Looking for ideas to make Pearl Harbor Diorama? (1 Viewer)

[Normandy1944]

Hey guys I'm looking for ideas to make A Pearl Harbor Diorama!
Found this set on eBay but can this along with KC?
hope KC comes with a few more sets for Pearl Harbor, I'll buy the P40 Tomahawk!




Harrie

 

[ivanmoe]

Hey guys I'm looking for ideas to make A Pearl Harbor Diorama!
Found this set on eBay but can this along with KC?
hope KC comes with a few more sets for Pearl Harbor, I'll buy the P40 Tomahawk!

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Harrie

Harrie,

Here's a pic of the Haleiwa airstrip before it was improved in 1942:

In the way of personnel and such, it was manned by USAAC. That would translate into guards and ground-crew. There were no facilities except for tents and possibly a latrine. Communication was by telephone. I don't believe that there was any AA present as no aircraft were formally based there at the time. Vehicle wise, a "late model Ford or Chevy" would be a nice touch as transportation for George Welch and Kenneth Taylor (as they didn't reside at the strip). Haleiwa wasn't attacked on Dec. 7.

-Moe

 

[theBaron]

Harrie,

Here's a pic of the Haleiwa airstrip before it was improved in 1942:

In the way of personnel and such, it was manned by USAAC. That would translate into guards and ground-crew. There were no facilities except for tents and possibly a latrine. Communication was by telephone. I don't believe that there was any AA present as no aircraft were formally based there at the time. Vehicle wise, a "late model Ford or Chevy" would be a nice touch as transportation for George Welch and Kenneth Taylor (as they didn't reside at the strip). Haleiwa wasn't attacked on Dec. 7.

-Moe

I believe you're correct, Moe. It was basically an auxiliary or even emergency field at that time. The Japanese apparently didn't know it existed. Welch's and Taylor's aircraft were sent there as part of dispersing the squadron, if I recall, on the CO's orders. I recall reading that somewhere, maybe in one of Prange's books.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Larry Allen]

Hello Harrie,
I believe the the diorama will be dictated by what sets become (or are) available to you.

:rolleyes2: You can make a diorama about Pearl Harbor (P.H.) and show a peaceful and relaxed setting, any time before Dec 7th at 7:00 AM Sunday morning

:redface2: You can show the chaos, destruction and death over the next three hours

^&confuse Or you can show the Phoenix rising out of the ashes, so to speak

I really don't have a clue if the P40 Tomahawk was a "one-off plane" and no further P.H. sets will be on the design slate.
With the Japanese carrier based Zeros and the tie in to P.H. it (might be) possible the K&C is testing the waters to see any interest.

As I mentioned below, this is a truly UNTOUCHED area by any manufacturer in any depth.

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As far as the Figarti figures go, I am NOT a collector that really worries about the EXACT compatibility of different sets. I believe that given just a little amount of creativity they can be made to fit with others. They look really nice!

Here is hoping that ANDY and K&C have some ideas running around there Hong Kong office.

--- LaRRy

 

[villagehorse]

I remembering when Andy was looking at my carrier in March, he said he was doing another Zero to which I replied it will fit nicely in front of the other four on the deck. Robin.

 

[Bill Moore]

just thought I would share the following. My step fathers one day of combat was 7 DEC 41. He was swimming in a swimming pool at the new Rec Ctr on Ford Island when the Japanese attacked that morning. He took a piece of shrapnel in his arm,grabbed a pair of pants 5 sizes to big, and later went thru OCS and was "Fuel Corridinator for the 14th Naval District the balance of the war. My Mom married him when I was 7 1/2 and I learned about unclassified tid bits on this subject that prompted me to start talking and lecturing about the attack at age 16 in H.S. and later in college at Oregon State College. My interest on this subject eventually led me to spend 41 years so far, in the toy soldier industry ,Specializing in WW 11. I have been a K&C dealer for almost 17 years. Feel free to pick my brain on this subject via private messages if you are inclined to do so.

 

[theBaron]

If you wanted to put these sailors on the dock or on the deck, you'll need to do something about the bases. I can see them on the dockside at Drydock No. 1, where the Pennsylvania was berthed, and they're firing at low-flying planes. Or they could be on the deck of a ship. But in either case, the grass bases need to be modified or hidden.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Larry Allen]

If you wanted to put these sailors on the dock or on the deck, you'll need to do something about the bases. I can see them on the dockside at Drydock No. 1, where the Pennsylvania was berthed, and they're firing at low-flying planes. Or they could be on the deck of a ship. But in either case, the grass bases need to be modified or hidden.

Prost!
Brad

Probably just spread some debris around the bases .... I suspect there was plenty around at that moment. {sm2}
--- LaRRy

 

[Normandy1944]

Thanks guys for the great ideas. I'm going to make a plan and look at figures that fit into the diorama with the P40.

I have a jungle airfield, with he F4U Corsair.









Harrie

 

[katana]

The P40 was called the Warhawk in US service and the Tomahawk in British service. The P40 was an interesting aircraft as it was derived from the P35; which had a radial engine that was changed to a 12 cylinder water cooled engine in the P40. The airframes were almost identical. The same engine change was made in the FW190 to improve high altitude performance.

Two obsolete P35s were flown during the attack on Dec 7 1941, as most of the P40s were destroyed on the ground. I think the pilots were awarded DFCs for actions above and beyond the call of duty.

 

[ivanmoe]

"A certain manufacturer" makes a 5 inch, 51 caliber replica like the one below that was salvaged from the Arizona:

On Arizona, the guns were mounted in simple casemates as modeled below:

A small portion of the deck that includes the casemate might make for a nifty diorama with a few accompanying figures. I'd think that the casemate and deck could made out of cardboard, paper and plastic scrap. The hard part, the figures and weapon, already exist, although the bases would have to be altered (as previously mentioned).

-Moe

 

[katana]

The aforementioned gun manufacturer also make a nice gun crew to go with it. The 5 inch rifle was also used as a coastal defence gun. A Japanese Destroyer was sunk off of Wake Island with one.

 

[spartan71]

that s an impressive piece Moe, I hope that you will keep sharing with the pics. Most of us can only dream off what you have, and are doing..

 

[King & Country]

Hey guys I'm looking for ideas to make A Pearl Harbor Diorama!
Found this set on eBay but can this along with KC?
hope KC comes with a few more sets for Pearl Harbor, I'll buy the P40 Tomahawk!

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Harrie

Hi Harrie,
You might also consider some of our K&C previously-released 'Sand Pebbles' US Marines and Sailors...
Just thought...Best wishes, Andy.

 

[King & Country]

Hey guys I'm looking for ideas to make A Pearl Harbor Diorama!
Found this set on eBay but can this along with KC?
hope KC comes with a few more sets for Pearl Harbor, I'll buy the P40 Tomahawk!

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Harrie

Hi Harrie,
You might also consider some of our K&C previously-released 'Sand Pebbles' US Marines and Sailors...
Just a thought...Best wishes, Andy.

 

[joesgis]

Hey guys I'm looking for ideas to make A Pearl Harbor Diorama!
Found this set on eBay but can this along with KC?
hope KC comes with a few more sets for Pearl Harbor, I'll buy the P40 Tomahawk!

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Harrie

Hi Harrie,
i have this set and it is compatible with k & c. The figarti figures just aren't quite as robust and have smaller scaled weapons. I can take some photos if you like.
Joe

 

[theBaron]

The P40 was called the Warhawk in US service and the Tomahawk in British service. The P40 was an interesting aircraft as it was derived from the P35; which had a radial engine that was changed to a 12 cylinder water cooled engine in the P40. The airframes were almost identical. The same engine change was made in the FW190 to improve high altitude performance.

Two obsolete P35s were flown during the attack on Dec 7 1941, as most of the P40s were destroyed on the ground. I think the pilots were awarded DFCs for actions above and beyond the call of duty.

Derived from the P-36, I think you meant. As part of further development of their Model 75 Hawk, which was powered with a P&W Twin Wasp radial engine, Curtiss experimented with an inline Allison engine, and this became a prototype for the model that the AAF adopted as the P-40. It's interesting to note that in developing the P-40, one design had the radiator cooler scoop placed back toward the trailing edge of the wing, under the cockpit. It had the potential for reducing drag. But it was decided to leave the scoop under the nose. The other design is what North American choose when faced with the same engineering question, in developing the Mustang.

You're correct, there were a couple of P-36s that got aloft, as well as P-40s (eg, Taylor and Welch).

Also, in British service, the dash-B was known as the Tomahawk, but when the Brits got the dash-E, they named it the Kittyhawk.

The P-35 was a short-run fighter developed and built by Seversky (later renamed to Republic), which was the grandfather of the P-47. It was obsolete even before the war broke out in Europe, but some were on duty in the Philippines and saw combat during the Japanese invasion in December 1941.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Normandy1944]

Hi Harrie,
You might also consider some of our K&C previously-released 'Sand Pebbles' US Marines and Sailors...
Just thought...Best wishes, Andy.

Thanks Andy
Yes I do


Harrie

 

[Larry Allen]

Hi Harrie,
You might also consider some of our K&C previously-released 'Sand Pebbles' US Marines and Sailors...
Just a thought...Best wishes, Andy.

That is a wonderful idea, Andy ..... except for the fact {sm2} that the 3rd party sellers tend to charge two ARMS and two LEGS with a few pints of blood thrown in for these really fantastic sets.

Maybe a re-release of the Sailors and US Marines... might be in the future ????? :rolleyes2:

--- LaRRY