Myra Hindley's Parachute Rgt father (1 Viewer)

[larso]

Brady, the notorious Moors murderer made the news again the other day. Of course they ran that infamous portrait (or mug-shot?) of his co-accused Myra Hindley along with it. It did make me curious about her though and I found the following on Wiki, though it is elsewhere as well and so seems to be true.

Hindley's father had fought in North Africa, Cyprus, and Italy during the Second World War, and had served with the Parachute Regiment. He had been known in the army as a "hard man" and he expected his daughter to be equally tough; he taught her how to fight, and insisted that she "stick up for herself". When Hindley was aged 8, a local boy approached her in the street and scratched both of her cheeks with his fingernails, drawing blood. She burst into tears and ran into her parents' house, to be met by her father, who demanded that she "Go and punch him [the boy], because if you don't I'll leather you!" Hindley found the boy and succeeded in knocking him down with a sequence of punches, as her father had taught her. As she wrote later, "at eight years old I'd scored my first victory". Malcolm MacCulloch, professor of forensic psychiatry at Cardiff University, has suggested that the fight, and the part that Hindley's father played in it, may be "key pieces of evidence" in trying to understand Hindley's role in the Moors murders: "The relationship with her father brutalised her .... She was not only used to violence in the home but rewarded for it outside. When this happens at a young age it can distort a person's reaction to such situations for life"

In my mind, she made her own choices in the end but it seems she was exposed to what we would call PTSD now. Her father's story is a reminder of what war can do to people and the damage that can flow on to others.

 

[Mitch]

Many many people have very hard upbringings and face severe trauma in all sorts of negative situations but, don't turn out to be thieves, murderes and the like. we like (or psychologists and the like do) to attach labels to excuse or try understand what people do and thats fine and helpful to a point. However, we seem unable to acknowledge that some people are just down right nasty and thats the only explanation forthcoming.

Its one thing to have a terrible upbringing but, how does that explain her reluctance to inform authorities where the bodies are to allow families closure. She has manipulated the system for a number of years and every now and then we get some emergence of stories about how she wants to do this or that and, that it was Brady who almost hypnotised her into participating.

Sadly, they missed the rope the many thousands of pounds spent on them would have been spent better on other things
Mitch

 

[Rob]

Brady, the notorious Moors murderer made the news again the other day. Of course they ran that infamous portrait (or mug-shot?) of his co-accused Myra Hindley along with it. It did make me curious about her though and I found the following on Wiki, though it is elsewhere as well and so seems to be true.

Hindley's father had fought in North Africa, Cyprus, and Italy during the Second World War, and had served with the Parachute Regiment. He had been known in the army as a "hard man" and he expected his daughter to be equally tough; he taught her how to fight, and insisted that she "stick up for herself". When Hindley was aged 8, a local boy approached her in the street and scratched both of her cheeks with his fingernails, drawing blood. She burst into tears and ran into her parents' house, to be met by her father, who demanded that she "Go and punch him [the boy], because if you don't I'll leather you!" Hindley found the boy and succeeded in knocking him down with a sequence of punches, as her father had taught her. As she wrote later, "at eight years old I'd scored my first victory". Malcolm MacCulloch, professor of forensic psychiatry at Cardiff University, has suggested that the fight, and the part that Hindley's father played in it, may be "key pieces of evidence" in trying to understand Hindley's role in the Moors murders: "The relationship with her father brutalised her .... She was not only used to violence in the home but rewarded for it outside. When this happens at a young age it can distort a person's reaction to such situations for life"

In my mind, she made her own choices in the end but it seems she was exposed to what we would call PTSD now. Her father's story is a reminder of what war can do to people and the damage that can flow on to others.

This could be a very explosive subject indeed, this woman was quite simply the most loathed woman in this country. If she did indeed suffer a violent childhood that can indeed twist the mind and cause great problems throughout life, and one can only feel sympathy for that. However, the horrific manner of the murders I'm afraid put her way beyond any sympathy in the public eye. They could hardly believe a woman could be involved in child murders let alone such with horrible violence and without mercy for young children. Many believe its a miracle she lived as long as she did. As for Brady, I'm afraid if I told you what I think of him in the correct terminology Shannon would have no choice but to ban me from here. Just the other day the mother of the only still missing victim passed away without ever seeing her boy get a decent burial, she did I understand beg Brady to help her to lay her son to rest and try and move on, but it didn't happen.

He has apparently suffered so much in Prison he is desperate to die. I hope they make him live every single second of his natural life in there.



Rob

 

[Jack]

I am never keen to use a term like 'evil' to describe someone but there is little option in this case. Pure evil.
I was always surprised to hear some prominent and intelligent (??) people speak in favour of releasing her as though she was a victim of an uncaring society. Takes all kinds I suppose.

 

[larso]

"He has apparently suffered so much in Prison he is desperate to die. I hope they make him live every single second of his natural life in there."

My reading indicated he is basically in a very high security place for the criminally insane. He asks for transfers to other prisons where he apparently would be allowed to die - but keeps getting knocked back. The people resonsible for that are doing a first rate job in my opinion.

Myra also had a religious phase in her mid teens and even took a Baptism name (I don't think I've said that right?). So she certainly knew good from evil. She chose evil and deserved every day of imprisonment she served. The people who abolished the death penalty must've felt a bit sick when the crimes of these two were revealed shortly after....

 

[larso]

Actually back to the father, I think the Para battalions in that theatre were 1, 2 & 3? I wonder why he didn't serve in Normandy/Holland?

 

[Jack]

Myra also had a religious phase in her mid teens and even took a Baptism name (I don't think I've said that right?). So she certainly knew good from evil. She chose evil and deserved every day of imprisonment she served. The people who abolished the death penalty must've felt a bit sick when the crimes of these two were revealed shortly after....[/QUOTE]

There is an argument that it is pyschologically impossible for a person to commit an act that they recognise as evil. Though they may recognise it as illegal or shameful, they justify it to themselves in some manner.

I do not wish to start a discussion about the rights and wrongs of capital punishment, but I read an article about an American executioner who kept articles related to the people he executed. The journalist made the connection that serial killers do the same thing!