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JJDESIGNS MAY 11[SUP]th[/SUP] 2020 NEWS UPDATE
THE ANCIENTS COLLECTION
THE CARTHAGINIANS AND THEIR ALLIES

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The military of Carthage was one of the largest military forces in the ancient world. Although the navy was always Carthage’s main force, the army acquired a key role in the spread of Carthaginian power.
With its Phoenician origins, Carthage already had a long history as a seafaring people. This was helped in that the navy was a permanently manned force, whilst the army would be enlisted only for a particular campaign and then demobilized.
Therefore it was easier to understand how the Carthaginian army was a Combined arms force, which comprised light and heavy infantry, skirmishers, light and heavy cavalry, as well as elephants.
The supreme command of the military was initially held by the civilian “Suffetes” until the third century. Thereafter, professional military generals were appointed directly by the Carthaginian Senate.
Whilst the navy was mainly manned by citizens, the army was composed almost exclusively of foreign mercenary units, particularly Libyans, Numidians, Iberians, Gauls and Greeks.
Only when the city of Carthage itself was threatened would citizens be conscripted into infantry service.


LIBYAN – PHOENICIAN INFANTRY
The backbone of any Carthaginian army and their most reliable troops were the Liby-Phoenician spearmen. The Libyans were not merely mercenaries but could be provided by allied city states or might have been conscripted from a peasant base.

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Before Hannibal’s Italian campaign they were presumably armed with long spears, round or oval shields and wore bronze helmets, and wore a linen cuirasses as protective armour.


CARTHAGINIAN VETERAN INFANTRY

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Polybios reports that at the battle of Cannae in 216BC, “the armour of the Libyans was Roman, for Hannibal had armed them with a selection of the spoils taken in previous battles.”
This would suggest that the look of the Libyan-Phoenician spearmen took on a more Roman appearance, with their armour changed from the Greek influenced linen cuirasses to chain mail.

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It would also be possible to imagine many of these veteran infantry were armed with the Roman scutum.


THE NUMIDIANS
The Numidians were the Berber population of Numidia (present day Algeria and in a smaller part of Tunisia). The Numidians were one of the earliest Berber tribes to trade with the settlers of Carthage, and as Carthage grew , the relationship with the Numidians blossomed. Carthage’s military used the Numidian cavalry as mercenaries. Numidia provided some of the highest quality cavalry of the second Punic war, and the Numidian cavalry played a key role in a number of battles, both early on in support of Hannibal and later in the war after switching allegiances, to the Roman Republic.

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Ancient authors, such as Polybius and Livy, tend to stress Carthage’s reliance on mercenary units, which is slightly misleading when applied to the Carthaginian army. While Carthage did employ mercenaries in the true sense of the word, Carthage’s usage of native African and Iberian recruits would not be true mercenaries as these peoples were subjects of Carthage.
Also Carthage’s army was composed of recruits from its allies fighting for Carthage in accordance with bilateral treatise. The Numidian Kingdoms are an example who provided extensive light cavalry due to the close relationship between the two states.
 
MID REPUBLICAN ROMANS
PUBLIUS CORNELIUS SCIPIO AFRICANUS

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Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus (236/5 – 183 BC) was a Roman general and later consul who is often regarded as one of the greatest military commanders and strategists of all time.
His main achievements were during the Second Punic War, and is best known for defeating Hannibal at the final battle of Zama in 202BC. This victory was one of the feats that earned him the agnomen “Africanus”.
His conquest of Carthaginian Iberia culminated in the Battle of Ilipa in 206BC against Hannibal’s brother Mago Barca.


PRINCIPES
The Roman army of the mid-Republic (also known as the manipular Roman army or the "Polybian army"), refers to the armed forces deployed by the mid-Roman Republic, from the end of the Samnite Wars (290 BC) to the end of the Social War (88 BC). The first phase of this army, in its manipular structure (290–ca. 130 BC), is described in detail in the Histories of the ancient Greek historian Polybius, writing before 146 BC.

The central feature of the mid-Republican army was the manipular organisation of its battle-line. Instead of a single, large mass (the phalanx) as in the Greek and Early Roman army, the Romans now drew up in three lines (triplex acies) consisting of small units (maniples) of 120 men, arrayed in chessboard fashion, giving much greater tactical strength and flexibility.

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The Principes (singular princeps) were originally men in the prime of their lives , who were also fairly wealthy, and could therefore afford decent equipment. These were the heavier infantry of the legion, and their usual position was the second battle line.
By the time of the Punic wars infantry were sorted into classes according to age and experience rather than wealth. The Principes then became the older veterans but their equipment and role remained the same.

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The velites would gather at the front , and cover the advance of the hastate. If the hastate failed to break the enemy, they would fall back on the Principes. If the principes could not break them then they would retire behind the Triarii.
This order of battle was almost always followed. It was Scipio Africanus at the Battle of The Great Plains, and the Battle of Zama, who modified this tactic.


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At the Great Plains, scipio the Roman General, formed his men up in the usual manner, but once the Hastati had begun to engage the enemy, he used his principes and triarii as a flanking force, routing the opposing Carthaginians.


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At Zama, Scipio arranged his men into columns, side by side, with large lanes in between. The opposing Carthaginian elephants were drawn into these lanes where many were killed by the Velites, without inflicting many casualties on the Romans. Once the surviving elephants had been routed, he formed his men into a long line with his Triarii and Principes in the centre and hastate on the flanks, ready to engage the Carthaginian infantry.



SOME THOUGHTS FROM JOHN

The Punic Wars has always been one of those “must do” projects. It includes two of the greatest generals in antiquity, and two armies that fought in completely different styles. The sheer variety and colour of all the various troop types was a major factor in drawing me into this period.
Its been a long journey, but I hope by the end of this year, I will have broken the back of most of the relevant troop types, which will leave me some time to maybe concentrate on a few elephants for 2021!

More command sets for the Triarii and Hastati should be previewed next month, and I hope that the figures will start to be available towards the end of the year.



Next week, New releases for June 2020 will be announced, so there will be no previews.
 
JJD's Punic War series has to be one of the most complete ranges of any Ancient period.
Collectors can display a variety of scenes from skirmishes and cavalry engagements to massive
battles. Perhaps some elephants will show up eventually in the not too distant future.
 
Really like the Carthaginian heavy infantry. The variety of shields, helmets and body armor will make a very colorful display.
Also very happy that John mentions war elephants. - To state the obvious, they would be great additions to the series.
 
Hopefully John will also create some more Roman Triarii in fighting positions. As said his Punic Wars figures are wonderfully done and make a Great addition to any ones collection.
 
Hopefully John will also create some more Roman Triarii in fighting positions. As said his Punic Wars figures are wonderfully done and make a Great addition to any ones collection.


I asked John about the fighting Triarii but not in his current plans, we'll keep asking though!
 
Another mounted Roman heading my way, be that it will be a very slow journey, mores the pity. Robin.
 
Look really good.When you look at all the ranges John has you have to wonder how he does it all.
Mark
 
Look really good.When you look at all the ranges John has you have to wonder how he does it all.
Mark

Seems like he really enjoys his work. He can be creative and make collectors happy and make a living all at the same time. As with Andy of K&C and so many other manufacturers, you can tell that their artwork is a labour of love.
I love all the different ranges and Historical periods JJ covers. WW2 is great fun to collect, but I always like to see some less well-covered eras. Variety is the spice of life! It also means one might never stop collecting because the number of ranges being made into artistic miniatures can be as big as History, but that's a good problem! Heck it's fun just to admire the releases even if you don't collect that time period or can't afford or display them all.
Keep up the good work JJD and all the other manufacturers. We will all get through these lean times and it would truly be a shame if anyone closed up for good.
Best wishes and stay safe
Paddy
 
And lets remember it's a two way street. Collectors need to support their favorite figure makers to help them make it thru these ''lean times''.
 
Hi Julie,

Thank you so much for posting these Monday updates! May I make a comment and ask a question about the Punic Wars series?

Comment - or more like a suggestion, please. I would really like to see the "Romanized" Carthaginian Veteran Infantry using the same Roman scuta as the the Mid-Republican Roman infantry, rather than the Late Caesarian Romans, since the early period Romans were the ones that would have "donated" their shields to the Punic cause.

Question - really excited to see the Numidian and Spanish Cavalry! Will John be doing Numidian infantry, and Spanish Scutarii and Caetrati, too?

Thanks!
 
Hi Julie,

Thank you so much for posting these Monday updates! May I make a comment and ask a question about the Punic Wars series?

Comment - or more like a suggestion, please. I would really like to see the "Romanized" Carthaginian Veteran Infantry using the same Roman scuta as the the Mid-Republican Roman infantry, rather than the Late Caesarian Romans, since the early period Romans were the ones that would have "donated" their shields to the Punic cause.

Question - really excited to see the Numidian and Spanish Cavalry! Will John be doing Numidian infantry, and Spanish Scutarii and Caetrati, too?

Thanks!
I think Julie would have to ask John and he might not be ready to reveal his future plans until they are better formed in his artistic mind.
One thing I do know is that JJD keeps building on it's popular ranges, like everyone else, so you can usually wait a while and still get Most of a range. If you want to be sure you have it all support the range by buying now so he knows he has a potential buyer for this range in the future. It has been popular so far but we need to keep it so. best wishes, stay safe
Paddy
 
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Hi Julie,

Thank you so much for posting these Monday updates! May I make a comment and ask a question about the Punic Wars series?

Comment - or more like a suggestion, please. I would really like to see the "Romanized" Carthaginian Veteran Infantry using the same Roman scuta as the the Mid-Republican Roman infantry, rather than the Late Caesarian Romans, since the early period Romans were the ones that would have "donated" their shields to the Punic cause.

Question - really excited to see the Numidian and Spanish Cavalry! Will John be doing Numidian infantry, and Spanish Scutarii and Caetrati, too?

Thanks!

Yes, I see what you're saying. - The Roman shields carried by the grey colored Carthaginian prototypes are the late Roman Republic version (an second embossed ridge around the edge of the shield) instead of the Mid Republic style - Hopefully that is corrected before these figures go into the production phase.

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Hi Julie,

Thank you so much for posting these Monday updates! May I make a comment and ask a question about the Punic Wars series?

Comment - or more like a suggestion, please. I would really like to see the "Romanized" Carthaginian Veteran Infantry using the same Roman scuta as the the Mid-Republican Roman infantry, rather than the Late Caesarian Romans, since the early period Romans were the ones that would have "donated" their shields to the Punic cause.

Question - really excited to see the Numidian and Spanish Cavalry! Will John be doing Numidian infantry, and Spanish Scutarii and Caetrati, too?

Thanks!

I have posed the comment and question! I will let you know once I hear back.

Julie
 
John is remarkably receptive to 'corrections' posed by his customer base. He has proved this many times by correcting mistakes that have been pointed out by collectors. I suspect that these previews of his gray masters are for the reason that mistakes might be caught and corrected. At any rate, there is every reason to believe that John will correct an error if it is pointed out in time. Another reason that JJD is the best. -- Al
 
Hi Julie,

Thank you so much for posting these Monday updates! May I make a comment and ask a question about the Punic Wars series?

Comment - or more like a suggestion, please. I would really like to see the "Romanized" Carthaginian Veteran Infantry using the same Roman scuta as the the Mid-Republican Roman infantry, rather than the Late Caesarian Romans, since the early period Romans were the ones that would have "donated" their shields to the Punic cause.

Question - really excited to see the Numidian and Spanish Cavalry! Will John be doing Numidian infantry, and Spanish Scutarii and Caetrati, too?

Thanks!


Good catch, you are right about the Roman Scuta. The Gauls did have similar "oval" shields/scuta and I have to research theirs at that time.
As I have said this is probably the most extensive range of Ancients for a particular period (Punic Wars) that I have ever seen. While I intend
to collect this entire series it is financially challenging. I don't think JJD has plans to go beyond what has been shown already but ultimately
it will depend on the popularity and sales of the series.
 
This range is just exploding! Fantastic!

Looks like the Carthage heavy infantry and the unpainted prototype figures with Roman shields are wearing the same body chain mail as the mid Republic Princeps Romans(not released yet).
 
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Many thanks for the comments and feedback, it is always welcome.
Well spotted with the shields, but please be assured the masters have the correct version, although I still have not produced the artwork for them yet!
It’s always good to check, and maybe its one of the benefits of showing previews. This time the shields were the only ones I had available in the workshop, as I threw together another preview!
The week goes by really too quickly, and it’s becoming a bit of a problem keeping up.

Also please be patient, as due to the current circumstances I am probably previewing more than I need to, and as some collectors have found out, it doesn’t necessarily mean that the items will be released in the near future.

Regarding the question, I do hope to eventually produce some Spanish heavy infantry (Scutarii) and some skirmishing light infantry (Caetrati) later, in 2021, as I quite like how the Spanish cavalry have come out in their white tunics with red trim. I will have more pictures of all the Spanish cavalry painted in a preview next month.
I’ve also recently been inspired by the illustrations from the Elite(Osprey) book on the Carthaginians, which show some Libyan light infantry , which were far more colourful than the Numidians. They wore red tunics, with red war paint over their bodies, which I think would look spectacular, so I will probably eventually go in this direction.

Once again many thanks for your comments and questions.

john jenkins
 
Many thanks for the comments and feedback, it is always welcome.
Well spotted with the shields, but please be assured the masters have the correct version, although I still have not produced the artwork for them yet!
It’s always good to check, and maybe its one of the benefits of showing previews. This time the shields were the only ones I had available in the workshop, as I threw together another preview!
The week goes by really too quickly, and it’s becoming a bit of a problem keeping up.

Also please be patient, as due to the current circumstances I am probably previewing more than I need to, and as some collectors have found out, it doesn’t necessarily mean that the items will be released in the near future.

Regarding the question, I do hope to eventually produce some Spanish heavy infantry (Scutarii) and some skirmishing light infantry (Caetrati) later, in 2021, as I quite like how the Spanish cavalry have come out in their white tunics with red trim. I will have more pictures of all the Spanish cavalry painted in a preview next month.
I’ve also recently been inspired by the illustrations from the Elite(Osprey) book on the Carthaginians, which show some Libyan light infantry , which were far more colourful than the Numidians. They wore red tunics, with red war paint over their bodies, which I think would look spectacular, so I will probably eventually go in this direction.

Once again many thanks for your comments and questions.

john jenkins

Hi John (and Julie),

Thanks for detailed response; more than I hoped for! No worries; plenty of patience here. . . can only afford to collect so fast ^&grin I'm probably not a typical collector in that I wargame with my collection, so having access to all the different troop types in an army is critical. Hence the questions. You've hit on all my favorite periods of military history: F&IW, Punic Wars, Norman Conquest and the Aztecs/Conquistadors. For the Punic Wars, I've collected Romans by several manufacturers in both 15mm and 28mm scales but was never satisfied with any of them completely, so never actually built the armies. Your Punic Wars Romans are a great combination of accurate equipment and dynamic fighting poses. . . and the expanding line of Romans and Punics, along with your plans to add the troops we're discussing is going to provide some great gaming! I never thought I would ever game this period at this scale. . . but here we are.

You can get an idea of my F&IW gaming from my blog. At some point Hannibal and Scipio will square off on it, too!

Thanks again,
Chris
cluckamok.blogspot.com
 

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