Murat Historex (1 Viewer)

[blaster]

Hi All,

I made this figure many years ago assembled from a Historex kit. It depicts Murat in 1805. I will be restoring this piece by transferring it to a smaller base and repainting.

Rgds Victor

 

[Obee]

Hi Victor,

I haven't counted how many Murats I have in my collection, but I recently painted this one, and he looks like that same uniform as yours:

He was painted in gloss finish for a local collector who bought him off a Russian eBay site, so who knows who made him ???

John

 

[johnnybach]

Hi again Vic.

The Starlux Metal version of Marshall Murat is quite nice too. I picked up this one a few years ago to repair and repaint. I was lucky enough to be able to find an online version of the old catalogue which showed an illustration of him on the front cover - thanks to a lead from a mutual friend :salute:: - so copied his rather splendid uniform that he was originally painted in from that. Again - Glossy Toy Soldier style - but a very nice figure - and a lucky find for me.

Murat is talking to another of his Officers in this pic.

Nice to see different versions - don't you think?? jb

 

[blaster]

Hello Johnnies again,

This is going to be a Murat mutual admiration society thread shaping up....

I enjoy all the costumes that Murat wore, sartorially elegant or challenged. That's Captain Manhes he's talking to.

I also like some of the Russian figures. However, they tend to be about 60-65mm, slightly larger than the standard Historex.

In my Historex instructions, two colour schemes were given for this kit - green-red or all red. Interestingly, the busby fur was to be painted brown but Obee has painted his black, as per the original Gerard painting. I have wrapped a tricolour sash around his abdomen, same as Obee did for his.

I have removed my figure from the base. I noticed that my original Historex figure has a tiny waist. Being me (?), I decided to bulk out the waist a little. So I removed his arms to do this.

Rgds Victor

 

[johnnybach]

Just for further interest Vic, Here's a pic of the front cover of the "Starlux" range, that was produced in metal. This shows him top row - right, in his red and gold uniform that they chose to portray him in for their version.

This metal range was produced by a later company (Atlas Edition) - who bought the rights to use the old ( sometimes slightly adapted) moulds for figures which were originally produced in plastic by Starlux. They can often be found nowadays, at very reasonable prices too - which is good news!

Originally sold by subscription, they are still relatively easy to find in several European countries - and the Internet, of course, where I found many of my own collection, to repair and repaint. There is also a Mounted range of figures - by the same company - again of old plastic Starlux figures - re-cast again in metal. jb

 

[Hazebrouck]

Lots of Murats

A question about that sash. The Caron d'Hevilley figure I painted recently had a tri-colour brassard indicating that he was Aide de campe to a general in chief. Does it follow that the sash means Murat was the general in chief? Were these only worn during a battle?

Scott

 

[Obee]

Lots of Murats

A question about that sash. The Caron d'Hevilley figure I painted recently had a tri-colour brassard indicating that he was Aide de campe to a general in chief. Does it follow that the sash means Murat was the general in chief? Were these only worn during a battle?

Scott

Scott,

the brassard means an ADC, but Murat doesn't wear one, being a Marshal.

The sash is part of the general officer uniform denoting rank and the tricolour used in Revolutionary period and early Empire.

See the figure on the right of Napoleon

and another

and another

and the figure on the left

I hope that helps,

John

 

[blaster]

Just for further interest Vic, Here's a pic of the front cover of the "Starlux" range, that was produced in metal. This shows him top row - right, in his red and gold uniform that they chose to portray him in for their version.

This metal range was produced by a later company (Atlas Edition) - who bought the rights to use the old ( sometimes slightly adapted) moulds for figures which were originally produced in plastic by Starlux. They can often be found nowadays, at very reasonable prices too - which is good news!

Originally sold by subscription, they are still relatively easy to find in several European countries - and the Internet, of course, where I found many of my own collection, to repair and repaint. There is also a Mounted range of figures - by the same company - again of old plastic Starlux figures - re-cast again in metal. jb

Hi JB,

Fascinating. I didn't realise that white lead castings could be made from original Starlux moulds (presumably steel). It looks like it can be done.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_mold_casting
http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?90886-Steel-Mold-for-Lead

And then I came across this website! Just look at some of these goodies!!
https://translate.google.com.sg/tra...ture.com/Atlas%20%20Figurines.htm&prev=search


I now await my impending promotion on this forum as a herald for toy soldier supplies...

Rgds Victor

 

[blaster]

I remade part of the sword belt around the waist and then reattached both arms. The figure was then attached to a new smaller base before I start to repaint it.

 

[johnnybach]

Just for further interest Vic, Here's a pic of the front cover of the "Starlux" range, that was produced in metal. This shows him top row - right, in his red and gold uniform that they chose to portray him in for their version.

This metal range was produced by a later company (Atlas Edition) - who bought the rights to use the old ( sometimes slightly adapted) moulds for figures which were originally produced in plastic by Starlux. They can often be found nowadays, at very reasonable prices too - which is good news!

Originally sold by subscription, they are still relatively easy to find in several European countries - and the Internet, of course, where I found many of my own collection, to repair and repaint. There is also a Mounted range of figures - by the same company - again of old plastic Starlux figures - re-cast again in metal. jb

Hi JB,

Fascinating. I didn't realise that white lead castings could be made from original Starlux moulds (presumably steel). It looks like it can be done.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_mold_casting
http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?90886-Steel-Mold-for-Lead

And then I came across this website! Just look at some of these goodies!!
https://translate.google.com.sg/tra...ture.com/Atlas%20%20Figurines.htm&prev=search


I now await my impending promotion on this forum as a herald for toy soldier supplies...

Rgds Victor

Yup - them's the boys, Vic. Quite nice sets eh? - which as mentioned, can often still be found at reasonable prices around Europe's flea markets - and frequently via Internet sites too ( e-bay, etc), at reasonable prices - though (as usual) SOME sellers appear to think they have found the Holy Grail!!!

The mounted figures, by the way, are separate figures and therefore de-mountable. However, if bought as second-hand examples - can frequently come with a different mount to that originally supplied - as many will fit other horses in the range.

I don't know the details of precisely HOW the re-casting was done by Atlas - but I do have quite a few of both metal sets safely repaired and/or repainted in my collection - and they are really good solid pieces and great fun to restore.

Maybe keep an eye out for some??? Good luck with the promotion - however - don't hold your breath!:salute:: jb

 

[blaster]

Hi JB,

No promotion? I'm devastated. Now I can't sleep knights...

Imagine if Historex or even Airfix Collector Series kits were ever produced in metal.

Rgds Vic

 

[blaster]

Starting to paint the trousers.

 

[kilted vampire]

I am going to look and see if I have any.....{sm3}

 

[blaster]

I did a minor improvement on the upper right arm and made further progress on the painting.

 

[Obee]

Looking good !!!!!!

John

 

[Mirof]

Murat illustrated by Rigo

 

[blaster]

Hello Mirof and John,

Thanks for dropping by! I have the RIGO plates, downloaded from Armchair General.

Here's more progress on the painting. Gilt decoration done with yellow ochre and white.

 

[blaster]

S-low progress on the embroidery. Just too many projects right now. So many figures and so little time....