Loss of a Member (1 Viewer)

[jazzeum]

All the arguing/discussing, vitriol, what have you, has resulted in the loss of a member, Sammy. Please see http://www.treefrogtreasures.com/forum/showthread.php?38166-time-to-move-on-(for-awhile).

I wonder how many others may have left, silently, without announcement.

Perhaps Shannon and Pete are right and we are wrong. I don't think the post count is the right approach but maybe it's the only option available short of expelling members.

Brad

 

[Rob]

All the arguing/discussing, vitriol, what have you, has resulted in the loss of a member, Sammy. Please see http://www.treefrogtreasures.com/forum/showthread.php?38166-time-to-move-on-(for-awhile).

I wonder how many others may have left, silently, without announcement.

Perhaps Shannon and Pete are right and we are wrong. I don't think the post count is the right approach but maybe it's the only option available short of expelling members.

Brad

I think an issue behind all this Brad is that long before the new policy was announced we have lost several members who simply can no longer stand the atmosphere around here. These are good people, long standing members and those who have contributed a great deal over the years and helped build up the forum when it started. I hope the new policy will work out and maybe stop some of the tedious bickering that goes on here far too often.

Rob

 

[lancer]

I am sorry that the forum is losing membership due to the petty arguments that take place. I think everyone finds the arguments to be a real detriment to the enjoyment this forum brings to us (except, of course, those that are doing the arguing). I still don't see how a post restriction is going to stop the bickering. As many have pointed out, an individual bent on fighting need only post once to get things going and then stands back and watchs the results. Far better to target the troublemaker than all the innocent. It is sad that the 'meanness' of a few individuals has resulted in this new policy but I guess we will all adjust. -- Al

 

[jazzeum]

Al,

I, too, don't think that the posting policy will achieve what it's intended to do but it's better to try something than stand still and do nothing. This may be also be a warning to some that if they don't curb their tendencies harsher penalties will be next.

Brad

 

[Phantom Warrior]

I've been told that there have been lots of complaints against the several people who have a high post count. I to do not see how a post limit will stop bickering. The only effect may be to reduce the complaints about people posting too much??

Terry

 

[Rob]

I've been told that there have been lots of complaints against the several people who have a high post count. I to do not see how a post limit will stop bickering. The only effect may be to reduce the complaints about people posting too much??

Terry

Well those who complained about me will be pleased to know I will be posting less. I must confess to reacting rather selfishly when I heard about this new policy and only being concerned how it affected me. Upon reflection this is indeed a selfish attitude and I've decided upon some adjustments. A friend of mine wrote the other day and pointed me to a thread at the start of this month and in as nice way as possible pointed out it was a bit irritating. Upon studying it I was honestly shocked{eek3}, I'd answered post after post for pages and pages, I was genuinely excited about the products under discussion but to answer so many posts for so long was dominating the thread far far too much.

On top of this my wife wants me to post less and I will also be doing a lot more volunteering work over the coming months so should be busy all round . But don't run away with the idea there won't be Dispatches, dio's and threads celebrating my favourite product.....because there most certainly will be :wink2:

Streamlining my posting is the way to go:smile2:

Rob

 

[The Military Workshop]

All the arguing/discussing, vitriol, what have you, has resulted in the loss of a member, Sammy. Please see http://www.treefrogtreasures.com/forum/showthread.php?38166-time-to-move-on-(for-awhile).

I wonder how many others may have left, silently, without announcement.

Perhaps Shannon and Pete are right and we are wrong. I don't think the post count is the right approach but maybe it's the only option available short of expelling members.

Brad

In my experience on this forum those who have announced their departure by starting a thread are likely to return and some much quicker than I thought would be the case. I am not having a go at Sammy here as I think he is one of the good guys and I hope he returns in the future.

My concern is for those mentioned by Brad who have left silently without announcement. In addition there are those who are still members but who now rarely participate in discussions.

It would appear from a number of posts that there have been numerous comments made to TF/Mods about certain members recently. Obviously the Mods / TF know who those are who are most complained about and can form their own opinion as to whether such comments are justified. Hopefully some of those who have been
the subject of multiple reports/complaints have been advised accordingly by TF/Mods and will hopefully take heed of such comments.

Regards
Brett

 

[Larry Allen]

Afternoon all;

Compared to most of you fine gents, I am still a relative Newbie. I just made Sergeant. <clap of hands> <bowing> <cheers> Thank You!

However, I for one, cannot see me leaving THE FORUM over the difference of opinion that (only a few) members have, or the changing of the rules and regulations.

I look forward to seeing what others think about the hobby and their marvelous creations. I have made friends with gents all around the world. They have taught me a strange new language (Australian) and I have been able to travel to far away TS shows without leaving my computer.(Thank you Howard)

I have been introduced to many different types of collections as there are collectors. I have been shown many valuable hints and tips by dozens of very unselfish guys who are only too eager to help a beginner. (Thanks Mr. M. Miller)
There have been silly threads and serious threads; there have been sad threads (Sammy leaving) and happy one (a new Member coming on-board).
Because of the TS hobby (and forum) I have had the unforgettable experience of touring the Gettysburg battle field and was rescued by another member (Thanks George G.)

To Andy and Tom and Richard and all the manufactures as well as the distributors (Treefrog, Crown, Hobby Bunker, KingsX) and 100’s more … this is important stuff. But guy, to us this is a “”H-O-B-B-Y””.

So, I am pleased to have met so many of you and look forward to the new dios, the TS appraisals, the historical facts, the lingo, the chats and new folks.

I expect to be here and buying soldiers until God (or my wife) says enough.

Thanks to all and enjoy my friends!!! -- Larry

 

[theBaron]

Well put, Larry, I agree.

Prost!
Brad

 

[colmanor]

As a silent member, who rarely posts but who follows many of the threads with great interest, I believe that first and foremost, we should all consider ourselves to be friends and colleagues who have a shared interest and enthusiasm for history and collecting and who will readily commit to exchanging views and ideas in an open but always courteous manner.

I admire those who hold strong views and express them well but that old-fashioned idea of courtesy and respect for one another is the only way to ensure a civilized and productive forum for all of us. I think we also owe this to those like Peter and Shannon who have provided us with such a magnificent resource. I hope that members will continue to join rather than leave, and that by our actions we will make the forum a place where all can feel welcome (even those like myself who only read the work of others!).

As another writer has put it earlier, this is a place where I and many others have found great support, advice and enjoyment. Let's keep it that way.

Best regards to all.
Colman

 

[Partner]

Well put Larry , I think you have summed up the benefits of being a forum member and what most of us doing here .

Remember Toy Soldier Collecting is NOT a matter of life and death . (It's much more important than that !





Regards
Kirk

 

[Firebat]

I have spoke of various problems Nick and I have had behind the scenes and in public here.....But some how when we got frustrated and vented, we were dismissed as being crazy or delusional. We are seen as renegades, because we tell it like it is, well now that an apparently beloved member has exited ( And I think several others also have unannounced ) maybe you will understand we are not so crazy.

But there is an answer, as many have suggested, you have to have thick skin or don't participate in the passionate topics. I dont pay attention to the hot topics any more, I just build my dioramas and push for better products when there is a opportunity. Alex

 

[OzDigger]

I don't know why Sammy has gone again but I hope he comes back soon. Colmanor is correct in that we should show more courtesy and respect for one another, but Alex is also correct in that a thick skin may be required in certain threads. This forum, like the world in general, is made of people from a variety of cultures and all kinds of personalities. Different members have different expectations of their forum experience but each will need to make a compromise as with anything in life.

That said, I think the main problem is that a lot of members see posts, be they serious comments or jerk one-liners, as being yet more proof of some conspiracy/agenda by some individual(s).

The following are some 'agendas' I have seen alluded to over the years: Rivet Counters, K & C v First Legion, Anti-British, Anti-American, Anti-Australian, Anti-Asian, Anti-Semetic, Anti-Andy, Rah Rahs, Pro-Nazis, Thread Hogs, etc. You name it there's apparently a label to cover any agenda or conspiracy theory you want. But consider this, if you look for the worst in someone you will always find it, why not just give each other a break and enjoy the forum without all the judgement and labeling.

 

[Firebat]

I don't know why Sammy has gone again but I hope he comes back soon. Colmanor is correct in that we should show more courtesy and respect for one another, but Alex is also correct in that a thick skin may be required in certain threads. This forum, like the world in general, is made of people from a variety of cultures and all kinds of personalities. Different members have different expectations of their forum experience but each will need to make a compromise as with anything in life.

That said, I think the main problem is that a lot of members see posts, be they serious comments or jerk one-liners, as being yet more proof of some conspiracy/agenda by some individual(s).

The following are some 'agendas' I have seen alluded to over the years: Rivet Counters, K & C v First Legion, Anti-British, Anti-American, Anti-Australian, Anti-Asian, Anti-Semetic, Anti-Andy, Rah Rahs, Pro-Nazis, Thread Hogs, etc. You name it there's apparently a label to cover any agenda or conspiracy theory you want. But consider this, if you look for the worst in someone you will always find it, why not just give each other a break and enjoy the forum without all the judgement and labeling.

OZ

Funny you mention Anti-Austrailan. I got PMed once by an irate Austrailian who stated there were indications that BSP was Anti-Australian. I pointed out to him a post I had written a day or two before stating that BSP got more support from our English and Austrailian friends than those from the US. And I had graciously thanked them for their support.

He got back to me and apologized and said SOMEONE deliberately fed him false information. This is the type of stuff that can go on here. As you also stated a lot has to do with various "Agendas". Many think this is all fun and games, a lot of business is subtly conducted here and a manufacturer or dealer can sink or swim on comments made etc. Alex

 

[Phantom Warrior]

I don't know why Sammy has gone again but I hope he comes back soon. Colmanor is correct in that we should show more courtesy and respect for one another, but Alex is also correct in that a thick skin may be required in certain threads. This forum, like the world in general, is made of people from a variety of cultures and all kinds of personalities. Different members have different expectations of their forum experience but each will need to make a compromise as with anything in life.

That said, I think the main problem is that a lot of members see posts, be they serious comments or jerk one-liners, as being yet more proof of some conspiracy/agenda by some individual(s).

The following are some 'agendas' I have seen alluded to over the years: Rivet Counters, K & C v First Legion, Anti-British, Anti-American, Anti-Australian, Anti-Asian, Anti-Semetic, Anti-Andy, Rah Rahs, Pro-Nazis, Thread Hogs, etc. You name it there's apparently a label to cover any agenda or conspiracy theory you want. But consider this, if you look for the worst in someone you will always find it, why not just give each other a break and enjoy the forum without all the judgement and labeling.

I like your post. People need to lighten up - they are just toys.

Terry