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blaster said:
Hello JB,

Really nice set of thematic knights that you are building up there. I particularly liked Sir John Marny. Just my opinion, but I think tht your pics with the white bkgd are nicer than that unusual purple haze bkgd, or is it my imagination...?:)

Rgds Victor
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Thanks chum. I think that the castings with two figures on the base are really nice - and very interesting to paint too.

Like you, I experiment with things - one of them being how to best photograph them! I tried to use the white background by first gluing a white sheet of paper to some corrugated cardboard backing. You can then slit this, where the corrugations are - which holds the small base of each figure when inserted.

However, the white bounces back light - and causes glare which then hides the detail. So.....................I reverted to a sheet of purple paper. Then - I went back to white - but used an indirect light from my overhead lamp. I only have very basic lighting and a digital camera that I use by experimenting. A photographer - I am definitely NOT!

I will persevere though - and try a bit harder.

Glad you like 'em. :D:Djb
 
Completed another figure today - another of those nice double figures on the same stand. I have grouped the three that came this way in the set together below - on a white background - hopefully, to show the detail a little better.

The central top figure is of Lord Oliver d'Ingham - with his Squire in attendance - probably on his way to a tournee. The others, you have seen before - but all show how cleverly the engraver has brought them together on one stand. Lovely figures - and great fun to paint. jb



 
Here's another pic showing four more Knights under development. The fourth one in from the left is completed - and shows Sir Thomas Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick,KG - and one of the Commanders at Crecy and Poitiers. He is my first knight from a series of 15 that I bought from the same source - as set: "Knights of the Garter"

The others, are still from my other set of 16 figures, and are works in progress, - and from the left are: Sir Harry "Hotspur" Percy; Sir Richard Neville, Earl of Salisbury, KG; and Sir Roger de Trumpington. Neville has a particularly tricky coat of arms - and unusual arrangement of them displayed on the caparison of his horse - so is taking a while to complete. jb

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Two more now added to my previous figures in this range. Top left is Sir Thomas Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick KG - and top right is Sir Richard Neville, Earl of Salisbury KG.

The KG stands for Knight of The Garter, to those who don't know - and my set of 15 will depict some of the earliest recipients of this order, when completed.

I've now reached 13 completed - and have another 6 underway in various stages - and 10 more not yet begun - so plenty of pleasant work left to go yet. jb

Just heard from another Flat manufacturer from Germany, Herr Wolfgang Friedrich - who produces a marvelous range of Knights - depicted at The Battle of Crecy 1346. Been trying for those for some time so hoping to do a deal for some more figures from him soon too. ^&grin

 
johnnybach said:
Two more now added to my previous figures in this range. Top left is Sir Thomas Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick KG - and top right is Sir Richard Neville, Earl of Salisbury KG.

The KG stands for Knight of The Garter, to those who don't know - and my set of 15 will depict some of the earliest recipients of this order, when completed.

I've now reached 13 completed - and have another 6 underway in various stages - and 10 more not yet begun - so plenty of pleasant work left to go yet. jb

Just heard from another Flat manufacturer from Germany, Herr Wolfgang Friedrich - who produces a marvelous range of Knights - depicted at The Battle of Crecy 1346. Been trying for those for some time so hoping to do a deal for some more figures from him soon too. ^&grin

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I continue to be pleasantly surprised by your skill with the intricate detail in so small a scale that you are artistically bringing to life!
Your embracing of the art has been very impressive to me and the beauty of the figures combined with the thorough research just makes this a great project to watch.
Wish you good luck with Herr Friedrich, I know how difficult these things can be.
Great work JB!
Ray
 
nmrocks said:
I continue to be pleasantly surprised by your skill with the intricate detail in so small a scale that you are artistically bringing to life!
Your embracing of the art has been very impressive to me and the beauty of the figures combined with the thorough research just makes this a great project to watch.
Wish you good luck with Herr Friedrich, I know how difficult these things can be.
Great work JB!
Ray
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Well, thanks Ray:D - I must say, that I'm getting quite pleasantly surprised at how much I'm enjoying painting them too. I must also say, that due to your posting plenty of this type of figure elsewhere on the Forum - I'm getting quite a bit of help from looking at the painting/shading from them - so maybe you have been giving me a deal of help from looking at them.:eek:

As to the Crecy figures - I've sent you a PM - which may help. Nothing received, so far - but may have cracked the ordering problem. We shall see.

Here's another pic with another figure added below. I was waiting for the base to dry - which I usually do last of all - after everything else has thoroughly dried out. He is top left - and is Harry "Hotspur" Percy - in a very complicated Coat of Arms to paint - at this size! jb

 
Hi JB,

You continue to bewitch us with your flats. They look excellent in gloss!

Rgds

Victor
 
blaster said:
Hi JB,

You continue to bewitch us with your flats. They look excellent in gloss!

Rgds

Victor
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Cheers Vic - glad you like 'em. I have a couple more with top-coat of varnish just drying - so I'll show them later. I also think the Gloss finish certainly enhances these little figures - even more than I first thought it would.

And not quite so tricky as I first thought they would be. Maybe my "apprenticeship" on their bigger brothers [ Knights of Agincourt] helped me out a bit?:eek: Just over half-way through my 31 figures now - so a bit more work to do yet.{sm2} jb
 
I've put my two latest completed figures either side of my last one. Now, Sir Roger de Trumpington, to the left - and Sir Hugh Courtenay sandwich Hotspur Percy.

 
A few more completed to add on to previous figures:

My first pair are Sir Edmund de Thorpe and Sir John de Grey KG with drawn swords.





Next are Sir hugh Calveley (flag on lance) and Walter Paveley KG.



 
Here's another update on progress - this time, making use of some welcome sunshine coming in to my studio (spare bedroom:D).

This time - it's King Edward III - and to his right - Sir William Longspee - being handed his helm by his squire. [ I have also shown Edward The Black Prince - in the centre of the two completed figures - to show how he is less developed than the other two - as he is as yet, unfinished].

It's useful to look at each figure - to see the accuracy in detail that the engraver has shown - and the equipment being used. Note the longer shield of Sir Will and lack of plate armour and a long hauberk (robe) - so typical of a knight in the earlier 13th Century.



And here below - glinting in the sunshine - are my little jewels - so far. I have now completed 22 out of my original 31 bare metal castings. Shows, I think, how a small Glossy Flat collection of Knights can be quite rapidly amassed - with just a bit of very pleasant work - at very reasonable cost. Please forgive the background piece of cardboard - but I wanted to catch the sunshine, whilst it was there - and it's all I could quickly find. jb;)
 
Thanks Zach - glad you like them. Here' another pic.

I'm trying out various backing colours/materials - and here's the Black Prince again (top left), with his father, King Edward III next to him. I completed him earlier today - and they are now displayed on a piece of Black velvet, inside a box which once held a watch!:D



Which leaves me with just 8 figures left to complete from my original order. I have started them all - by blocking in the main colours and all are at various stages of development - as below. jb.

 
johnnybach said:
Here's another update on progress - this time, making use of some welcome sunshine coming in to my studio (spare bedroom:D).

This time - it's King Edward III - and to his right - Sir William Longspee - being handed his helm by his squire. [ I have also shown Edward The Black Prince - in the centre of the two completed figures - to show how he is less developed than the other two - as he is as yet, unfinished].

It's useful to look at each figure - to see the accuracy in detail that the engraver has shown - and the equipment being used. Note the longer shield of Sir Will and lack of plate armour and a long hauberk (robe) - so typical of a knight in the earlier 13th Century.



And here below - glinting in the sunshine - are my little jewels - so far. I have now completed 22 out of my original 31 bare metal castings. Shows, I think, how a small Glossy Flat collection of Knights can be quite rapidly amassed - with just a bit of very pleasant work - at very reasonable cost. Please forgive the background piece of cardboard - but I wanted to catch the sunshine, whilst it was there - and it's all I could quickly find. jb;)
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Well this is pretty impressive for a "Casual" interest in flats?!!?!?!?
There beautiful JB and your skill at painting these little gems improves with every showing, Well done my Friend! :salute::
Ray
 
Well, cheers Ray - thanks for that. I always did have an interest in Flats - as that's the way this hobby started. However, I didn't have the confidence to start painting them for a very long time. It was your threads about them that really triggered me to actually "have a go" at them - and the only way I began at all - was to simply paint them the same way I had always painted their bigger brothers - in Gloss.

However, you always learn best, I think, by having a go and making mistakes. So..........first thing I learned, was that shading is all important with Flats - to suggest 3-dimensional figures - and that's what I've been concentrating on trying to do with these latest figures. Helps enormously that they are some of my favourite subjects - Medieval Knights - and here's the latest two - just completed.:D

Riding the white caparisoned horse is Sir Miles Stapleton KG - whilst aboard the Gold clad mount - is Sir Jean III de Grailley KG. (love the way he came out!;)).






By the way, Ray - I had a result from Herr Wolfgang Friedrich - and the Battle of Crecy collection. Took delivery of 96 castings from him last week. bit of a tortuous process getting them - as he didn't want to use the paypal method - but I got them in the end.

I'm saving painting them up for later though - as I'm still a "casual" on Flats {sm4} - and have other projects waiting for me to start.

Oh yes, thanks for the other link you gave me for Wilfried - ( who DOES like paypal) - I now also have those Elephants with Romans manning the fort!! Might slip one or two of those in, from time to time!{sm3}

Anyhoo - thanks for the vote of confidence - I too think I'm improving a bit over some of my earlier attempts - and am pleased you like these latest ones. :D jb
 
Nearly there now - just four more to show, for now - and I'm currently painting the last of my 31 figures from Zinnfiguren Schmalkalden.

Below find two pics showing both sides of, (from left to right in first pic);

Sir Sanchez D'Abrichecourt
Sir John de Lisle
Sir Niel Loring
Sir William Montacute

All the above were original medieval Knights of the Garter, of course - which was purely in the Monarch's gift to bestow - as it is to this day.





My last figure, by the way is Sir John Chandos - who should be completed by the end of today. I will show both separate sets at that point - and then I'm looking forward to showing all 31 completed on one background!:D

See you later? jb
 
Okay - all completed - here we go with some pics of each set.

First two pics are of Set called FF. There are 15 figures in this set - which Zinnfiguren Schmalkalder named "Knights of the Garter. I have placed them in three rows - in number order - as follows (left to right). Some figures have many titles - such as Earl, Lord, Baron etc - but I'm keeping it simple for now with just names. All of these were in the list of the very first Knights to bear this title, which was in the personal gift of the Monarch - as indeed it still is today.

FF01 Sir Thomas Beauchamp.
FF02 Edward III, King of England
FF03 Sir Edmund de Thorpe
FF05 Sir Jean III de Grailley
FF06 Edward of Woodstock "The Black Prince"
FF07 Sir John Chandos
FF08Sir Sanchez D'Abrechecourt
FF09Sir Walter Paveley
FF10 Sir Miles Stapleton
FF11 Sir John de Grey
FF12 Sir Hugh Calveley
FF13 Sir William montacute
FF14 Sir John de Lisle
FF15 Sir Hugh Courtenay
FF20 Sir Niel Loring

All shown - both sides below.





I will do the other group of 16 figures - in the following post. jb
 
Next group of completed figures number 16 - and were called "Famous knights of England" by the makers ( okay - as a Welshman - I'm pretty used to that error being made^&grin^&grin).

This set was given the tag RM - and are set out in the same way as the previous set - as below. Again, titles are mostly omitted - just names used.

RM01 Prince John Plantaganet of Eltham
RM02Sir Edmund Crouchback
RM03 Sir Roger Trumpington
RM04 Sir Robert de Septvans
RM05 Sir John de Warenne
RM06 Sir Humphrey de Bohun
RM07 Sir Richard Neville
RM08 Sir Ralph de Monthermer
RM09 Sir Simon de Felbrigg
RM10 Sir Harry "Hotspur" Percy
RM11 Sir William Wallace
RM12 Sir John Peche
RM13 Sir John Marny
RM14 Sir Oliver d'Ingham
RM15 Sir William Longespee
RM16 Sir John Fitzalan

Both sides - same numerical order.





And that's all for now - I'm looking for a larger backdrop - to show the lot - next time! :salute:::salute::jb
 
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