Long Barrel Panzer III v. Short Barrel Panzer III (AK19 and AK50) (1 Viewer)

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Yesterday I received a King and Country Panzer III (short barrel) AK50 as a part of my regular fix from my dealer. :cool: The term “dealer” is a most appropriate use of the word for this hobby of ours. :rolleyes: The AK50 is a real improvement for K&C DAK AFV’s, although it does not quite have the same quality standards as the newer Figarti AFV’s I still like it very much.:)

The second thing I did with the model, after inspecting it to ensure it was not broken or that pieces were missing, was to put it with the earlier K&C Panzer III (long barrel) AK19 released in 2002 for a side-by-side comparison. On first observation the first thought that entered my mind was that they look good together and that they make a good hunting pair, but after a little bit more time observing them together I could tell that there were quality and size differences.:confused:

When compared to the AK19, the AK50 detailing is sharper and more defined. The lines are crisper and it is obvious that the sculptor has spent more time and effort with the AK50. Lessons were learnt over the past 7 years. Both are painted in the same desert sand yellow color and will blend together color wise very well. The track system on the AK50 is definitely more defined and proves that much more time was spent working to ensure that it is much more three-dimensional than the AK19’s track system.

The AK50's (short barrel) hull is ½ inch longer and ¼ inch wider than the AK19. The two hulls are equal in height. While these are not large disparities in size, they are noticeable upon close inspection. The long barrel length is only ¾ of an inch longer than the short barrel making it less than obvious that there is supposed to be a size difference between the long and the short barrels. The turrets are the same size but the side hatches are larger on the AK50.

The figure that accompanies the AK50 is well done but is somewhat smaller in stature (smaller shoulders, head and body) than the figures on the AK19. Now don’t take this observation as negative. The AK50 figure is smaller, but not all soldiers are the same size. They, the AK19 and AK50 figures, work together for me.:)

As far as pictures are concern, someone else will have to provide them. My photographic skills leave much to be desired. Whenever I try to capture close in pictures to show detailing, all I can seem to photograph is blurred images. As that great sage Dirty Harry (Clint Eastwood) said, “A man has to know his limitations.” ;)

In conclusion, despite the difference between K&C and Figarti, I would still purchase the AK50 if I had to do it over again. I do like this model.:):):):)
 
Thanks for the review of the new PZ.IV. I appreciate your difference between the two models. I have been debating on ordering the latest model. John
 
Yesterday I received a King and Country Panzer III (short barrel) AK50 as a part of my regular fix from my dealer. :cool: The term “dealer” is a most appropriate use of the word for this hobby of ours. :rolleyes: The AK50 is a real improvement for K&C DAK AFV’s, although it does not quite have the same quality standards as the newer Figarti AFV’s I still like it very much.:)

The second thing I did with the model, after inspecting it to ensure it was not broken or that pieces were missing, was to put it with the earlier K&C Panzer III (long barrel) AK19 released in 2002 for a side-by-side comparison. On first observation the first thought that entered my mind was that they look good together and that they make a good hunting pair, but after a little bit more time observing them together I could tell that there were quality and size differences.:confused:

When compared to the AK19, the AK50 detailing is sharper and more defined. The lines are crisper and it is obvious that the sculptor has spent more time and effort with the AK50. Lessons were learnt over the past 7 years. Both are painted in the same desert sand yellow color and will blend together color wise very well. The track system on the AK50 is definitely more defined and proves that much more time was spent working to ensure that it is much more three-dimensional than the AK19’s track system.

The AK50's (short barrel) hull is ½ inch longer and ¼ inch wider than the AK19. The two hulls are equal in height. While these are not large disparities in size, they are noticeable upon close inspection. The long barrel length is only ¾ of an inch longer than the short barrel making it less than obvious that there is supposed to be a size difference between the long and the short barrels. The turrets are the same size but the side hatches are larger on the AK50.

The figure that accompanies the AK50 is well done but is somewhat smaller in stature (smaller shoulders, head and body) than the figures on the AK19. Now don’t take this observation as negative. The AK50 figure is smaller, but not all soldiers are the same size. They, the AK19 and AK50 figures, work together for me.:)

As far as pictures are concern, someone else will have to provide them. My photographic skills leave much to be desired. Whenever I try to capture close in pictures to show detailing, all I can seem to photograph is blurred images. As that great sage Dirty Harry (Clint Eastwood) said, “A man has to know his limitations.” ;)

In conclusion, despite the difference between K&C and Figarti, I would still purchase the AK50 if I had to do it over again. I do like this model.:):):):)

The AK019 probably appears to be 1/32 scale compared to AK050 which is wider and longer by the difference in scale between 1/32 and 1/30. AK019 looks like it has the 5cm KWK 39/L60 gun with a gun length of 118" There is some barrel overhang as there is supposed to be. AK050 appears to have the older 5cm KwK 38/L42 gun with a gun length of 83" and no barrel overhang. The gun on the AK019 should be noticeably longer than the gun on AK050. The real short barrel Panzer III which was the last Ausf had a 7.5cm KwK37/L24 with a barrel length of only 71"

Terry
 
No they are not. The turret bottom round male connectors to the top round female connector in the hulls are of different sizes between the models.
 
The AK019 probably appears to be 1/32 scale compared to AK050
Terry

No, the AKO19 is still 1/30ish, but is slightly distorted. The gun barrel is seriously distorted...to short for an L60, and too long for an L42. Funny thing is that it is one of my favorites:confused:
 
No, the AKO19 is still 1/30ish, but is slightly distorted. The gun barrel is seriously distorted...to short for an L60, and too long for an L42. Funny thing is that it is one of my favorites:confused:

I based the 1/32 vs 1/30 on the comment that the AK50's hull is ½ inch longer and ¼ inch wider than the AK19 which is about the difference between 1/32 and 1/30. I haven't received my AK50 yet to compare.

As for gun barrel lenth, you could be right but it is hart to tell how much of the barrel is inside the gun mantlet.

Terry
 
Whatever is said about ak019, i still think it is won of the best kc has done as far as eye appeal is concerned. It is such a favorite of mine tha t i even bought an extra one which is something i normaly do not do.
 
I'm with Hawkeye. I, too, love the Panzer III, AK019. I buy only one type of AFV because of the expense, but my wife bought me a duplicate Panzer III for Christmas by mistake. Couldn't be a better mistake. People love the Tiger tank, but imo, the Panzer III is a beautiful design with nice lines. I'll probably get the new one too.
 

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I heard AK50 is fast being sold out in hong kong.

I got one myself today... and I fitted the old Panzer III turret into the new version's hull.

I love the old Panzer III (AK19)'s turret for the guy sticking out from the side door.

I also love the new tank commander and 'upscaled' hull of the tank. Also the tracks are much more realistic (I think K&C told a lie considering their old solid tracks as a 'style.'

Surprisingly, the painted color of the two versions exactly matched.

Now, since the base of the new turret (AK50) is too big and doesn't fit into the old (AK19) hull, I will have to figure a way to display it (maybe I'll do some mods to make it look damaged by the 8th army)
 
I heard AK50 is fast being sold out in hong kong.

I got one myself today... and I fitted the old Panzer III turret into the new version's hull.

I love the old Panzer III (AK19)'s turret for the guy sticking out from the side door.

I also love the new tank commander and 'upscaled' hull of the tank. Also the tracks are much more realistic (I think K&C told a lie considering their old solid tracks as a 'style.'

Surprisingly, the painted color of the two versions exactly matched.

Now, since the base of the new turret (AK50) is too big and doesn't fit into the old (AK19) hull, I will have to figure a way to display it (maybe I'll do some mods to make it look damaged by the 8th army)

Are you going to display the AK019 turret on the new AK050 hull to make the "best" Panzer III and then somehow use the AK050 turret on the old AK019 hull? Be neat to see a photo.

Terry
 
AK19 turret is superior to the new AK50 turret in all respects....the tracks on the newer model is "far better" than the older model......Its's too bad that the new turret does not fit into the old AK19 so that they could be interchanged....Also the figures on the AK19 are better IMO.......Does anyone think we will see the PanzerIII in Grey.....If so I would like to see the turret improved with 2 figures (instead of one) and the draped Nazi flag on the rear of the tank turret.....It would be a much better piece than the current AK50, which to me seems a little bland......Again the tracks on this model is excellent......
 
AK19 turret is superior to the new AK50 turret in all respects....the tracks on the newer model is "far better" than the older model......Its's too bad that the new turret does not fit into the old AK19 so that they could be interchanged....Also the figures on the AK19 are better IMO.......Does anyone think we will see the PanzerIII in Grey.....If so I would like to see the turret improved with 2 figures (instead of one) and the draped Nazi flag on the rear of the tank turret.....It would be a much better piece than the current AK50, which to me seems a little bland......Again the tracks on this model is excellent......

We are bound to see a grey Panzer III - the question is when?

Terry
 
I have the new Panzer III coming. I didnt get the older one so this Im sure I will be happy with.
 
We will see a panzer gray version real soon, I have one on the way and it will hit the paint booth.
 

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