johnnybach's Scots Greys (1 Viewer)

[johnnybach]

Aaaaargh!!! Zoot _ Alors!!
That's the trouble with living in a forest and picking up the hobby on your own!! I simply didn't know that! Thanks for telling me - as I have another band (16th lancers), with a phantom French Hornist lurking in the rear! However - Nil Desperandum - as they say somewhere. I will sit in a darkened room and figure out some way of changing them to something more suitable. As you may have noted from my question over tenor drummers in Highland Bands - I like to get things as "correct" as I can. In fact, THAT particular question was the reason I joined the forum. I realised that going my own way in splendid isolation would, sooner or later, mean that I would make such a gaffe. Looks like it was "sooner"!

So, PLEASE, keep an eye on me - and make sure I don't do something daft again! Thanks Martin - and no, I certainly don't think you are being picky at all - your advice is much appreciated. Good job I know how this guy was put together - as it will make it easier to take him apart and replace the arms/instrument. Regards - johnnybach

 

[johnnybach]

Question for Martin

I have emerged from dark-room - after accessing "Household Cav - Massed & Regtl Band Formations" on the Internet - and learning a few things - at least about recent practices! They confirm that the French Horn used by foot bands from both organisations - is replaced by Tenor Horn in mounted mode.

Fine so far - as I don't have HC mounted band YET. (Waiting for Col & Anne at Asset to make one - to match my existing superb HC pieces from them). When and if they do - I will certainly be more able to get it right - as it's a superb article.

So, my question to Martin is - could I replace BOTH French Horns in my current Scots Greys and 16th Lancers bands (both c.1890's) with Tenor Horns - or would another Brass instrument be more appropriate? Hope you can fiind the time to help with advice Martin , regards - johnnybach.

PS - my french hornists have little black capes over them - at present!

 

[Martin Tabony]

I'm not an expert on musical instruments but luckily I had the foresight not to take the p--s out of the band too much so they will still answer my questions! Apparently the tenor horn is fine, over the years they have change the size of the bell but not enough to matter in 1/32nd. What do you mean by capes? The musician in foul weather cape, the musician wearing the apron or the leather cover on the instrument?

Martin

 

[johnnybach]

No - more like a shroud really - for those about to meet the surgeon!

I'm no expert on bands either - just a lover of the pageantry and colour they bring to soldiering. Seriously, thanks Martin, for pointing out the error. Interesting that out of 248 views to date for my band - only you seemed to know! Were you in HC then?
johnnybach

 

[trooper]

Household Cavalry band when mounted usually consists of the following:- Kettledrummer,6 trumpets, 4 bass, 2 euphoniums, 2 tenor horns, 4 trombones, 8 cornets, 4 saxophones, 5 clarinets and one piccolo. Plus the Director of Music of course.

 

[thebritfarmer]

This site might help also

http://www.householdcavalry.info/

 

[Martin Tabony]

Yes, The Life Guards. Some where if I can dig it out I've got the official band formations from the Army school of music in 1905. Until that date there was no set arangement and the D of M could pretty much do as he wanted, as this wasn't a problem until two regiments had to play together. The Guards bands had been performing on mass for years so they had sorted out the arrangements themselves.

Martin

 

[johnnybach]

Thanks to Martin, trooper and britfarmer for the advice on Household Cavalry. I shall file the information away until such time as my old chums at Asset bring the band into their existing range of mounted Household Cavalry - at which point I definitely WILL need it! As you know, I have only been a member of the forum for a short while - yet the benefits to a former "loner" like me have already been proved. Thanks to everyone involved. It is a marvellous resource - and the advice of its members are just gold-dust. So, thanks Shannon et al too - and have a cool Yule. johnnybach

 

[johnnybach]

I know its drifting off the subject a bit - but thought I would share an absolutely wonderful site I found on the Internet - IF anyone is contemplating making up a Household Cavalry Band: Features diagrams of Massed - Regimental - Mounted - Dismounted Bands of both Regiments, as well as some of the best pictures I have seen.

It might also prevent you from making a mistake - and putting in an instrument that shouldn't be there!!

www.householdcavalry.info/bandform.html

If you have seen them before - fine. If not - enjoy them as I did. johnnybach

 

[johnnybach]

Some asked for individual photos - These are the best I can do - more practice required.

The final photo includes two Rose 54mm models I painted also

 

[johnnybach]

Sorry about the rather "bitty" way I (eventually) managed to put the close-ups a few people wanted to see of my Scots Greys Band (so far!). I have retired the erroneous French Horn player - and my Sax is not quite ready to join in yet.

I am still trying hard to come to grips with photography, Downloading pictures to my computer - then uploading some to photobucket - then back to the forum?
Phew!
Its a lot to remember considering I only gave up the feather quill recently!!!

Anyhow - now you can see them a little better, I hope you are not TOO disappointed with my efforts. I did tell you that I was a glossy toy man - now didn't I. - johnnybach

 

[thebritfarmer]

Sorry about the rather "bitty" way I (eventually) managed to put the close-ups a few people wanted to see of my Scots Greys Band (so far!). I have retired the erroneous French Horn player - and my Sax is not quite ready to join in yet.

I am still trying hard to come to grips with photography, Downloading pictures to my computer - then uploading some to photobucket - then back to the forum?
Phew!
Its a lot to remember considering I only gave up the feather quill recently!!!

Anyhow - now you can see them a little better, I hope you are not TOO disappointed with my efforts. I did tell you that I was a glossy toy man - now didn't I. - johnnybach

You are doing a fine job, and thanks for sharing your photos with us. Practice makes perfect as they say and will improve I am sure with time.