K&C Goes Plastic!! (1 Viewer)

[Flyboy]

Well when one states that the world is a small place it just goes to show that you never know.

I have seen the first new K&C plastic soldiers while on vacation and when you hear the story you will be blown away.

Shall I tell or keep the secret until Andy comes out with it? Please rate in the attached poll!

I was involved with a fellow Comanche artisan in a display currently set up at the Briscoe Western Museum in San Antonio Texas. Where upstairs low and behold was a phenomenal custom K&C Alamo War display with literally thousands of figures including the new K&C plastics.

That is all I can tell you for now! Except they were beautiful!

Look forward to your votes and responses,

Mike

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Well when one states that the world is a small place it just goes to show that you never know.

I have seen the first new K&C plastic soldiers while on vacation and when you hear the story you will be blown away.

Shall I tell or keep the secret until Andy comes out with it? Please rate in the attached poll!

I was involved with a fellow Comanche artisan in a display currently set up at the Briscoe Western Museum in San Antonio Texas. Where upstairs low and behold was a phenomenal custom K&C Alamo War display with literally thousands of figures including the new K&C plastics.

That is all I can tell you for now! Except they were beautiful!

Look forward to your votes and responses,

Mike

It's hardly a secret. It's been discussed for months. It's been discussed in two threads since the beginning of August. No need to take a poll to get permission. But if you gave your word to keep things confidential ...^&cool

Terry

 

[Go for Broke]

Awhile ago, I saw plastic K&C WWII Marines and Sherman tank somewhere (magazine, website?), made by someone else.

 

[larso]

I'm very keen to see what happens here. It'd be a dream come true if K&C would start to issue some of their ranges in plastic! To me it would have a similar impact to the advent of Conte. Kids could be introduced to the hobby by dads and uncles just like in the old days!

 

[jazzeum]

Even if it hadn't already been disclosed, by the title of your thread and the poll choices, you'd pretty much done that and blown any confidentiality restrictions to which you may have been bound :rolleyes2:

 

[Guy]

In my opinion, for European collectors, I am afraid, plastic has no value, metal has !!!!!!
guy:smile2:

 

[RISORGIMENTO]

it seems that these resin figures have a different name than K & C, so why talk about a 'different' manufacturer here?

 

[Rob]

If it wasn't before I believe this thread just became obsolete, see Andy's post.

Rob

 

[Mitch]

I love this forum!!!!!!!
Mitch

 

[Poppo]

For me no need to go plastic to keep the prices low...Here you can see great Del Prado for 15, 18 euros!!!!!!...Some mixed with KC...Is there a so big difference of quality considered the huge price gap? {sm0}^&grin

 

[Flyboy]

Interesting replies of all kinds. Some people are way to serious about this and obviously do not have a day job. For myself I am not big for the plastic thing no matter how well painted or at ten bucks a piece etc. whatever. To me the metal soldier is what separates the men from the boys. However, that is just the point for their audience. I like the responses stating they will bring a young audience in to the market that will become collectors of the real thing later. I do not think it will take the market by storm as it did not for Conte or Britain deetail either. So good luck to these little jewels but I have a hard enough time keeping my metal soldiers from falling down! Mike

 

[The Military Workshop]

Interesting replies of all kinds. Some people are way to serious about this and obviously do not have a day job. For myself I am not big for the plastic thing no matter how well painted or at ten bucks a piece etc. whatever. To me the metal soldier is what separates the men from the boys. However, that is just the point for their audience. I like the responses stating they will bring a young audience in to the market that will become collectors of the real thing later. I do not think it will take the market by storm as it did not for Conte or Britain deetail either. So good luck to these little jewels but I have a hard enough time keeping my metal soldiers from falling down! Mike

Mike,
Your post reminds me of a K&C T shirt I bought in the 90's. Had a nice Omdurman charge type image (some may have seen image on some brown shopping bags K&C did) on the front and it had the words :

"The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys" Oscar Wilde

Might have to see if I can find the T shirt and frame it for the shop. Might come in useful if somebody complains
about pricing !!!

Regards
Brett

 

[Jack]

Mike,
Your post reminds me of a K&C T shirt I bought in the 90's. Had a nice Omdurman charge type image (some may have seen image on some brown shopping bags K&C did) on the front and it had the words :

"The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys" Oscar Wilde

Might have to see if I can find the T shirt and frame it for the shop. Might come in useful if somebody complains
about pricing !!!

Regards
Brett

Does it still fit?

 

[TomNT]

Does it still fit?

If it doesn't and the shopkeeper offered it to you, would you wear it instead of the velvet jacket? :wink2:

Tom

 

[Mirof]

Interesting replies of all kinds. Some people are way to serious about this and obviously do not have a day job. For myself I am not big for the plastic thing no matter how well painted or at ten bucks a piece etc. whatever. To me the metal soldier is what separates the men from the boys. However, that is just the point for their audience. I like the responses stating they will bring a young audience in to the market that will become collectors of the real thing later. I do not think it will take the market by storm as it did not for Conte or Britain deetail either. So good luck to these little jewels but I have a hard enough time keeping my metal soldiers from falling down! Mike

Hello Dear Friend

Please remember.. Once Upon a Time ... metal soldiers were also for kids
Then, most of the manufacturers choose plastic to keep the price as low as possible and the painting quality ddn't improve .
The new ranges of "Toy soldiers" metal, now on the market tries to reproduce, in facts, the painting of peoples who paints kit figures, with shadows and highlights ; it's a recent trend . For kit builders, there is since some years ( introduced first by F. Verlinden in Belgium ) resin kits . It was at that time a revolution, without future, said the collectors used to the weight of metal .
Today in High Level competitions, world wide, the resin figures take 50% of the market . You achieve far better detail with resin .
So, just let see first the " plastic"; will it be plastic ? Soft or rigid ? Or resin ?
And by the way a painted resin reach the same price, it's the painting that make the real difference .
Now I admit that for collectors of gloss painted metal, there is only that,because it has not evolved since 100 years . Same basic sculpt and painting .
And... sometime, it's reversed : Starlux produced composite then plastic only . But an editor ( Altaya like ) produced them with the original moulds in China, and it was metal glossy painted .

 

[The Military Workshop]

Does it still fit?

Neither of us !!!!

 

[Flyboy]

Mike,
Your post reminds me of a K&C T shirt I bought in the 90's. Had a nice Omdurman charge type image (some may have seen image on some brown shopping bags K&C did) on the front and it had the words :

"The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys" Oscar Wilde

Might have to see if I can find the T shirt and frame it for the shop. Might come in useful if somebody complains
about pricing !!!

Regards
Brett

I have actually spent some time reviewing a great many pages of this section. Yours are shop talk as a dealer.
So send me the T-Shirt, I am always up for a new wardrobe and I have lost 50 lbs this year so it should be no problem! Mike

 

[Flyboy]

Hello Dear Friend

Please remember.. Once Upon a Time ... metal soldiers were also for kids
Then, most of the manufacturers choose plastic to keep the price as low as possible and the painting quality ddn't improve .
The new ranges of "Toy soldiers" metal, now on the market tries to reproduce, in facts, the painting of peoples who paints kit figures, with shadows and highlights ; it's a recent trend . For kit builders, there is since some years ( introduced first by F. Verlinden in Belgium ) resin kits . It was at that time a revolution, without future, said the collectors used to the weight of metal .
Today in High Level competitions, world wide, the resin figures take 50% of the market . You achieve far better detail with resin .
So, just let see first the " plastic"; will it be plastic ? Soft or rigid ? Or resin ?
And by the way a painted resin reach the same price, it's the painting that make the real difference .
Now I admit that for collectors of gloss painted metal, there is only that,because it has not evolved since 100 years . Same basic sculpt and painting .
And... sometime, it's reversed : Starlux produced composite then plastic only . But an editor ( Altaya like ) produced them with the original moulds in China, and it was metal glossy painted .

I like your post! But I do not think that plastic will be graced by good painting. The material holds no merit. For kids and large contingents. Small part of the market, Mike
I have learned much reading this forum and internet searches.