watching, and that takes some of the fun out of it.

Of course, those of us who really dont like the restrictions are free to spend our time elsewhere. That is a great thing about the internet. Moreover, if we are REALLY unhappy, it would not be unprecedented to start a competing site. Note: Im not volunteering, just pointing it out.

Indeed, perhaps this post will be a good test? :)
 

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